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can I connect the client that I created using the vm to the pfsense interface in virtualbox?

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    ezvink @stephenw10
    last edited by Jun 26, 2022, 1:43 AM

    @stephenw10

    can you give an example of the VM project, sir? I'm still confused to understand what you explained sir.

    excuse me sir

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      ezvink @stephenw10
      last edited by Jun 26, 2022, 1:46 AM

      @stephenw10
      from the screenshot I gave about my VM project, what should be changed sir? if you mind giving an example please tell me sir what to change from my VM project

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        Patch @ezvink
        last edited by Patch Jun 26, 2022, 2:41 AM Jun 26, 2022, 2:38 AM

        @ezvink said in can I connect the client that I created using the vm to the pfsense interface in virtualbox?:

        The topology I use is like this, sir.

        Your network topology looks strange to me

        • Why have you shown the cloud / internet coming directly to the client server?

        • Typically an attacker is internet based so both normal friendly and hostile internet access both go through the firewall.

        • Firewall rules and services such as snort / Suricate / pfBlockerNG are then used to separate friend from foe

        • Externally accessible servers may also be put on a separate (V)LAN to further control access from the relatively expose / at risk computers

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          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
          last edited by Jun 26, 2022, 9:08 PM

          I expect to see something like this:

          Screenshot from 2022-06-26 22-08-02.png

          Steve

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            ezvink @stephenw10
            last edited by Jun 27, 2022, 12:06 AM

            @stephenw10
            the network settings like this sir?

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              ezvink @Patch
              last edited by Jun 27, 2022, 12:08 AM

              @patch

              looks like I put it wrong, the internet/cloud should be above the firewall.
              if so how sir?

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                ezvink @ezvink
                last edited by Jun 27, 2022, 12:12 AM

                @ezvink
                if i use network settings like this one i can't access the web gui from pfsense sir.
                the host-only interface must be on adapter 2 and the internal network must be on adapter 3 @stephenw10

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                  Patch @ezvink
                  last edited by Patch Jun 27, 2022, 2:04 AM Jun 27, 2022, 1:59 AM

                  @ezvink said in can I connect the client that I created using the vm to the pfsense interface in virtualbox?:

                  i can't access the web gui from pfsense

                  pfsense should be accessed from a LAN.
                  The default settings with anti- lockout protection allows access from the default / fist LAN. For other internal LANs you need to explicitly add a firewall rule to allow GUI access to pfsense (port 443 from that lan to pfsense).

                  If you need WAN access to pfsense set up a secure link (VPN) first then use that.

                  See https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/config/advanced-admin.html

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                    ezvink @Patch
                    last edited by Jun 27, 2022, 2:39 AM

                    @patch
                    so I have to use a vpn so that the client can connect to pfsense? is that so sir?

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                      Patch @ezvink
                      last edited by Patch Jun 27, 2022, 12:29 PM Jun 27, 2022, 3:23 AM

                      @ezvink
                      Exposing pfsense GUI to the internet is a bad idea. If you need WAN access to pfsense GUI do it via a secure means such as VPN to the LAN side then use that.

                      To access the GUI from an interface other than the default LAN you need to add a firewall rule to allow such access.

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                        ezvink @Patch
                        last edited by Jun 27, 2022, 3:27 AM

                        @patch
                        means I have to add a firewall rule on the LAN so that I can secure the client network in pfsense?

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                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                          last edited by Jun 27, 2022, 11:47 AM

                          This is just a test setup so I would simply add a firewall rule on WAN to allow access to the webgui from the local WAN subnet.

                          I expect to see three VMs there and only pfSense VM to have two Network adapters.
                          But you appear to have 2 VMs only and 'lubuntu' has two Network Adapters. Is that the server or attacker?

                          Steve

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                            ezvink @stephenw10
                            last edited by Jun 27, 2022, 2:06 PM

                            @stephenw10
                            I was wrong sir, I will only add 1 adapter in the lubuntu VM

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                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                              last edited by Jun 27, 2022, 2:41 PM

                              And is that 'Lubuntu' VM the server or the attacker?

                              Where is the other host?

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                                ezvink @stephenw10
                                last edited by Jun 27, 2022, 2:59 PM

                                @stephenw10
                                VM lubuntu as server sir
                                my initial goal is for this lubuntu VM to be connected to pfsense first, sir so that i can secure the server using snort/suricata in pfsense

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                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                  last edited by Jun 27, 2022, 3:13 PM

                                  OK, so the attacker is somewhere external? Another host on your local network?

                                  That should be fine. The attacker in the diagram I drew is also a VM in VBox but connected via the bridged interface appears like any other host on the local network.

                                  Steve

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                                    ezvink @stephenw10
                                    last edited by Jun 27, 2022, 3:23 PM

                                    @stephenw10
                                    I followed the topology you made, sir, but the client and pfsense can't connect

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                                      ezvink @stephenw10
                                      last edited by Jun 27, 2022, 3:25 PM

                                      @stephenw10
                                      I'm confused there, why the client and pfsense can't connect, I'm confused there.
                                      what i want is i want client and pfsense to connect so sir.

                                      how to get client and pfsense connected?

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                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                        last edited by Jun 27, 2022, 3:53 PM

                                        By client you mean the 'lubuntu' VM?

                                        That now has just one NIC and it's setup as internal network?

                                        And the pfSense VM only has two NICs and the LAN NIC is configured as internal network also?

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                                          ezvink @stephenw10
                                          last edited by Jun 27, 2022, 3:58 PM

                                          @stephenw10
                                          Yes, sir, it's an Lubuntu VM.

                                          yes, that's right, the lubuntu VM I set up only has 1 adapter

                                          for VM pfsense has 3, 1 Bridge adapter, 2 Host-Only adapters, 3 Internal Network adapters

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