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    pfSense 22.05 breaks VLANS, restoring pfSense 22.01 fixes the issue

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    • stephenw10S
      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
      last edited by

      I can definitely look into this. I'm not aware of any issue with ix and vlans though.

      In fact I have one here and it's working fine:

      [22.05-RELEASE][admin@4100.stevew.lan]/root: ifconfig ix3.1001
ix3.1001: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 1500
	description: Guest
	options=600003<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,RXCSUM_IPV6,TXCSUM_IPV6>
	ether 90:ec:77:1f:8a:5f
	inet6 fe80::92ec:77ff:fe1f:8a5f%ix3.1001 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x10
	inet 10.101.0.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.101.0.255
	groups: vlan
	vlan: 1001 vlanpcp: 0 parent interface: ix3
	media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT <full-duplex,rxpause,txpause>)
	status: active
	nd6 options=21<PERFORMNUD,AUTO_LINKLOCAL>
[22.05-RELEASE][admin@4100.stevew.lan]/root: tcpdump -i ix3.1001
tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode
listening on ix3.1001, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 262144 bytes
01:55:37.636598 IP AP300.stevew.lan.55659 > ntp2.icolo.io.ntp: NTPv4, Client, length 48
01:55:37.773762 IP ntp2.icolo.io.ntp > AP300.stevew.lan.55659: NTPv4, Server, length 48
01:55:41.643175 ARP, Request who-has 10.101.0.1 tell AP300.stevew.lan, length 42
01:55:41.643193 ARP, Reply 10.101.0.1 is-at 90:ec:77:1f:8a:5f (oui Unknown), length 28

      Steve

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      • johnpozJ
        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @stephenw10
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        @stephenw10 and no promisc set either ;)

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        • stephenw10S
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
          last edited by

          Indeed, and it shouldn't need to be.

          Something hardware specific perhaps? That's the SoC NIC in a 4100.

          Steve

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            NRgia @stephenw10
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            @stephenw10 @johnpoz
            I appreciate your time guys.

            This is the board if it helps
            https://www.supermicro.com/en/products/motherboard/A2SDi-4C-HLN4F

            Should I provide a TCP dump on vlan interface or on the native interface ?
            I mean in my case ix2 or ix.20 ? Or both ?
            Thank you

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            • stephenw10S
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
              last edited by stephenw10

              Look on the VLAN. If there's nothing there look on the parent for the tagged traffic. Or just do both anyway!

              If you're doing that in the pfSense GUI be aware that you cannot (currently) apply filters when looking for tagged traffic. https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/13094

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                NRgia @stephenw10
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                @stephenw10 I will use your cli command

                tcpdump -i

                I see it spits a lot of info, I will try to paste relevant info like in your example.

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                  NRgia @stephenw10
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                  @stephenw10

                  This all I have:

                  
listening on ix2.20, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 262144 bytes
15:22:07.873050 ARP, Request who-has 192.168.10.56 tell 192.168.10.1, length 28
15:22:10.070379 IP 192.168.10.1.mdns > 224.0.0.251.mdns: 0 [2q] PTR (QM)? _%9E5E7C8F47989526C9BCD95D24084F6F0B27C5ED._sub._googlecast._tcp.local. PTR (QM)? _googlecast._tcp.local. (94)
15:22:10.071252 IP 192.168.10.1.mdns > 224.0.0.251.mdns: 0*- [0q] 4/0/0 PTR SHIELD-Android-TV-ee41442d2c14cc09fde82be16f84be32._googlecast._tcp.local., (Cache flush) A 172.18.0.14, (Cache flush) SRV ee41442d-2c14-cc09-fde8-2be16f84be32.local.:8009 0 0, (Cache flush) TXT "id=ee41442d2c14cc09fde82be16f84be32" "cd=3CABD325728E72997BA6735F95651E36" "rm=" "ve=05" "md=SHIELD Android TV" "ic=/setup/icon.png" "fn=SHIELD" "ca=463365" "st=0" "bs=FA8F14F198FB" "nf=1" "rs=" (356)
15:22:10.096988 ARP, Request who-has 192.168.10.60 tell 192.168.10.1, length 28
15:22:11.093740 ARP, Request who-has 192.168.10.60 tell 192.168.10.1, length 28
15:22:13.091847 ARP, Request who-has 192.168.10.60 tell 192.168.10.1, length 28
15:22:30.072687 IP 192.168.10.1.mdns > 224.0.0.251.mdns: 0 [2q] PTR (QM)? _%9E5E7C8F47989526C9BCD95D24084F6F0B27C5ED._sub._googlecast._tcp.local. PTR (QM)? _googlecast._tcp.local. (94)
15:22:30.073588 IP 192.168.10.1.mdns > 224.0.0.251.mdns: 0*- [0q] 4/0/0 PTR SHIELD-Android-TV-ee41442d2c14cc09fde82be16f84be32._googlecast._tcp.local., (Cache flush) A 172.18.0.14, (Cache flush) SRV ee41442d-2c14-cc09-fde8-2be16f84be32.local.:8009 0 0, (Cache flush) TXT "id=ee41442d2c14cc09fde82be16f84be32" "cd=3CABD325728E72997BA6735F95651E36" "rm=" "ve=05" "md=SHIELD Android TV" "ic=/setup/icon.png" "fn=SHIELD" "ca=463365" "st=0" "bs=FA8F14F198FB" "nf=1" "rs=" (356)
15:22:30.093361 ARP, Request who-has 192.168.10.60 tell 192.168.10.1, length 28
15:22:31.091257 ARP, Request who-has 192.168.10.60 tell 192.168.10.1, length 28
15:22:33.095748 ARP, Request who-has 192.168.10.60 tell 192.168.10.1, length 28
15:22:37.097207 ARP, Request who-has 192.168.10.60 tell 192.168.10.1, length 28
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                  • johnpozJ
                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @NRgia
                    last edited by johnpoz

                    @nrgia make sure you add -e on tcpdump or it won't spit out vlan tag info

                    but isn't that 192.168.10 your vlan 20?

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by

                      Yeah, so that looks expected for a dump inside the VLAN. Except there's only outbound traffic.

                      So run tcpdump -e -i ix2.20 and see if the tagged traffic is arriving.

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                        NRgia @johnpoz
                        last edited by NRgia

                        @johnpoz @stephenw10

                        Yes 192.168.10.1 is vlan 20

                        Here you go:

                        ]/root: tcpdump -i ix2.20 -e
tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode
listening on ix2.20, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 262144 bytes
15:40:03.507991 ac:1f:6b:45:fa:8a (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype ARP (0x0806), length 42: Request who-has 192.168.10.60 tell 192.168.10.1, length 28
15:40:03.518434 ac:1f:6b:45:fa:8a (oui Unknown) > 01:00:5e:00:00:fb (oui Unknown), ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 136: 192.168.10.1.mdns > 224.0.0.251.mdns: 0 [2q] PTR (QM)? _%9E5E7C8F47989526C9BCD95D24084F6F0B27C5ED._sub._googlecast._tcp.local. PTR (QM)? _googlecast._tcp.local. (94)
15:40:04.505932 ac:1f:6b:45:fa:8a (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype ARP (0x0806), length 42: Request who-has 192.168.10.60 tell 192.168.10.1, length 28
15:40:04.508145 ac:1f:6b:45:fa:8a (oui Unknown) > 01:00:5e:00:00:fb (oui Unknown), ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 136: 192.168.10.1.mdns > 224.0.0.251.mdns: 0 [2q] PTR (QM)? _%9E5E7C8F47989526C9BCD95D24084F6F0B27C5ED._sub._googlecast._tcp.local. PTR (QM)? _googlecast._tcp.local. (94)
15:40:04.509221 ac:1f:6b:45:fa:8a (oui Unknown) > 01:00:5e:00:00:fb (oui Unknown), ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 398: 192.168.10.1.mdns > 224.0.0.251.mdns: 0*- [0q] 4/0/0 PTR SHIELD-Android-TV-ee41442d2c14cc09fde82be16f84be32._googlecast._tcp.local., (Cache flush) A 172.18.0.14, (Cache flush) SRV ee41442d-2c14-cc09-fde8-2be16f84be32.local.:8009 0 0, (Cache flush) TXT "id=ee41442d2c14cc09fde82be16f84be32" "cd=3CABD325728E72997BA6735F95651E36" "rm=" "ve=05" "md=SHIELD Android TV" "ic=/setup/icon.png" "fn=SHIELD" "ca=463365" "st=0" "bs=FA8F14F198FB" "nf=1" "rs=" (356)
15:40:05.510287 ac:1f:6b:45:fa:8a (oui Unknown) > 01:00:5e:00:00:fb (oui Unknown), ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 136: 192.168.10.1.mdns > 224.0.0.251.mdns: 0 [2q] PTR (QM)? _%9E5E7C8F47989526C9BCD95D24084F6F0B27C5ED._sub._googlecast._tcp.local. PTR (QM)? _googlecast._tcp.local. (94)
15:40:05.511240 ac:1f:6b:45:fa:8a (oui Unknown) > 01:00:5e:00:00:fb (oui Unknown), ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 398: 192.168.10.1.mdns > 224.0.0.251.mdns: 0*- [0q] 4/0/0 PTR SHIELD-Android-TV-ee41442d2c14cc09fde82be16f84be32._googlecast._tcp.local., (Cache flush) A 172.18.0.14, (Cache flush) SRV ee41442d-2c14-cc09-fde8-2be16f84be32.local.:8009 0 0, (Cache flush) TXT "id=ee41442d2c14cc09fde82be16f84be32" "cd=3CABD325728E72997BA6735F95651E36" "rm=" "ve=05" "md=SHIELD Android TV" "ic=/setup/icon.png" "fn=SHIELD" "ca=463365" "st=0" "bs=FA8F14F198FB" "nf=1" "rs=" (356)
15:40:05.526062 ac:1f:6b:45:fa:8a (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype ARP (0x0806), length 42: Request who-has 192.168.10.60 tell 192.168.10.1, length 28
15:40:06.506694 ac:1f:6b:45:fa:8a (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype ARP (0x0806), length 42: Request who-has 192.168.10.60 tell 192.168.10.1, length 28
15:40:07.530222 ac:1f:6b:45:fa:8a (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype ARP (0x0806), length 42: Request who-has 192.168.10.60 tell 192.168.10.1, length 28
15:40:10.516671 ac:1f:6b:45:fa:8a (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype ARP (0x0806), length 42: Request who-has 192.168.10.60 tell 192.168.10.1, length 28
^C
11 packets captured
11 packets received by filter
0 packets dropped by kernel
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                          NRgia @stephenw10
                          last edited by

                          @stephenw10

                          And with tcpdump -e -i ix2.20

                          ]/root: tcpdump -e -i ix2.20
tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode
listening on ix2.20, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 262144 bytes
15:45:48.622767 ac:1f:6b:45:fa:8a (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype ARP (0x0806), length 42: Request who-has 192.168.10.60 tell 192.168.10.1, length 28
15:46:05.588374 ac:1f:6b:45:fa:8a (oui Unknown) > 01:00:5e:00:00:fb (oui Unknown), ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 136: 192.168.10.1.mdns > 224.0.0.251.mdns: 0 [2q] PTR (QM)? _%9E5E7C8F47989526C9BCD95D24084F6F0B27C5ED._sub._googlecast._tcp.local. PTR (QM)? _googlecast._tcp.local. (94)
15:46:05.589317 ac:1f:6b:45:fa:8a (oui Unknown) > 01:00:5e:00:00:fb (oui Unknown), ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 398: 192.168.10.1.mdns > 224.0.0.251.mdns: 0*- [0q] 4/0/0 PTR SHIELD-Android-TV-ee41442d2c14cc09fde82be16f84be32._googlecast._tcp.local., (Cache flush) A 172.18.0.14, (Cache flush) SRV ee41442d-2c14-cc09-fde8-2be16f84be32.local.:8009 0 0, (Cache flush) TXT "id=ee41442d2c14cc09fde82be16f84be32" "cd=3CABD325728E72997BA6735F95651E36" "rm=" "ve=05" "md=SHIELD Android TV" "ic=/setup/icon.png" "fn=SHIELD" "ca=463365" "st=0" "bs=FA8F14F198FB" "nf=1" "rs=" (356)
15:46:05.619590 ac:1f:6b:45:fa:8a (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype ARP (0x0806), length 42: Request who-has 192.168.10.60 tell 192.168.10.1, length 28
15:46:06.623982 ac:1f:6b:45:fa:8a (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype ARP (0x0806), length 42: Request who-has 192.168.10.60 tell 192.168.10.1, length 28
15:46:08.616921 ac:1f:6b:45:fa:8a (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype ARP (0x0806), length 42: Request who-has 192.168.10.60 tell 192.168.10.1, length 28
15:46:18.970438 ac:1f:6b:45:fa:8a (oui Unknown) > 01:00:5e:00:00:fb (oui Unknown), ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 82: 192.168.10.1.mdns > 224.0.0.251.mdns: 0 PTR (QM)? _googlezone._tcp.local. (40)
15:46:18.970617 ac:1f:6b:45:fa:8a (oui Unknown) > 01:00:5e:00:00:fb (oui Unknown), ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 119: 192.168.10.1.mdns > 224.0.0.251.mdns: 0 SRV (QM)? ee41442d-2c14-cc09-fde8-2be16f84be32._googlezone._tcp.local. (77)
15:46:18.970973 ac:1f:6b:45:fa:8a (oui Unknown) > 01:00:5e:00:00:fb (oui Unknown), ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 252: 192.168.10.1.mdns > 224.0.0.251.mdns: 0*- [0q] 4/0/0 PTR ee41442d-2c14-cc09-fde8-2be16f84be32._googlezone._tcp.local., (Cache flush) A 172.18.0.14, (Cache flush) SRV ee41442d-2c14-cc09-fde8-2be16f84be32.local.:10001 1100 0, (Cache flush) TXT "id=3CABD325728E72997BA6735F95651E36" "UDS" (210)
^C
9 packets captured
9 packets received by filter
0 packets dropped by kernel
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                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                            last edited by

                            Sorry I meant: tcpdump -e -i ix2

                            On the parent interface dircetly

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                              NRgia @stephenw10
                              last edited by NRgia

                              @stephenw10 said in pfSense 22.05 breaks VLANS, restoring pfSense 22.01 fixes the issue:

                              tcpdump -e -i ix2

                              15:49:59.310577 d8:0d:17:4e:7a:13 (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype RRCP (0x8899), length 60: d8:0d:17:4e:7a:13 (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, RRCP-0x25 query
15:49:57.147272 28:6d:97:7f:bb:0c (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 68: vlan 0, p 0, ethertype 802.1Q, vlan 20, p 0, ethertype ARP, Request who-has Sperry.Blueshift tell 169.254.216.169, length 46
15:49:57.248033 00:04:4b:ba:35:05 (oui Unknown) > ac:1f:6b:45:fa:8a (oui Unknown), ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 376: Shield.Blueshift.39344 > fra02s19-in-f3.1e100.net.http: Flags [P.], seq 3325661723:3325662033,
ack 288699136, win 685, options [nop,nop,TS val 644858214 ecr 3014227199], length 310: HTTP: HEAD /generate_204 HTTP/1.1
15:49:57.278408 ac:1f:6b:45:fa:8a (oui Unknown) > 00:04:4b:ba:35:05 (oui Unknown), ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 149: fra02s19-in-f3.1e100.net.http > Shield.Blueshift.39344: Flags [P.], seq 1:84, ack 310, win 399,
options [nop,nop,TS val 3014287261 ecr 644858214], length 83: HTTP: HTTP/1.1 204 No Content
15:49:57.278930 00:04:4b:ba:35:05 (oui Unknown) > ac:1f:6b:45:fa:8a (oui Unknown), ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 66: Shield.Blueshift.39344 > fra02s19-in-f3.1e100.net.http: Flags [.], ack 84, win 685,
options [nop,nop,TS val 644858222 ecr 3014287261], length 0
15:49:57.308952 d8:0d:17:4e:7a:13 (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype RRCP (0x8899), length 60: d8:0d:17:4e:7a:13 (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, RRCP-0x25 query
15:49:57.472278 28:6d:97:7f:bb:0c (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 598: vlan 0, p 0, ethertype 802.1Q, vlan 20, p 0, ethertype IPv4, 0.0.0.0.bootpc > 255.255.255.255.bootps: BOOTP/DHCP,
Request from 28:6d:97:7f:bb:0c (oui Unknown), length 548
15:49:58.187286 28:6d:97:7f:bb:0c (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 68: vlan 0, p 0, ethertype 802.1Q, vlan 20, p 0, ethertype ARP, Request who-has Sperry.Blueshift tell 169.254.216.169, length 46
15:49:58.297476 08:36:c9:2a:16:e7 (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype RRCP (0x8899), length 60: 08:36:c9:2a:16:e7 (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, RRCP-0x23 query
15:49:58.309782 d8:0d:17:4e:7a:13 (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype RRCP (0x8899), length 60: d8:0d:17:4e:7a:13 (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, RRCP-0x25 query
15:49:58.596361 cc:40:d0:52:32:7d (oui Unknown) > 01:80:c2:00:00:40 (oui Unknown), ethertype Slow Protocols (0x8809), length 60: unknown (136), length 46
        0x0000:  880f 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
        0x0010:  0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
        0x0020:  0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
15:49:59.310577 d8:0d:17:4e:7a:13 (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype RRCP (0x8899), length 60: d8:0d:17:4e:7a:13 (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, RRCP-0x25 query

                              If it's not enough, tell me what to "grep" for, I dumped it to a file, due to too much lines.

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                              • stephenw10S
                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                last edited by stephenw10

                                Hmm, so still only outgoing packets. At least as far as tcpdump can see.

                                Are you able to pcap on something upstream to see the tagged traffic that should be arriving there?

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                                  NRgia @stephenw10
                                  last edited by NRgia

                                  @stephenw10
                                  Can you give me an example, please.
                                  I don't have Wireshark installed.
                                  I found it, it's in the UI, Packet capture

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                                  • johnpozJ
                                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @NRgia
                                    last edited by johnpoz

                                    @nrgia said in pfSense 22.05 breaks VLANS, restoring pfSense 22.01 fixes the issue:

                                    length 68: vlan 0, p 0, ethertype 802.1Q, vlan 20

                                    That seems odd.. why is showing vlan 0 and vlan 20?

                                    What is this guy 28:6d:97:7f:bb:0c, is that pfsense

                                    That isn't outbound from pfsense.. Your other post shows ix2 as ether ac:1f:6b:45:fa:8a

                                    A mac vendor lookup shows it as SAMJIN Co., Ltd.? Never heard of that company.
                                    Seems "The Company provides its products mainly to Samsung Electronics."

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                                    • stephenw10S
                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @johnpoz
                                      last edited by

                                      @johnpoz said in pfSense 22.05 breaks VLANS, restoring pfSense 22.01 fixes the issue:

                                      That seems odd.. why is showing vlan 0 and vlan 20

                                      Mmm, that is a very good point! Like it's QinQ.

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                                        NRgia @johnpoz
                                        last edited by NRgia

                                        @johnpoz If you must know 28:6d:97:7f:bb:0c is a Samsung Smarthings v3 Hub which is on vlan 20 :) It screams for Internet connection, but it doesn't get it :)

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                                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @NRgia
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                                          @nrgia but showing vlan 0 with a p0? But that is inbound to pfsense.. I don't have a lot of experience with setting priority on vlan 0, etc. But that could be maybe why pfsense not actually seeing the tag 20?

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                                            NRgia @johnpoz
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                                            @johnpoz
                                            I don't know what to say, but pfSense 22.01 see it just fine.
                                            The native LAN is working just fine, vlan 20 and vlan 30 are dead.

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