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    • Xiander
      Xiander Banned last edited by

      i'm not gonna lie i'm a little worried about corona

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      • provels
        provels last edited by

        Everybody dies, but I'd just as soon not die poor.

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        • provels
          provels last edited by

          Not the popular thread! LOL

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          • kiokoman
            kiokoman LAYER 8 last edited by kiokoman

            I live in Italy and I am in quarantine 🤔
            I'm already beyond the worry

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            • provels
              provels @kiokoman last edited by

              @kiokoman So sorry, to hear. I know it's bad. In Midwest USA, fancy free. For today anyway. Hoping the food supply chain doesn't break down. Bars/restaurants/schools closed, most other stores open more or less. Waiting for the Internet to collapse from homeworkers.

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              • kiokoman
                kiokoman LAYER 8 last edited by kiokoman

                we don't have any food problem for now but .. well numbers here are bad.. 26.000 infected, 2000 under icu and 2.500 already dead, they are big numbers in time of peace. we are also lucky that we have public health care

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                • provels
                  provels @kiokoman last edited by

                  @kiokoman Fingers X'd.

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                  • provels
                    provels @kiokoman last edited by provels

                    @kiokoman "Hello from Italy." Is this what I'm looking forward to?
                    https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/03/17/hello-italy-your-future-is-grimmer-than-you-think/

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                    • kiokoman
                      kiokoman LAYER 8 last edited by

                      i'm from Veneto like her, that is the gist of it

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                      • provels
                        provels @kiokoman last edited by

                        @kiokoman I hope you are far closer to the end than the beginning.

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                        • Allcopstan
                          Allcopstan Banned last edited by

                          absolutely no.

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                          • kiokoman
                            kiokoman LAYER 8 last edited by

                            sadly no, it's still the beginnig especially if people don't understand that they have to stay at home and violate the quarantine

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                            • stephenw10
                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator last edited by

                              Unfortunately I think asking that question this time next year might be closer to reality. 😬

                              Steve

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                                oliv88 last edited by

                                Actually yes, it is not actually adding the number on daily basis.
                                this disease get the multiplier factor. (everyone should make sure to implement self isolation to overcome this disease)

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                                • provels
                                  provels last edited by provels

                                  Trump wants everyone back to work.
                                  10,000 new cases today.
                                  Go figure.
                                  "Must save stock market"

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                                  • kiokoman
                                    kiokoman LAYER 8 last edited by

                                    history teaches us, money has always been more important than human lives

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                                    • provels
                                      provels @kiokoman last edited by provels

                                      @kiokoman said in be honest are you worried about corona:

                                      history teaches us, money has always been more important than human lives

                                      especially to the survivors.

                                      “Only the dead have seen the end of war.”
                                      ― Plato

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                                        • provels
                                          provels last edited by

                                          I'm frankly surprised we haven't seen massive slowdowns and outages on the Internet. Even my domestic Comcast 300/20 line is still bursting to 340 with everyone streaming and working from home. Who needs 5g?

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                                            Raysh Banned last edited by

                                            I'm worried about my parents

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                                            • francisbaud
                                              francisbaud @jwj last edited by

                                              @jwj said in be honest are you worried about corona:

                                              Fear is what's left when we abandon reason. So. Today. In Trumpistan. I'm scared sh*tless.

                                              What's scare you the most in/about Trumpistan?

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                                                • kiokoman
                                                  kiokoman LAYER 8 last edited by

                                                  I see a lot of news here in Italy about the USA and the situation about coronavirus, is it that bad? the news is telling us that there are ppl on the road complaining / a lot of people that lose the job, long lines at the soup kitchen, isn't the government giving any financial help to families and preventing people from losing their jobs? lockdown without any sustenance?

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                                                  • Rico
                                                    Rico LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance last edited by

                                                    Any of you guys running Folding@Home?
                                                    https://foldingathome.org/2020/03/15/coronavirus-what-were-doing-and-how-you-can-help-in-simple-terms/

                                                    -Rico

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                                                    • bmeeks
                                                      bmeeks @kiokoman last edited by bmeeks

                                                      @kiokoman said in be honest are you worried about corona:

                                                      I see a lot of news here in Italy about the USA and the situation about coronavirus, is it that bad? the news is telling us that there are ppl on the road complaining / a lot of people that lose the job, long lines at the soup kitchen, isn't the government giving any financial help to families and preventing people from losing their jobs? lockdown without any sustenance?

                                                      No, it's not that bad. Actually, where I live, there is almost zero impact. 33 confirmed cases out of 23,000 people in the county. Three of those did die, but all were elderly and had other serious pre-existing conditions. Only 8 folks have required hospitalization in my county.

                                                      It is true that many people are tired of the "lockdown" and ready to go about their daily business because they have seen none of the "end of the world" dire predictions actually come true. Yes, New York City was a little hard hit, but that is a ton of people crammed on top of each other in a huge city that uses packed trains and subways for transportation. That is not so true elsewhere in the USA.

                                                      The news tends to always focus on the extreme. The joke we have here in the USA about the news is "if it bleeds, it leads". That means the reporters focus mostly only on the negative or dire or tragic things, and the more negative, dire or tragic the better for the story in their view. So 25 or 50 people protesting something loudly in a city of thousands really is not indicative of anything, but the news (especially TV news) will make sure all the camera shots include nothing but those 25 to 50 people with the shots framed to give the idea the entire city is out protesting. Then, if they can locate the one idiot that is guaranteed to be in any crowd, and get him to say something provocative or "politically incorrect", that's all the better for the "story" ... ☺.

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                                                      • kiokoman
                                                        kiokoman LAYER 8 last edited by

                                                        ahaha I thought it was so 😂

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                                                        • provels
                                                          provels @kiokoman last edited by provels

                                                          USA #1
                                                          70,000 dead
                                                          1,200,000 cases
                                                          We always have refrigerated tractor trailers at hospitals and corpses rotting in rental trucks.
                                                          Trump - 2020?

                                                          I guess it would have been worse if it was Bolsonaro:
                                                          "What do you want ME to do???"
                                                          https://e3.365dm.com/20/04/1600x900/skynews-grave-brazil-sao-paulo_4980810.jpg

                                                          Will be tragic if if burns through the densely populated areas of India or through Africa, where medical care is nonexistent, like an Australian wildfire.

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                                                          • kiokoman
                                                            kiokoman LAYER 8 last edited by

                                                            now trump is trying to blame china for the virus, what does it appear here is that he is trying to move the attention from his doing (or not doing / inability to do) to something else. i don't think it's the time to point the finger to someone, we can eventually do it later, but he should focus on solving the problem. the impression it gives is that of a child crying out of spite

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                                                            • provels
                                                              provels @kiokoman last edited by provels

                                                              @kiokoman That's his game. Every success is his alone, every failure someone else's.

                                                              PS - 30,000,000 out of work. Bills going unpaid, employer health insurance being lost, trillions more in national debt.

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                                                              • bmeeks
                                                                bmeeks @provels last edited by bmeeks

                                                                @provels said in be honest are you worried about corona:

                                                                USA #1
                                                                70,000 dead
                                                                1,200,000 cases
                                                                We always have refrigerated tractor trailers at hospitals and corpses rotting in rental trucks.
                                                                Trump - 2020?

                                                                There is not a single refrigerated tractor trailer truck at the hospitals in my state and not a single report of corpses rotting in rental trucks. If such a situation exists in your state, maybe it is more likely a reflection on the political leadership at your state or local level as opposed to the leadership at the national level. If it were solely the failing on some part from the Federal government leadership, I would expect all the states to have the issue.

                                                                This virus is more of a regional problem where some areas are more adversely impacted than others. For the highly impacted areas you can take extra and more agressive containment measures. In particular, as would really be expected, densely populated areas (read that as major metropolitan areas) are more heavily impacted than more rural areas. So use the social distancing, forced shelter-in-place orders and other things in those areas.

                                                                This all goes back to my original premise above about what the news organizations love to report. That is the "most negative view" of something.

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                                                                • provels
                                                                  provels @bmeeks last edited by

                                                                  @bmeeks https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/29/nyregion/bodies-brooklyn-funeral-home-coronavirus.html
                                                                  https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/02/nyregion/coronavirus-new-york-bodies.html
                                                                  These are Americans, too.

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                                                                  • bmeeks
                                                                    bmeeks @provels last edited by

                                                                    @provels said in be honest are you worried about corona:

                                                                    @bmeeks https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/29/nyregion/bodies-brooklyn-funeral-home-coronavirus.html
                                                                    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/02/nyregion/coronavirus-new-york-bodies.html
                                                                    These are Americans, too.

                                                                    Please find in my original post where I said they were not Americans. I was simply pointing out the issue appears to be highly regional. And regional issues are generally considered to be the responsibility first of the local governments.

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                                                                    • provels
                                                                      provels @bmeeks last edited by provels

                                                                      @bmeeks I find you inferring that if it doesn't affect me, it's not my problem.
                                                                      Go back to work, plenty available in the slaughterhouses, with 25% of production offline. If you live in Bumfuck, TX with more veterinarians than MDs, and the virus hits, this could just as easily be you.

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                                                                      • stephenw10
                                                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator last edited by

                                                                        annnnd this is crossing the line into politics. We are not going to solve that here. 😉

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                                                                        • provels
                                                                          provels @stephenw10 last edited by provels

                                                                          @stephenw10 Daaaaadddddd!!!!

                                                                          Scrooge probably said it best: "If they would rather die, . . . they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population."

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                                                                          • stephenw10
                                                                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator last edited by

                                                                            I mean this is off-topic so most things go but probably better to start a new thread if you really want to get into an argument neither side can ever win. At least that way I can just avoid it. 😁

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                                                                            • kiokoman
                                                                              kiokoman LAYER 8 last edited by kiokoman

                                                                              Stephen is right, let's maintain the off-topic discussion to general information and leave the political matter to others forum.
                                                                              the situation is similar to what we have here, we have 3 regions highly impacted but all the nation is on lockdown, but that was necessary to prevent the virus from spreading out of these regions. most of the other regions' infection was due to people migrating back to home from nord Italy to south Italy.
                                                                              I'm sure that everyone saw all the trucks that were starting from Bergamo full of corpses, that was an isolated case, with this I don't want to minimize the problem, but I suppose it's the same situation on new york and in other highly populated areas.

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                                                                                LuciousR last edited by

                                                                                I hope this disease has a cure soon. I live in New York and the situation here is delicate. Take care of yourselves 🙂

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                                                                                • jwj
                                                                                  jwj @stephenw10 last edited by

                                                                                  @stephenw10 @bmeeks Disappointing that there is a "side" to this. There is nothing remaining that hasn't been turned into a divisive issue, a culture war. Even knowable facts are argued about and ever more ridiculous lies told to obfuscate reality. Shameful what has become of our public discourse.

                                                                                  I have no doubt that someone will now argue that it isn't "our" public discourse but only that of the "other".

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                                                                                    valentinius last edited by

                                                                                    I hate this covid-19 because i lost god job when this pandemia has started, i think that this virus has caused many problems to everyone without infecting them - it just has destroyed our lives

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