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      r801248
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      Hello Gents, and Ladies

      First post here, need a little help figuring out why are the VLANs being blocked by the firewall.
      I'm not new to FreebSD and Networking in general, but my knowledge is at a "layman" level if you will.

      My box is a Supermicro E200-9B with 4 NIC cards set up as follows,

      WAN - igb1
      LAN - igb2 - 192.168.3.0/24
      OPT1 - igb0 - 172.24.0.0/24
      OPT2 - igb3 - 10.70.0.0/24

      LAN connects to a dummy switch --> Negear Router in AP mode and that's what providing
      connection to the rest of the house at the moment. Running pfBlockerNG and Snort INLINE without issues.

      Recently bought a Netgear GS110TPv3 with the intention of subnetting - Kids WIFI, IoT, NAS, etc.- and connected it to OPT2 using a static address. This is an 8 ports swith, I'm using g8 as the trunk and the rest to play with VLANs. At the moment I have only VLAN10 (10.70.10.0/24) for ports g1 and g2, these two Untagged and g8 Tagged as the manual suggests. Also confirmed the correct setup with Netgear's Customer Service.

      Did the same in my pfSense box and created the VLAN, Firewall Rules, DCHP Server settings following the manual and this write-up here (https://netosec.com/protect-home-network/). Now, if I connect my laptop to either of those two ports, it cannot pick up the DHCP address from the router. If connected to any of the other ports, g3 -> g7, then it connects to the 10.70.0.0/24 range.

      The system log shows APIPA range blocked.

      Jan 10 20:43:24	OPT2	Block IPv4 link-local (1000000101)	  169.254.199.118:137	  169.254.255.255:137	UDP
      

      Firewall rules in OPT2 and OPT3 (VLAN10) are simple. One rule to allow access within the subnet, and the second to allow internet access.

      I've read a few posts on here and I haven't found the solution yet.
      I do appreciate your help in advance.
      Thanks,

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      • kiokomanK
        kiokoman LAYER 8 @r801248
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        @r801248
        169.254.x.x it's a link-local address, it's an IP for devices that are unable to obtain a DHCP address from the server
        you see the traffic on OPT2 aka igb3 something is wrong on your switch or on your pfSense configuration. we need screenshots of what you have done

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          r801248 @kiokoman
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          @kiokoman
          Thanks for answering. On the switch, IP address is set up as static and the VLAN as follows -
          switch 1.png
          switch 2.png
          switch 3.png
          All other settings are set to default values.

          On the pfSense box -
          Interfaces
          pf 1.png
          Firewall rules (Similar for OPT3)
          pf rules.png
          With Private_IPv4 as,
          privipv4.png
          And DHCP (Similar setup for OPT3)
          dhcp.png

          DNS Resolver is used by ALL interfaces, and Outbound NAT as Manual (Tried Hybrid and Auto, same results)

          Thanks,

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            JKnott @r801248
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            @r801248 said in VLANs blocked by Firewall:

            it cannot pick up the DHCP address from the router

            Did you enable DHCP servers on each VLAN?

            PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
            i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
            UniFi AC-Lite access point

            I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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              r801248 @JKnott
              last edited by

              @jknott said in VLANs blocked by Firewall:

              Did you enable DHCP servers on each VLAN?

              Correct.

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              • JKnottJ
                JKnott @r801248
                last edited by

                @r801248

                Well, you'll have to do what I often recommend. Start simple and get things working, before you do anything else. Then you can see where the failure occurs. As it is, a firewall will not block a VLAN as VLANs are layer 2 and firewalls work at layer 3. The firewall rules are applied to each LAN or VLAN as required. Just get the basic networks going first and then start adding the rules.

                PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                UniFi AC-Lite access point

                I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                • kiokomanK
                  kiokoman LAYER 8 @JKnott
                  last edited by

                  @r801248
                  opt3 is vlan10, i don't see a screenshot for firewall rules and for the dhcp of that interface

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                    r801248 @kiokoman
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                    @kiokoman

                    Sorry, here you go. I only set up the switch static address in OPT2, not in the VLAN.
                    opt3 rules.png
                    opt3 dhcp.png

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                    • kiokomanK
                      kiokoman LAYER 8 @r801248
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                      @r801248
                      ok
                      "opt2 net * opt2 net" and "opt3 net * opt3 net", not a big deal but they are wrong rules, devices on the same subnet talk to each other without the help of pfsense. pfsense does not see traffic when the client talk to each other on the same subnet

                      i don't see anything else wrong on pfsense, i don't know how the netgear should be configured.
                      what i understand is that the vlan tag is not working right on g1/g2/g8
                      is there an option like vlan port based vs vlan 802.1q or Dot1q on the switch? it should be 802.1q or Dot1q. is the switch configured as layer 2 ? (ip routing should be disabled on the switch)
                      maybe you can use packet capture on the parent interface to see if traffic is passing with tag and if a dhcp DORA is passing

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                        r801248 @kiokoman
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                        @kiokoman IP Routing is disabled on the switch. These are the SWITCHING --> VLAN options available.

                        switch-vlan.png

                        And this is the packet capture on the parent interface (OPT2), where 10.70.0.200 is the static IP of the switch.

                        03235d10-1c5f-485f-b9f0-15d0103af000-image.png

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                        • kiokomanK
                          kiokoman LAYER 8 @r801248
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                          @r801248
                          filter for port 67 / 68 and do a release/renew ( or remove and replug the cable) on whatever you have on g1/g2 , i don't see dhcp stuff on that packet capture
                          there should be something like this
                          d7e7a638-cc50-4f2b-8735-417300ea34ae-image.png
                          where ID 30 is my vlan 30

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                            r801248 @kiokoman
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                            @kiokoman

                            So, in the Packet Capture screen, you want me to select OPT2 as the interface? I'm assuming Host Address is the Switch's ...

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                              kiokoman LAYER 8 @r801248
                              last edited by kiokoman

                              @r801248
                              use opt3, i don't know if youcan do that with packet capture from pfsense, i use wireshark
                              did you try to reboot pfsense and the switch?

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                                r801248 @kiokoman
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                                @kiokoman

                                Both rebooted.

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                                  cburbs @r801248
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                                  @r801248 What is your Port PVID Config look like? ooops that was posted earlier.

                                  What does this look like?

                                  cf1d6151-3600-4ee3-bedd-abec4cea41ce-image.png

                                  That config looks correct even looking at this ...

                                  https://kb.netgear.com/11673/How-do-I-setup-a-VLAN-trunk-link-between-two-NETGEAR-switches

                                  Also on the switch Select Switching > VLAN > Advanced > VLAN Status. what does that look like?

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                                    r801248 @cburbs
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                                    @cburbs Hello,

                                    This is what they look like...
                                    vlans.png
                                    vlans status.png

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                                      cburbs @r801248
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                                      @r801248

                                      And if you plug your laptop into ports 3-7 you mentioned you do get a dhcp from VLAN10 (10.70.10.0/24) ? Can you also get out to the internet on those ports?

                                      Have you tried to add say Port 5 to vlan10 untagged and plug into that to see what happens?

                                      Maybe delete that Vlan 10 from the switch and start over with it?

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                                        r801248 @cburbs
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                                        @cburbs
                                        When I plug the laptop into g3-g7 I get a DHCP from the parent interface (10.70.0.0/24) - Yes, I get out to the internet.
                                        Adding any other port (untagged) makes it behave like g1-g2.

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                                          kiokoman LAYER 8 @r801248
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                                          @r801248
                                          did you check if there is a firmware update for that netgear?

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                                            r801248 @kiokoman
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                                            @kiokoman
                                            There is an upgrade. I guess I'll go that route.
                                            Thanks,

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