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    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
    last edited by Apr 7, 2020, 5:35 PM

    So what is your actual IP of your pfsense wan? You have vips of .5 and .35 - what is the actual IP?

    Have you gone through the troubleshooting doc I Linked too - finding the issue with port forwarding is 2 minutes work tops!!! do a sniff do you see the traffic on your wan or not? Sniff on lan - do you see it send the traffic on?

    For all you know the traffic is being forwarded and your system your forwarding to firewall is blocking the traffic - very common!!!

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      maale @johnpoz
      last edited by Apr 8, 2020, 6:57 PM

      @johnpoz
      Thanks!

      The problem was that the routing environment doesnot support Virtual IPs.
      All traffic should be hit the pfsense WAN IP at 104.x.x.10 .So, I have set an external DNS with an IP 104.x.x.25 with my domain and records www.x.av for web server and mail.x.av for mail server, with port forward rules.
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      Now from an external machine 104.x.x.15 using the domain www.x.av I can access the web server, but using the domain mail.x.av, this directs me to the same webpage for the web server but not for the mail server. Is NAT reflection what I need to do?

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        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
        last edited by Apr 8, 2020, 7:00 PM

        @maale said in Enable internet access from LAN:

        routing environment doesnot support Virtual IPs.

        Huh - that makes no sense at all.

        Is NAT reflection what I need to do?

        No its not... if you want host.domain.tld to get sent to X, and other.domain.tld to get send to Y behind pfsense then you need to use multiple wan IP, vips or not... Or you need to hit different ports in your url, or you need to setup a reverse proxy to know that host.domain.tld goes to X and that other.domain.tld goes to Y.. Look at the HA proxy package.

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          maale @johnpoz
          last edited by Apr 8, 2020, 8:01 PM

          @johnpoz
          I mean the lab routing environment.
          ok I look for the HA package

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            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
            last edited by Apr 8, 2020, 8:09 PM

            Lab routing environment or real routing environment... Has zero to do with anything - an IP address that is in same network, has zero to do with routing...

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              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
              last edited by Apr 8, 2020, 8:59 PM

              Mmm, that.

              Why can you not use multiple IPs on WAN? What VIP type were you trying to use? Use IPAlias if you were not.

              Steve

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                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                last edited by Apr 8, 2020, 9:10 PM

                Maybe he meant their virtual environment that pfsense is running on? Maybe issues with vips in some VM setups, where you might have to do some promiscuous setting. But if VM, he could just create some new virtual interfaces and since he is using dhcp in this network.. He could have 3 different wan interfaces using 3 different IPs and then port forward..

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                  maale @johnpoz
                  last edited by Apr 8, 2020, 10:27 PM

                  @johnpoz
                  I am trying to install the HA proxy package, but I cannot see any packages listed. could you please let me know why? I can connect to www.pfsense.org successfully. And I have installed bind package before, but now a I cannot find available packages
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                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                    last edited by johnpoz Apr 8, 2020, 11:01 PM Apr 8, 2020, 11:00 PM

                    That because your pfsense install can not resolve most likely, since you prob installed bind and F'd it up..

                    Go to diagnostic menu, dns - lookup up something.. what does it show..

                    You connecting to something is completely different than pfsense resolving something.. What is your client using for dns, what is pfsense?

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                      maale @johnpoz
                      last edited by Apr 8, 2020, 11:23 PM

                      @johnpoz
                      I am using the pfsense DNS resolver and other 2 external DNS servers. diagnostic menu, dns - lookup google.com, gave no response from 127.0.0.1 but response from one of my external servers with google's IP address.

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                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                        last edited by Apr 8, 2020, 11:25 PM

                        @maale said in Enable internet access from LAN:

                        I am using the pfsense DNS resolver and other 2 external DNS servers

                        Not how it works - you are either resolving, or your using external dns via forwarding..

                        Your resolver is not working most likely because whatever network pfsense is on is prob blocking direct dns queries - and only allows access to googledns or whatever.

                        So change to forwarder mode..

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                          maale @johnpoz
                          last edited by Apr 8, 2020, 11:36 PM

                          @johnpoz
                          Thanks so much, now I can see the available package list

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                            maale @johnpoz
                            last edited by Apr 12, 2020, 5:30 PM

                            @johnpoz
                            Because I am using the same domain name for my internal and external services, I have used the bind9 package to set split DNS as follows and it works fine to resolve inside LAN and outside. All services from outside have pfsense WAN address.
                            This is first zone file for internal addresses.
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                            This is the second zone for external addresses.
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                            I also have set a NAT rule with destination= 127.0.0.1 port 53 in the LAN and WAN interfaces. So that split DNS works fine.
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                            Because all services have pfsense WAN address I used the squid reverse proxy package with the web and mail servers at 192.168.1.5 and 192.168.1.35. I want www.x.av goes to the internal web server at 192.168.1.5 port 80. And https://mail.x.av goes to the mail server at 192.168.1.35 port 443 and 143.
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                            . I set a WAN rule with source any destion :this firewall port 80 so that the traffic goes to the squid reverse proxy. That doesnot work for me, from outside I cannot access any of the two servers! Could you please let me know what is wrong with this setting?
                            Thanks.

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                              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                              last edited by Apr 12, 2020, 6:34 PM

                              You don't need bind to do split dns... And its at best problematic use the same domain internally as you do externally..

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                                maale @johnpoz
                                last edited by Apr 12, 2020, 6:48 PM

                                @johnpoz
                                so I can use the pfsense resolver and add hostoverides e.g www.x.av IP 104.x.x.10 ? or it is better to built an exteral dns for external quiries?

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                                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                  last edited by johnpoz Apr 12, 2020, 6:59 PM Apr 12, 2020, 6:58 PM

                                  What boxes exactly are going to be using pfsense as their dns? Your saying your going to make it the authoritative ns for your domain on the public internet? BAD IDEA!!

                                  If your going to do that, then you would for sure have to setup different views..

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                                    maale @johnpoz
                                    last edited by Apr 12, 2020, 7:06 PM

                                    @johnpoz
                                    yes I have set up 2 zones with 2 views. Bind works fine, but my setting for the reverse squid proxy doesnot work.

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                                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                      last edited by johnpoz Apr 12, 2020, 8:43 PM Apr 12, 2020, 8:39 PM

                                      Not sure how your going to get port 143 to work... IMAP doesn't send headers that a proxy can look at to see where it should go, etc.. That would be port based normal forward.

                                      You would use reverse proxy or ha proxy (reverse) for stuff that sends headers - http/https

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                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                        last edited by Apr 13, 2020, 11:37 AM

                                        Why are you port forwarding DNS to localhost?

                                        Is that service on port 143 really https? Or IMAP which, as Jogn says, should not be proxied like that.

                                        What is that NAT rule on WAN for port 80?

                                        Many questions...still. 😕

                                        Steve

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                                          Gertjan @stephenw10
                                          last edited by Apr 13, 2020, 1:19 PM

                                          @stephenw10 said in Enable internet access from LAN:

                                          What is that NAT rule on WAN for port 80?

                                          That's easy : the GUI-from-WAN access rule.

                                          No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                                          Edit : and where are the logs ??

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