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      NickH 0
      last edited by

      Hi All

      Basic setup - clients have their DNS set to the netgate router LAN / Gateway.

      Clients will randomly stop working and cant access anything on the internet. setting a client to 1.1.1.1 DNS manually and voila it works. a reboot of the netgate works and it will work for a while and then out of no where clients using the netgate as DNS will stop working again. Its getting annoying now and wondering if anyone has experienced this?

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        plfinch
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        I have been experiencing this as well every few days since upgrading an SG-5100 to 21.02 (and now p1). Unbound silently dies and stops logging, and pfSense shows unbound as not running. This never happened previously with 2.4.5p1 and prior. I just setup some probes and monitors yesterday to see if I can learn more at next occurrence.

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          LuigiM81
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          Same here with 2.5 CE

          After restart unbound via Services everything works great again.

          Mario

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          • bingo600B
            bingo600 @LuigiM81
            last edited by

            @luigim81

            I'm using the service watchdog package , to monitor & restart unbound.
            If it crashes ...

            /Bingo

            If you find my answer useful - Please give the post a šŸ‘ - "thumbs up"

            pfSense+ 23.05.1 (ZFS)

            QOTOM-Q355G4 Quad Lan.
            CPUĀ  : Core i5 5250U, Ram : 8GB Kingston DDR3LV 1600
            LANĀ  : 4 x Intel 211, DiskĀ  : 240G SAMSUNG MZ7L3240HCHQ SSD

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              NickH 0 @bingo600
              last edited by

              @bingo600 is this in the package maanger ?

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              • bingo600B
                bingo600 @NickH 0
                last edited by

                @nickh-0

                Yes

                2f869ccc-82ae-4890-b415-a4471157ff1b-image.png

                Note : I'm still on 2.4.5-p1 , but i'd be suprised if it isn't in 2.5 too.

                /Bingo

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                pfSense+ 23.05.1 (ZFS)

                QOTOM-Q355G4 Quad Lan.
                CPUĀ  : Core i5 5250U, Ram : 8GB Kingston DDR3LV 1600
                LANĀ  : 4 x Intel 211, DiskĀ  : 240G SAMSUNG MZ7L3240HCHQ SSD

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                • GertjanG
                  Gertjan @bingo600
                  last edited by Gertjan

                  Hummm.

                  Try using 2.5.0 - Unbound never failed (crashed) on me.
                  edit : neither the version before.

                  Btw : I'm using a 'vanilla' intel based box (Dell desktop PC stripped down).

                  224f3c5c-9342-4df3-9334-5d092444e110-image.png

                  Uncheck that one if you don't want unbound to get restart after each DHCP lease coming in .....

                  "pfBlockerNG 3" doesn't like that option neither :

                  7dbc0ab0-13f4-4c0e-a09a-0216932fcc6f-image.png

                  No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                  Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                    SashLi
                    last edited by

                    Same issue here but on 2.5.1. The DNS Server stopped working. The strange thing is that netstat is showing that port 23 is bounded and the gui showing that the service is running but there is no way to get a DNS resolve via the localhost server ( already checked bound interfaces ). Have a box with the same configuration on 2.5.0 and that is working correctly. It is also working if I'm using a external DNS server only with setting to ignore the local

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                    • GertjanG
                      Gertjan @SashLi
                      last edited by

                      @sashli said in DNS randomly stops working:

                      The strange thing is that netstat is showing that port 23 is bounded

                      That's a telnet server. Not DNS related.

                      @sashli said in DNS randomly stops working:

                      and the gui showing that the service is running

                      Do this extra test:

                      ps ax | grep `cat /var/run/unbound.pid`
                      

                      If it shows :

                      xxxxxx-  Ss      5:23.38 /usr/local/sbin/unbound -c /var/unbound/unbound.conf
                      

                      You will know for sure that unbound is there.

                      sockstat | grep 'unbound'
                      

                      or

                      sockstat | grep '53'
                      

                      shows you on which interfaces it lists.
                      "netstat" is more a linux command. It's "sockstat" for FreeBSD.

                      For me, it listens to all interfaces (no exceptions) :

                      unbound unbound 6660 3 udp6 *:53 :
                      unbound unbound 6660 4 tcp6 *:53 :
                      unbound unbound 6660 5 udp4 *:53 :
                      unbound unbound 6660 6 tcp4 *:53 :
                      unbound unbound 6660 7 tcp4 127.0.0.1:953 :

                      and this for TCP and UDP, IPv4 and IPv6.
                      This includes localhost == the old 127.0.0.1 or thew ::1.

                      The '953' is the special control access, which is only IPv4 - localhost.

                      [2.5.0-RELEASE][admin@pfsense.mylocal.net]/var/run: dig @::1 pfsense.mylocal.net. +short
                      192.168.1.1
                      

                      This means that unbound is up, running, and answering.

                      Also : 2.5.1 has some unbound related updates/upgrades.
                      I installed and tested it @home since yesterday. It's as good as 2.5.0 (and in theory better ^^)

                      @sashli said in DNS randomly stops working:

                      Have a box with the same configuration on 2.5.0 and that is working correctly.

                      This means : compare the two (only the settings you changed from default) and you'll have your answer.

                      No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                      Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                        vjizzle
                        last edited by

                        Unbound on 2.5 CE crashed regularly for me also. For the brief period that I was on 2.5.1 CE unbound did not crash. I did find that when I upgrade unbound pfSense 2.5 it is not crashing anymore. You can do this from the Command Prompt or shell access.

                        The command: pkg upgrade -fy unbound

                        Installed packages to be UPGRADED:
                        	unbound: 1.13.0_2 -> 1.13.1 [pfSense]
                        

                        Make sure to have backups before you do this :). I did find that this makes unbound stable on pfSense 2.5 CE for me but YMMV.

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                          SashLi @Gertjan
                          last edited by

                          @gertjan same result. host is showing that unbound is up and working but not resolving.

                          ps ax | grep `cat /var/run/unbound.pid`
                          
                          
                          12809  -  Is      0:00.02 /usr/local/sbin/unbound -c /var/unbound/unbound.conf
                          

                          sockstat report running service

                          unbound  unbound    36677 4  udp6   *:53                  *:*
                          unbound  unbound    36677 5  tcp6   *:53                  *:*
                          unbound  unbound    36677 6  udp4   *:53                  *:*
                          unbound  unbound    36677 7  tcp4   *:53                  *:*
                          unbound  unbound    36677 8  tcp4   127.0.0.1:953         *:*
                          

                          Doing a dig on local now lead to

                          dig @::1 pfsense.org +short
                          net.c:536: probing sendmsg() with IP_TOS=b8 failed: Can't assign requested address
                          208.123.73.69
                          

                          the stange thing is when trying to do this against the IPv4 localhost 127.0.0.1

                          dig @127.0.0.1 pfsense.org +short
                          net.c:536: probing sendmsg() with IP_TOS=b8 failed: Can't assign requested address
                          
                          ; <<>> DiG 9.16.12 <<>> @127.0.0.1 pfsense.org +short
                          ; (1 server found)
                          ;; global options: +cmd
                          ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
                          

                          Also trying the GUI DNS Test fail with no response. I added the ::1 to test if it is a problem resolving against 127.0.0.1 only

                          DNS issue.png

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                            juniper @SashLi
                            last edited by

                            @sashli same problem here:

                            after upgrading pfsense from 2.5.0 to 2.5.1 unboud stop responding on 127.0.0.1:

                            [2.5.1-RELEASE][admin@ids.********.**]/etc/defaults: dig @127.0.0.1
                            net.c:536: probing sendmsg() with IP_TOS=b8 failed: Can't assign requested address
                            
                            
                            [2.5.1-RELEASE][admin@ids.*********.**]/etc/defaults: ping 127.0.0.1
                            PING 127.0.0.1 (127.0.0.1): 56 data bytes
                            ping: sendto: Can't assign requested address
                            ping: sendto: Can't assign requested address
                            ping: sendto: Can't assign requested address
                            ping: sendto: Can't assign requested address
                            
                            

                            unbound service starts:

                            [2.5.1-RELEASE][admin@ids.********.**]/etc/defaults: netstat -ln
                            Active Internet connections
                            Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address                                 Foreign Address                               (state)    
                            tcp4       0      0 10.10.200.2.443                               10.10.15.3.56532                              ESTABLISHED
                            tcp4       0     44 10.10.200.2.22                                10.10.15.3.37490                              ESTABLISHED
                            tcp4       0      0 10.10.200.2.22                                10.10.15.3.37488                              ESTABLISHED
                            udp6       0      0 ::1.53                                        *.*                                           
                            udp4       0      0 127.0.0.1.53                                  *.*                                           
                            
                            

                            On pfsense firewall we have snort and pfblockerNG, nothing is changed from 2.5.0, we have only upgraded pfsense.

                            Some suggestion?

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                            • GertjanG
                              Gertjan @SashLi
                              last edited by

                              @sashli said in DNS randomly stops working:

                              dig @127.0.0.1 pfsense.org +short

                              Let's add some details.
                              Lot's of details.

                              dig @127.0.0.1 pfsense.org +trace
                              

                              But the real issue is here :

                              net.c:536: probing sendmsg() with IP_TOS=b8 failed: Can't assign requested address
                              

                              'dig' is not family of, or related to 'unbound'.
                              dig comes from the bind FreeBSD package 'bind-tools'.

                              "net.c" is one of the main source code files, and it can not "use the IP you gave" ... it can not use "127.0.0.1" so it can contact unbound over 127.0.0.1 port 53 UDP.

                              When I stop unbound - so no one is listing on 127.0.0.1 port 53, and execute a
                              dig @127.0.0.1 pfsense.org +trace
                              it comes back after several seconds with a logical "connection timed out; no servers could be reached"

                              You have interface problems ..... and not 'unbound' problems. unbound is yet another victim of the real issue.

                              No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                              Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                                juniper @Gertjan
                                last edited by

                                @gertjan yes problem is related to interfaces...

                                if i try to ping 127.0.0.1 i've the same error...

                                Someone opened a bug for that?

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                                  SashLi @Gertjan
                                  last edited by

                                  @gertjan thanks for your feedback but it looks really like a problem with the localhost 127.0.0.1 interface. I just reinstalled the ntopng and this has also problems starting and running services. Issue leading in the same direction here "Could not connect to Redis at 127.0.0.1:6379: Can't assign requested address'".

                                  The question is: why is the interface on the localhost not reachable by the system itself ? Any idea ?

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                                    juniper @SashLi
                                    last edited by

                                    @sashli try to ping other interfaces from pfsense itself...

                                    i think is jail related or something similar...

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                                      SashLi @juniper
                                      last edited by

                                      @juniper just found this ticket in redmine, not sure if this can be an issue created by this gatewax problem

                                      IPv4 link-local (169.254.x.x) gateway does not function

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                                        juniper @SashLi
                                        last edited by

                                        @sashli i don't know...

                                        I can add an information, my pfsense installation is on proxmox ve virtual machine.

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                                        • GertjanG
                                          Gertjan @SashLi
                                          last edited by Gertjan

                                          @sashli said in DNS randomly stops working:

                                          @juniper just found this ticket in redmine, not sure if this can be an issue created by this gatewax problem

                                          IPv4 link-local (169.254.x.x) gateway does not function

                                          That's a special case, using IP's like 169.254.0.0/16.
                                          There is a small patch for this - jimp posted one yesterday.

                                          I've updated my pfSense at home (Hyper-V = VM) based : it's just perfect.
                                          I've just updated my work pfSense, they update went just fine. Again perfect.

                                          127.0.0.1 isn't even an external driver related, as it is part of the build in 'kernel' IP stack facilities.

                                          Use another VM host - if you have a Windows 10 Pro somewhere, you could make one right away, or install pfSense bare bone and you see that their is - can not be - localhost issues, as it will break everything.

                                          Just to be sure : your issue exists after you reset to default - and you only changed the password (!! did NOT import your settings !!) ?

                                          No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                                          Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                                            juniper @SashLi
                                            last edited by

                                            @sashli

                                            Problem appear if i insert 127.0.0.1 on GENERAL SETUP---DNS Server Settings

                                            I use to have there 127.0.0.1 if pfsense is a dns resolver.

                                            If i config with 127.0.0.1 GENERAL SETUP---DNS Server Settings as a default pfsense dns server there is the problem with interface lo0.

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