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      gerryatric @Gertjan
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      @gertjan Hi here is the snapshot of the gateways page

      Screen Shot 2021-09-14 at 6.14.10 pm.png

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        Gertjan @gerryatric
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        Ok, that corresponds.

        The logs say that 'non' is available, and that WAN_PPPOE is chosen.
        You might as well remove the automatic choice, and select WAN_PPPOE right away.

        Like this :
        712744b1-a448-494a-8091-816c953646ca-image.png

        ( Mine is WAN_DHCP, I don't have WAN_PPPOE).

        These lines shouldn't show up any more :

        192.168.200.3	Sep 14 12:01:22		daemon	err	php-fpm[24661]	/rc.newwanip: Gateway, none 'available' for inet, use the first one configured. 'WAN_PPPOE'
        192.168.200.3	Sep 14 12:01:22		daemon	err	php-fpm[24661]	/rc.newwanip: Default gateway setting Interface WAN_PPPOE Gateway as default.
        192.168.200.3	Sep 14 12:01:22		daemon	err	php-fpm[24661]	/rc.newwanip: Gateway, none 'available' for inet6, use the first one configured. ''
        192.168.200.3	Sep 14 12:01:22		daemon	err	php-fpm[24661]	/rc.newwanip: IP Address has changed, killing states on former IP Address 124.171.220.193.
        192.168.200.3	Sep 14 12:01:24		daemon	err	php-fpm[33476]	/rc.openvpn: Gateway, none 'available' for inet, use the first one configured. 'WAN_PPPOE'
        192.168.200.3	Sep 14 12:01:24		daemon	err	php-fpm[33476]	/rc.openvpn: Gateway, none 'available' for inet6, use the first one configured. ''
        

        ( these are not errors, though )

        What I presume :
        The PPPOE connection works and negotiates all the needed parameters.
        The issue now is : 'nothing' passes over the connection - that is ping or ICMP packets don't come back. That's not a good sign.
        Try this : Go here and make settings look like :

        a9e64401-e091-4d98-9645-70e59d9c8bae-image.png

        Now dpinger won't test your connection any more, neither have interaction with it.

        When the connection fails, there is probably a "5 minutes time out" on the ISP side, and this explains the many retries of a connection as pfSense tries to re establish to fast - doesn't wait for "5 minutes". Not a real issue, the "5 minutes" is there to protect the ISP authentication servers.

        No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
        Edit : and where are the logs ??

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          gerryatric @gerryatric
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          @gerryatric ok yes I followed those details.
          now the logs are fairly clean

          Sep 14 19:29:14 syslogd sendto: Host is down
          Sep 14 19:29:13 syslogd sendto: Host is down
          Sep 14 19:29:13 ppp 98339 [wan_link0] PPPoE: Connecting to 'IINET'
          Sep 14 19:29:13 syslogd sendto: Host is down
          Sep 14 19:29:13 syslogd sendto: Host is down
          Sep 14 19:29:13 ppp 98339 [wan_link0] Link: reconnection attempt 105
          Sep 14 19:29:13 syslogd sendto: Host is down
          Sep 14 19:29:11 syslogd sendto: Host is down
          Sep 14 19:29:10 syslogd sendto: Host is down
          Sep 14 19:29:10 ppp 98339 [wan_link0] Link: reconnection attempt 105 in 3 seconds
          Sep 14 19:29:10 syslogd sendto: Host is down
          Sep 14 19:29:10 syslogd sendto: Host is down
          Sep 14 19:29:10 ppp 98339 [wan_link0] LCP: Down event
          Sep 14 19:29:10 syslogd sendto: Host is down
          Sep 14 19:29:10 syslogd sendto: Host is down
          Sep 14 19:29:10 ppp 98339 [wan_link0] Link: DOWN event
          Sep 14 19:29:10 syslogd sendto: Host is down
          Sep 14 19:29:10 syslogd sendto: Host is down
          Sep 14 19:29:10 ppp 98339 [wan_link0] PPPoE connection timeout after 9 seconds

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            biggsy @gerryatric
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            @gerryatric

            Try removing the Service name "IINET".

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              gerryatric @biggsy
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              @biggsy did that before. no luck

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              • GertjanG
                Gertjan @biggsy
                last edited by Gertjan

                @biggsy said in PPPOE wan will not connect -:

                Try removing the Service name "IINET".

                See the log file above.
                Search for that one moment where everything goes well : "bri-apt-wic-bras207".
                pfSense sends always the same data, but the connection doesn't come up often.
                And if it comes up, and 'identification' works out well (so : all local settings are ok !!) then connection is dropped right after tat moment.

                Way back, their was the hard core PPPOE connect method :
                Shut down everything.
                Start the modem - and wait for at least 5 minutes.
                Now start pfSense.
                If that doesn't work.
                Shut down everything.
                Wait for 24 houres (I know ... it's just a test)
                Now start modem and wait at least 5 minutes.
                Start pfSense.

                The thing that bothers that : why some other device can connect ?
                And did you test this : your PC can also do 'PPPoE' : select that type of connection, connect the PC to the modem, and check if it connects.

                No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                • stephenw10S
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                  Were you able to get a connection log from either of the other devices that can connect?

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                    gerryatric @Gertjan
                    last edited by

                    @gertjan Hi Steve. Sorry for delay.
                    Was trying to get a fresh perspective on all of the issues.
                    I have done what you suggested above. no change except the log files shrank to up and down mostly :) over and over again.
                    I even tried spoofing the mac address on the Wan interface and no luck
                    If I change it from PPPOE to DHCP, I get a green Wan interface immediately with 0.0.0.0 as an IP. obviously because there is no authentication happening there.
                    I am not sure what else to try here.
                    Fresh installs, changes, guides, forums, I am stumped.
                    Why is it so difficult., When the USG PRO just works

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                      fireodo @gerryatric
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                      @gerryatric said in PPPOE wan will not connect -:

                      When the USG PRO just works

                      Can you get by any chance from the USG a connect log that shows how the USG makes the connection? That might be helpful.

                      Kettop Mi4300YL CPU: i5-4300Y @ 1.60GHz RAM: 8GB Ethernet Ports: 4
                      SSD: SanDisk pSSD-S2 16GB (ZFS) WiFi: WLE200NX
                      pfsense 2.8.0 CE
                      Packages: Apcupsd, Cron, Iftop, Iperf, LCDproc, Nmap, pfBlockerNG, RRD_Summary, Shellcmd, Snort, Speedtest, System_Patches.

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                        Gertjan @gerryatric
                        last edited by Gertjan

                        @gerryatric said in PPPOE wan will not connect -:

                        When the USG PRO just works

                        Then I repeat :

                        @stephenw10 said in PPPOE wan will not connect -:

                        Were you able to get a connection log from either of the other devices that can connect?

                        Or this one :

                        @stephenw10 said in PPPOE wan will not connect -:

                        Check the ppp logs in the ER or any other router that does connect.

                        For example :

                        USG WAN Logs

                        No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                        Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                          biggsy @gerryatric
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                          @gerryatric

                          I just found something over on Whirlpool that suggests setting an MTU of 1500 and disabling VJ compression (Interfaces > PPPs > Edit, Advanced Options).

                          The poster then edited to say an MTU of 1500 was enough.

                          link text

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                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                            Mmm, easy test at least.

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                              gerryatric @biggsy
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                              @biggsy Hi
                              Same issue. that didn't do anything either sadly

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                                gerryatric @gerryatric
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                                @gerryatric The MTU setting on my Wan port on the USG is 1440
                                Apparently it needed to be lower to get the speed up.
                                When I first connected I had 1492 in .
                                I couldn't get above 200mbps.
                                So I rang IINEt and to get Ultrafast speed on fibre, you need to lower the MTU. They gave me a couple numbers and 1440 worked the best.

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                                  Gertjan @biggsy
                                  last edited by Gertjan

                                  The MTU when using pppoe, in the inside, can never be 1500.
                                  Classic pppoe is 1472 or something close to that.
                                  Yours is encapsed in a VLAN, so even less ?
                                  Dono what an MRU is.

                                  Btw : you can determine what the best value is :
                                  ping with a given packet size (the default is 60 bytes so it always passes) - and check the answers for 'fragmentation'.
                                  Repeat the test, start at 1400, and add 4 on every next test.
                                  As soon as 'fragmented comes back, you found your MTU value.
                                  There are many how-to available on the net.

                                  This test needs a working connection, of course.

                                  No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                                  Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                                    gerryatric @Gertjan
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                                    @gertjan yep I did that with IINEt when setting up the USG, we deduced that 1440 was the best settings with the ping.
                                    That still doesn't explain why it won't connect though.

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                                      biggsy @gerryatric
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                                      @gerryatric

                                      In your earlier logs, just after the ntp lines @Gertjan referenced, there is this sequence:

                                      192.168.200.3	Sep 14 12:01:18		daemon	info	ppp[52996]	[wan]   118.208.207.22 -> 10.20.26.62
                                      192.168.200.3	Sep 14 12:01:18		daemon	info	ppp[52996]	[wan]   118.208.207.22 -> 10.20.26.62
                                      192.168.200.3	Sep 14 12:01:19		user	notice	check_reload_status[374]	rc.newwanip starting pppoe0
                                      192.168.200.3	Sep 14 12:01:19		daemon	info	ppp[52996]	[wan] IFACE: Up event
                                      192.168.200.3	Sep 14 12:01:19		daemon	info	ppp[52996]	[wan] IFACE: Up event
                                      192.168.200.3	Sep 14 12:01:19		daemon	info	ppp[52996]	[wan] IFACE: Rename interface ng0 to pppoe0
                                      192.168.200.3	Sep 14 12:01:19		daemon	info	ppp[52996]	[wan] IFACE: Rename interface ng0 to pppoe0
                                      192.168.200.3	Sep 14 12:01:20		ntp	info	ntpd[99177]	Listen normally on 36 pppoe0 118.208.207.22:123
                                      192.168.200.3	Sep 14 12:01:20		ntp	info	ntpd[99177]	Listen normally on 37 pppoe0 [fe80::215:17ff:febf:f4cc%8]:123
                                      192.168.200.3	Sep 14 12:01:20		daemon	err	php-fpm[24661]	/rc.newwanip: rc.newwanip: Info: starting on pppoe0.
                                      192.168.200.3	Sep 14 12:01:20		daemon	err	php-fpm[24661]	/rc.newwanip: rc.newwanip: on (IP address: 118.208.207.22) (interface: WAN[wan]) (real interface: pppoe0).
                                      192.168.200.3	Sep 14 12:01:20		user	warning	dpinger[93646]	send_interval 500ms  loss_interval 2000ms  time_period 60000ms  report_interval 0ms  data_len 1  alert_interval 1000ms  latency_alarm 500ms  loss_alarm 20%  dest_addr 10.20.26.62  bind_addr 118.208.207.22  identifier "WAN_PPPOE "
                                      192.168.200.3	Sep 14 12:01:22		user	warning	dpinger[93646]	WAN_PPPOE 10.20.26.62: Alarm latency 0us stddev 0us loss 100%
                                      192.168.200.3	Sep 14 12:01:22		daemon	info	rc.gateway_alarm[95871]	>>> Gateway alarm: WAN_PPPOE (Addr:10.20.26.62 Alarm:1 RTT:0.000ms RTTsd:0.000ms Loss:100%)
                                      192.168.200.3	Sep 14 12:01:22		user	notice	check_reload_status[374]	updating dyndns WAN_PPPOE
                                      

                                      I'm just wondering where that 10.20.26.62 might have come from. Not something I'd expect iiNet to set.

                                      Could that be one of your home subnets?

                                      Edit: Or are you perhaps running a PPPoE server on your USG or ER?

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                                        gerryatric @biggsy
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                                        @biggsy Hi Phil
                                        I have no idea where that is coming from. It isn't there immediately.
                                        I have no gear on the local lan producing a 10.20.26.0 range at all
                                        I am running ZeroTier SD Wan software on some of my nodes but that is machine dependent. must have a client installed. and it is not in that range anyway.
                                        I do not know where that is coming from

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                                          biggsy @gerryatric
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                                          @gerryatric

                                          I think we need to find what's handing out that RFC1918 address. That looks like it's totally confusing PPPoE on your WAN.

                                          Maybe a port mirror on the SR2024 and packet capture would tell us. I can't help with the Cisco stuff, unfortunately.

                                          Maybe not. Seems the SR2024 is unmanaged.

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                                            gerryatric @biggsy
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                                            @biggsy yes it is just an unmanaged switch used to split the nbn signal is all. has the usg and the edgerouter connected to it

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