CentOS 8 EOL
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Thanks to IBM/RH we no longer have until 2029 for the EOL of CentOS 8.
Read more about that here.
That's an unfortunate kick in the teeth for those of us who have recently deployed lots of CentOS 8 servers and of course, the newer versions of TNSR. It wouldn't be particularly prudent to have production routers living on an upstream development operating system so my question is what is Netgate going to move to for TNSR? I know it's still early days but will be interested to hear the thoughts and thinkings of anyone.Without wanting to set foot into the dark territory that is Oracle Linux there wasn't much option until very recently, earlier tonight CloudLinux CEO Igor mentioned plans they have to build a freely available Cloudlinux OS which is based on RHEL, that could be a potential option.
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@stratagem-ben It’s an interesting, and certainly non-trivial, development. We are thinking through options for the best path forward. Clearly, we must weigh a variety of factors including our existing customer feature request and release plans, long-term product stability, implementation effort and timing, etc. Watch for a blog on the topic soon.
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@dennis_s Definitely not the news we wanted, more 2020-esque bad news. Will look forward to the blog post and seeing which way things go. Thanks for the swift response!
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There are already forks...Rocky, from the creator of CentOS (https://news.itsfoss.com/rocky-linux-announcement/), and CloudLinux (https://blog.cloudlinux.com/announcing-open-sourced-community-driven-rhel-fork-by-cloudlinux).
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Probably not a popular choice, but do not forget Oracle Linux. It's already there, it works, it's far from promiseware and with the current state of affairs, probably better off.
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... or move to debian
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@kiokoman said in CentOS 8 EOL:
... or move to debian
would take more work on the front end, but thereafter TSNR would no longer be subject to the whims and willingness to break commitments that IBM/Redhat has shown. All the RHEL derivatives, no matter how well-intentioned, are still ultimately at IBMs mercy.
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@vesalius just saw this tonight:
https://blog.cloudlinux.com/announcing-open-sourced-community-driven-rhel-fork-by-cloudlinux
And
https://www.zdnet.com/article/goodbye-centos-hello-rocky-linux/
Seems like Netgate will have the same OS to use albeit under a different name.
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My worry if I am putting out a longterm stable and supported product is that all the RHEL derivatives, which include cloud Linux, Rocky Linux and Springdale (http://springdale.math.ias.edu/), are still ultimately at IBMs mercy because they hold the master key (RHEL).
https://youtu.be/qqc3k5Ym1tA?t=680
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@vesalius no they do not. RHEL can always be rebuilt from the source code that rhel MUST provide per the GPL. When centos was borged by RHEL the writing was on the wall for Centos. The other rebuilds will continue because the rhel sources will always be available. https://etc-md.com/2020/12/09/the-end-of-centos-and-my-moving-to-bsd/
