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[WORKAROUND] Unable to update and package install (ERROR: It was not possible to identify which pfSense kernel is installed)

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    Sergei_Shablovsky @stephenw10
    last edited by May 14, 2022, 11:05 PM

    @stephenw10

    May be some issue with SSH keys? (Please look at the error description that I write above)...

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      Sergei_Shablovsky @stephenw10
      last edited by May 14, 2022, 11:29 PM

      @stephenw10 said in Unable to update and package install (ERROR: It was not possible to identify which pfSense kernel is installed):

      Ok what I expect here is that you install a 2.7 snapshot clean (new snaps should be available later today).
      Make sure that has connectivity as expected.
      Then restore the complete config file and it should pull in the required packages at first boot.

      If that's failing then something in the config file is breaking access to the pkg repo.

      Check the repo line itself matches, for 2.7 is should be:

      		<pkg_repo_conf_path>/usr/local/share/pfSense/pkg/repos/pfSense-repo-devel.conf</pkg_repo_conf_path>
      

      Checked double twice: all as You wrote.

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        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
        last edited by May 15, 2022, 3:34 AM

        It looks like something in the config you're restoring is causing it to brake the pkg repo such that it overwrites the existing pkgs and cannot replace them.
        I have failed to replicate it here restoring a backup from 2.7 into 2.7.

        Try testing a basic backup config made after the clean install. That restores OK for me so if that also fails for you it must somehow be in your environment.

        Steve

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          Sergei_Shablovsky @stephenw10
          last edited by May 15, 2022, 6:50 AM

          @stephenw10 said in Unable to update and package install (ERROR: It was not possible to identify which pfSense kernel is installed):

          It looks like something in the config you're restoring is causing it to brake the pkg repo such that it overwrites the existing pkgs and cannot replace them.

          I come to same conclusion. Because this I decide trying to restore from .xml backup file step-by-step (mean one category at a time), so we return to my 2-nd post in this tread (with the list of packages, please see it).

          I have failed to replicate it here restoring a backup from 2.7 into 2.7.

          Try testing a basic backup config made after the clean install. That restores OK for me so if that also fails for you it must somehow be in your environment.

          No, restoring the basic backup config was made successfully.

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            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
            last edited by May 15, 2022, 4:40 PM

            I still think the most likely thing here is pfBlocker. It can add aliases or Unbound lists that are unpopulated at first boot after a restore resulting in the firewall being unable to reach the pkg repo.

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              NollipfSense @Sergei_Shablovsky
              last edited by May 15, 2022, 6:30 PM

              @sergei_shablovsky said in Unable to update and package install (ERROR: It was not possible to identify which pfSense kernel is installed):

              What exactly a You mean? I download LATEST snapshot from official pfSense web

              Okay, sorry my bad, thought you were updating an earlier install.

              pfSense+ 23.09 Lenovo Thinkcentre M93P SFF Quadcore i7 dual Raid-ZFS 128GB-SSD 32GB-RAM PCI-Intel i350-t4 NIC, -Intel QAT 8950.
              pfSense+ 23.09 VM-Proxmox, Dell Precision Xeon-W2155 Nvme 500GB-ZFS 128GB-RAM PCIe-Intel i350-t4, Intel QAT-8950, P-cloud.

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                Sergei_Shablovsky @stephenw10
                last edited by May 15, 2022, 9:03 PM

                @stephenw10 said in Unable to update and package install (ERROR: It was not possible to identify which pfSense kernel is installed):

                I still think the most likely thing here is pfBlocker. It can add aliases or Unbound lists that are unpopulated at first boot after a restore resulting in the firewall being unable to reach the pkg repo.

                If so, how to ensure that exactly this are the source of problem?

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                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                  last edited by May 15, 2022, 9:41 PM

                  Remove pfBlocker and any associated rules and lists.
                  Make a new backup.
                  Restore that into a clean 2.7 install.

                  Steve

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                    Sergei_Shablovsky @stephenw10
                    last edited by May 15, 2022, 10:31 PM

                    @stephenw10 said in Unable to update and package install (ERROR: It was not possible to identify which pfSense kernel is installed):

                    Remove pfBlocker and any associated rules and lists.
                    Make a new backup.
                    Restore that into a clean 2.7 install.

                    You mean delete from .xml backup file?

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                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by May 16, 2022, 11:55 AM

                      You can try to do that but it would be very easy to miss something.

                      I mean remove the pfBlocker package from the 2.7 instance that is failing to see updates then take a new backup from that. Then try restoring that into a clean 2.7 install.

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                        Jane757 @stephenw10
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                          Sergei_Shablovsky @stephenw10
                          last edited by May 17, 2022, 10:30 PM

                          @stephenw10 said in Unable to update and package install (ERROR: It was not possible to identify which pfSense kernel is installed):

                          I mean remove the pfBlocker package from the 2.7 instance that is failing to see updates then take a new backup from that. Then try restoring that into a clean 2.7 install.

                          How to remove pfBlocker?

                          No any packages are visible as installed in System / Package Manager...

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                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                            last edited by May 17, 2022, 10:46 PM

                            If packages have been removed then try backing up that config and restoring it into a clean 2.7 install. You will need to manually add packages again but the config will still be there.

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                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                              last edited by May 18, 2022, 9:37 PM

                              Do you have RAM disks enabled in the config you're restoring?

                              If so you're probably hitting this: https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/13182

                              I managed to hit that earlier and it presents exactly as you are describing here.

                              Remove the config line that enables RAM disks and retest if you can:

                              <use_mfs_tmpvar></use_mfs_tmpvar>
                              

                              Reinstall 2.7 clean and restore the config again without ramdisks.

                              Steve

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                                Sergei_Shablovsky @stephenw10
                                last edited by May 20, 2022, 11:42 AM

                                @stephenw10 said in Unable to update and package install (ERROR: It was not possible to identify which pfSense kernel is installed):

                                Do you have RAM disks enabled in the config you're restoring?

                                Remove the config line that enables RAM disks and retest if you can:

                                <use_mfs_tmpvar></use_mfs_tmpvar>
                                

                                Thanks You for suggestions, Steve!

                                Please confirm, this string in /conf/config.xml are equally the RAM Disk Settings (Reboot to Apply Changes) item in System / Advanced / Miscellaneous, yes?

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                                  Sergei_Shablovsky @stephenw10
                                  last edited by Sergei_Shablovsky May 20, 2022, 11:51 AM May 20, 2022, 11:47 AM

                                  @stephenw10 said in Unable to update and package install (ERROR: It was not possible to identify which pfSense kernel is installed):

                                  Do you have RAM disks enabled in the config you're restoring?

                                  If so you're probably hitting this: https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/13182

                                  I managed to hit that earlier and it presents exactly as you are describing here.

                                  I make this (checked double twice):
                                  1.
                                  installing CE 2.7.X (current snapshot from 20220520) on bare metal server (with hw RAID1, physicaly 2 HD in mirror, logically 1 Virtual Device)
                                  ping, traceroute, pkg update/upgrade, NetGate servers resolved- all OK
                                  hw reboot
                                  2.
                                  restore from config.xml backup file (RAM disk ENABLED)
                                  hw reboot
                                  ping, traceroute, - OK
                                  NetGate servers resolving - OK
                                  pkg update/upgrade - NO

                                  If restoring from config.xml backup file with manually deleted <use_mfs_tmpvar></use_mfs_tmpvar> string, this error not happened.

                                  If restoring form config.xml where <use_mfs_tmpvar></use_mfs_tmpvar> exist, then hw reboot, then manually in editor or webGUI delete <use_mfs_tmpvar></use_mfs_tmpvar>, then hw reboot,- this error still persist.

                                  So now I'l waiting for a BUG fixing from NetGate Dev side...

                                  Thank You, Steve for patience and help!

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                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @Sergei_Shablovsky
                                    last edited by May 20, 2022, 12:18 PM

                                    @sergei_shablovsky said in Unable to update and package install (ERROR: It was not possible to identify which pfSense kernel is installed):

                                    If restoring form config.xml where <use_mfs_tmpvar></use_mfs_tmpvar> exist, then hw reboot, then manually in editor or webGUI delete <use_mfs_tmpvar></use_mfs_tmpvar>, then hw reboot,- this error still persist.

                                    That's expected because by that point the conflicy in /var has happened and the pkg db is lost. The workaround currently is to remove that line from the config before restoring it.

                                    Steve

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                                      Sergei_Shablovsky @stephenw10
                                      last edited by May 21, 2022, 1:55 AM

                                      @stephenw10
                                      Thank You, Steve!

                                      What about SSH Error that a describe before in this thread?

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                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                        last edited by May 21, 2022, 2:17 PM

                                        This?

                                        SSH KeyGen
                                        
                                         pfSense has started creating missing SSH keys. SSH Startup will be delayed. Please note that reloading the filter rules and changes will be delayed until this operation is completed.	@ 2022-05-01 12:55:10
                                        

                                        That's normal whenever new keys are created. Which until 22.01/2.6 was every install or config reset.

                                        Steve

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                                          Sergei_Shablovsky @stephenw10
                                          last edited by May 22, 2022, 1:46 AM

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