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      darkcorner
      last edited by darkcorner

      I bought this card with 4 network ports on Amazon
      https://www.amazon.it/gp/product/B083ST3TVZ.
      After several attempts I identified the ports (starting from the top)

      • igp1
      • igp0
      • igp3
      • igp4

      I would have expected the ports to be sorted sequentially, top to bottom or bottom to top, not mixed together.
      I wonder if it is the card that has problems and therefore must be returned, or if it is pfSense/FreeBSD that identifies the ports in this strange way.

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        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @darkcorner
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        @darkcorner and there is no 2? yeah that is odd..

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        • AndyRHA Offline
          AndyRH
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          Similar for me on pfSense and Windows with Intel NICs. I got a Port 2...
          1
          0
          2
          3

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            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @AndyRH
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            I have an old server I have to setup proxmox on sometime today, been putting it off.. It has 2 4 port nics in it.. Will make sure to note order of ports.. I have been out of the server biz for quite some time but I don't recall them ever being out of order like that.. Sometimes they go in opposite direction than you might think.. But I don't recall them being out of order or skipping a number like he says where there is no 2..

            I had a dual port nic in my old machine - but with only 2 its hard to tell if anything is off like being stated..

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            • AndyRHA Offline
              AndyRH
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              My first one like this was my first pfSense build and it took a bit to figure out why the WAN was getting an inside address. I thought it was a pfSense thing. Then I got an identical card for my PC and it did the same thing. Those are the only two I have seen do that and I have had many at work.

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                bingo600
                last edited by bingo600

                Wonder what is causing the naming.
                First detected or lowest mac or ???

                My QOTOM-Q355G4 have messed up ports.
                My newer 6-ports doesn't

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                • stephenw10S Offline
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                  last edited by

                  The port numbering order is entirely down the way FreeBSD parses the PCI tree.

                  You can force it to reorder using PCI Device Wiring but I don't recommend that. If you have to reinstall those settings will be lost and the ports would be re-ordered.

                  Steve

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                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @stephenw10
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                    Best solution is prob just a label maker and label them hehe

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                      AndyRH
                      last edited by

                      On mine it is not the MAC, I checked. Just a guess, but maybe they crossed 2 wires. The 4 ports are really 4 NICs on 1 board. They would be found in order as the OS scans the bus.

                      As for the label maker idea, be sure it is a little one. šŸ˜€

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                      • stephenw10S Offline
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                        last edited by

                        I bet they are not in order on the bus. Try running: pciconf -lv

                        The NICs will almost certainly appear in the correct order for the PCI device locations. As seen by FreeBSD at least. It's not uncommon to see the BIOS pass different values for FreeBSD that it does for Windows.

                        Steve

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                          Patch @johnpoz
                          last edited by Patch

                          @johnpoz said in 4 port NIC with mixed IDs:

                          server I have to setup proxmox on

                          For me with pfsense running in a VM under Proxmox, nic order is determined by the order they are defined in the VM definition created in Proxmox (I use nic pass through)

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                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Patch
                            last edited by johnpoz

                            @patch well got proxmox running - and its showing the interfaces freaking odd, ie get the 1-4, but then 49-52

                            proxmox.jpg

                            Haven't setup any vms yet just got the thing booted.. Old DL360 gen9..

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                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                              last edited by

                              Interesting. I'd check the PCI locations there too. If they're not the same card perhaps one set of NICs is behind a bridge so appears on a different bus?

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                                Patch
                                last edited by Patch

                                @johnpoz
                                What is happening would probably be shown by

                                lspci -v
                                

                                and if you have set up pass through

                                for d in /sys/kernel/iommu_groups/*/devices/*; do n=${d#*/iommu_groups/*}; n=${n%%/*}; printf 'IOMMU group %s ' "$n"; lspci -nns "${d##*/}"; done
                                

                                btw
                                When you create your VM I find it easiest to assign no NIC
                                then go to pve -> VM -> Hardware
                                and add nic in the order you want them to apear in pfsense ie WAN, LAN, Op1 etc
                                In pfsense then they will be given sequential numbers in that order.

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                                  darkcorner @johnpoz
                                  last edited by

                                  @johnpoz
                                  šŸ˜ž
                                  My error.

                                  • igp1
                                  • igp0
                                  • igp3
                                  • igp2
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                                    darkcorner @stephenw10
                                    last edited by

                                    @stephenw10 said in 4 port NIC with mixed IDs:

                                    I bet they are not in order on the bus. Try running: pciconf -lv

                                    pcib4@pci0:3:0:0:	class=0x060400 card=0x00000000 chip=0x230412d8 rev=0x05 hdr=0x01
                                        vendor     = 'Pericom Semiconductor'
                                        device     = 'PI7C9X2G304 EL/SL PCIe2 3-Port/4-Lane Packet Switch'
                                        class      = bridge
                                        subclass   = PCI-PCI
                                    pcib5@pci0:4:1:0:	class=0x060400 card=0x00000000 chip=0x230412d8 rev=0x05 hdr=0x01
                                        vendor     = 'Pericom Semiconductor'
                                        device     = 'PI7C9X2G304 EL/SL PCIe2 3-Port/4-Lane Packet Switch'
                                        class      = bridge
                                        subclass   = PCI-PCI
                                    pcib6@pci0:4:2:0:	class=0x060400 card=0x00000000 chip=0x230412d8 rev=0x05 hdr=0x01
                                        vendor     = 'Pericom Semiconductor'
                                        device     = 'PI7C9X2G304 EL/SL PCIe2 3-Port/4-Lane Packet Switch'
                                        class      = bridge
                                        subclass   = PCI-PCI
                                    igb0@pci0:5:0:0:	class=0x020000 card=0xa02f8086 chip=0x10c98086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00
                                        vendor     = 'Intel Corporation'
                                        device     = '82576 Gigabit Network Connection'
                                        class      = network
                                        subclass   = ethernet
                                    igb1@pci0:5:0:1:	class=0x020000 card=0xa02f8086 chip=0x10c98086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00
                                        vendor     = 'Intel Corporation'
                                        device     = '82576 Gigabit Network Connection'
                                        class      = network
                                        subclass   = ethernet
                                    igb2@pci0:6:0:0:	class=0x020000 card=0xa02f8086 chip=0x10c98086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00
                                        vendor     = 'Intel Corporation'
                                        device     = '82576 Gigabit Network Connection'
                                        class      = network
                                        subclass   = ethernet
                                    igb3@pci0:6:0:1:	class=0x020000 card=0xa02f8086 chip=0x10c98086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00
                                        vendor     = 'Intel Corporation'
                                        device     = '82576 Gigabit Network Connection'
                                        class      = network
                                        subclass   = ethernet
                                    

                                    Even so I would have expected them to be in order.

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                                      darkcorner @johnpoz
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                                      @johnpoz said in 4 port NIC with mixed IDs:

                                      Best solution is prob just a label maker and label them hehe

                                      I had thought of that too.
                                      However, if the numbering derives from FreeBSD the important thing is that this does not change at each restart because otherwise it would skip the assignment of the networks and therefore of the connected cables.

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                                        darkcorner @Patch
                                        last edited by

                                        @patch
                                        Is there lspci on FreeBSD / pfSense?
                                        I can't even find a package, I also tried with pciutils.

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                                          Patch @darkcorner
                                          last edited by

                                          @darkcorner said in 4 port NIC with mixed IDs:

                                          Is there lspci on FreeBSD / pfSense?

                                          No
                                          It is a linux command relevant to Proxmox not pfsense install

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                                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                            last edited by

                                            pciconf is the FreeBSD equivalent for most functions.

                                            You can see though how the ports are numbered in the order they are seen on the bus:

                                            igb0@pci0:5:0:0:
                                            igb1@pci0:5:0:1:
                                            igb2@pci0:6:0:0:
                                            igb3@pci0:6:0:1:
                                            

                                            There's nothing you can do to change that.

                                            Steve

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