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    UPnP Fix for multiple clients/consoles playing the same game

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      encrypt1d
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      I had some friends over to really test this out last weekend and below are my results:

      Verdict: Success

      6 Windows PCs total, Five Windows 10 / One Windows 11.

      Games tested: Call of Duty Black OPS III and WWII

      All five of the windows 10 machines got OPEN NAT in game straight away. The Windows 11 machine would NOT play ball. No matter what we tried, the Win 11 game client just refused to send any UPnP requests to the pfSense. To be clear - that is not a pfSense issue. I have reproduced it since, and will continue to debug that. Manually adding the ports via the Windows 11 gui worked to get open NAT (Windows File Explorer -> Network -> Right click on FreeBSD router -> Properties -> General -> Settings -> Add). So Windows 11 can talk to the miniupnpd server, just CoD doesn't seem to even try.

      Has anyone else gotten a CoD game on Windows 11 to talk UPnP? Would like to know if there is a magic secret. This is totally unrelated to pfSense as far as I know. Of course I had all software firewalls disabled for the test, and file & printer sharing on, network discovery on.

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        Saber @encrypt1d
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        @encrypt1d

        Did you confirm that the network is Private and not Public? This document discusses some steps for network discovery for Windows 11 which appears to be a little different than previous versions of Windows.

        https://www.minitool.com/news/windows-11-workgroup-not-showing-all-network-computers.html

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          encrypt1d @Saber
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          @saber
          Yes indeed it, is set to Private.

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            Saber @encrypt1d
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            @encrypt1d

            Win 11 is so new, it honestly wouldn't surprise me if its a bug.

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              encrypt1d @Saber
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              @saber
              Could very well be. I plan to test CoD Warzone soon, as it works fine on Windows 10 with UPnP, and is updated regularly at this point.

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                encrypt1d @encrypt1d
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                Tested at lunch today. Interesting results.

                I installed CoD Warzone (which is free, relatively new, and constantly updated). I fired it up and immediately got UPnP requests/OPEN NAT.

                Weird thing is, that ALSO fixed BO3 and WWII. They both instantly worked afterwards.

                I can only guess, but they may all use some shared net code to access UPnP via the OS, which was updated by Warzone? Dunno.

                Mystery somewhat solved. All 3 games working fine on Win 11 and behind a pfSense with this patch.

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                  kevin.ruffus
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                  Can confirm that the patch is at least part of resolving the issue, and that both the firewall and any system that will be using UPNP need to be rebooted in order for the fixes to take effect. I made multiple attempts reloading the filters and resetting the state tables with only rebooting the PC, resetting the NIC, etc, and only full reboots to both the PC and firewall worked.

                  I don't know if it's possible, but one thing that might help lessen the potential security issue with using UPNP would be to clear generated forwards after a certain amount of time of non-use. Just a thought.

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                    Frisbee3713
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                    Finally UPnP seems to work as expected upon applying the system patch. No additional configuration required: static port, 1:1, hairpin, etc need not be enabled.

                    Unfortunately UPnP is still very broken in dual stack situations where clients presumably send UPnP requests from the IPv6 link local address. I suspect users who could not get it to work in this thread are probably using dual stack deployments. Disabling IPv6 on client will make UPnP work as it should. Apps that only support IPv4 work regardless in my testing.

                    If only there was a way for miniupnpd to consider v6 GUA + v6 LL + v4 addresses as one entity and apply needed port forward and pinholes accordingly then all UPnP problems would be addressed for good?!

                    Thank you devs for this patch.

                    EDIT: There appears to be an issue where UPnP leases never expire: If not click ‘clear all session’ in web GUI port forward exist idefinitely. Should they not expire at some point?

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                      jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
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                      Locking this as the core problem here is solved.

                      If you have an issue with UPnP in your specific environment with the fix in place, please start a new thread with the details.

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