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Solved: ExpressVPN connection error Data channel cipher negotiation failed (no shared cipher)

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    4o4rh @4o4rh
    last edited by Jun 21, 2023, 7:47 AM

    @gwaitsi expressvpn support say i need to remove the keysize from the ovpn file. sounds sus to me, why after all these years i suddently need to do that

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      Dredex
      last edited by Jun 21, 2023, 1:28 PM

      Same problem, changed to AES-256-GCM and its working.
      Thanks

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        Gertjan @4o4rh
        last edited by Jun 21, 2023, 2:11 PM

        @gwaitsi said in Solved: ExpressVPN connection error Data channel cipher negotiation failed (no shared cipher):

        My ExpressVPN connection went down yesterday,

        What ? Where ?
        Nothing happened, as I was connected all day.

        Or .... do you use an end point that I'm not using ?

        Americas
        
            USA - New York
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            Canada - Toronto
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            USA - Miami
            USA - Los Angeles - 3
            USA - New Jersey - 1
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            Netherlands - Amsterdam
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            France - Paris - 1
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        As far as I remember, they use AES-256-CBC since 2019 ( ?) ....

        dev tun
        fast-io
        persist-key
        persist-tun
        nobind
        remote the-one-and-only-main-expressvpn-pop-ca-version-2.expressnetw.com 1195
        
        remote-random
        pull
        comp-lzo no
        tls-client
        verify-x509-name Server name-prefix
        ns-cert-type server
        key-direction 1
        route-method exe
        route-delay 2
        tun-mtu 1500
        fragment 1300
        mssfix 1200
        verb 3
        cipher AES-256-CBC
        keysize 256
        auth SHA512
        sndbuf 524288
        rcvbuf 524288
        auth-user-pass
        

        @gwaitsi said in Solved: ExpressVPN connection error Data channel cipher negotiation failed (no shared cipher):

        to the various guides (inc their own)

        They make guides 😲 ???
        Never trust guides from 'other' sources. Take them always as 'maybe' correct, 'probably wrong'.
        I go to https://www.expressvpn.com/setup#manual - click on the country I like, and they send my the ovpn file for that pop / country.

        With this file, I set up the pfSense client.

        I don't now if this is a official guide (as expressvpn will never [for very understandable reasons] support router X or Y or pfSense).
        https://www.expressvpn.com/support/vpn-setup/pfsense-with-expressvpn-openvpn/

        That guide says : AES-256-CBC - as that is what you've found in the opvn file.

        True : maybe you are using a expressvpn location they forgot to update ;)

        No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
        Edit : and where are the logs ??

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          4o4rh @Gertjan
          last edited by 4o4rh Jun 21, 2023, 2:40 PM Jun 21, 2023, 2:37 PM

          @Gertjan my end point was in germany and was working for many, many moons. all of a sudden there was 100% packet loss despite no changes on my side. tried luxembourg and netherlands. same thing. expressvpn support assured me, they made no changes. purely coincidential, to make it work one has to change the encryption type.....right..... "maybe you are using a expressvpn location they forgot to update" - it was using AES-256-CBC for years. that is what is in their opvn config, but now all of a sudden i have to use AES-256-GCM to get a connection. that is something changed on expressvpn, not on the client

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            vlurk @4o4rh
            last edited by Jun 23, 2023, 7:27 PM

            Same issue here, same fix (replace AES-256-CBC by AES-256-GCM).

            The funny thing is.... I redownloaded the manual config file for the server that I use and the config statement "cipher AES-256-CBC" was still there. The config they provide is broken, and it might be the case for more than a few servers.

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              Gertjan @4o4rh
              last edited by Jun 24, 2023, 6:28 AM

              @gwaitsi

              I guess, as I was using this :

              57755cce-8822-41f7-8837-3f7a2434c12a-image.png

              so : 'CBC' or 'GCM' : it will work it out by itself ....

              Most North Europe ovpn files use "cipher AES-256-CBC" right now.

              No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
              Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                polo2883 @Gertjan
                last edited by Jun 26, 2023, 1:36 AM

                Changed my encryption to AES-256-GCM and I am still getting the error:
                AUTH: Received control message: AUTH_FAILED,Data channel cipher negotiation failed (no shared cipher)
                SIGUSR1[soft,auth-failure] received, process restarting

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                  shdwkeeper @4o4rh
                  last edited by shdwkeeper Jun 26, 2023, 4:14 AM Jun 26, 2023, 4:13 AM

                  @gwaitsi Found this on Expressvpn site: How secure is ExpressVPN encryption?
                  Control-channel encryption
                  To ensure the integrity and confidentiality of encrypted data even on low-powered hardware, ExpressVPN uses AES-256-GCM. AES is one of the most widely used symmetric encryption standards. The 256 refers to the fixed size of each encrypted block, 256 bits. GCM (Galois/Counter Mode) allows your computer to encrypt multiple packages at once, ensuring that your connection never hangs even for a short moment.

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                    4o4rh @shdwkeeper
                    last edited by Jun 26, 2023, 6:26 AM

                    @shdwkeeper must be new, cause i was using CBC for years, until 6 days ago when the connection just dropped. they must be deploying one because all the profiles still have CBC. Anyways, i'm working, so i'm happy

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                      Gertjan @4o4rh
                      last edited by Jun 26, 2023, 6:38 AM

                      If you use "OpenVPN" : take note of this post : HEADS UP: OpenVPN deprecating shared key mode, requires TLS, deprecating cipher selection

                      So, you should have :

                      0ce54bff-62c8-4995-9d1d-36d351f1421d-image.png

                      the first 3 because of : "that's what OpenVPN proposes".
                      and the fourth : because ExpressVPN needs it. Or was needing it before, and now uses some 'GCM'.

                      Clear is : 'CBC' will get phased out.

                      ExpressVPN most probably uses the same publicly available OpenVPN server code, and 'adapted' it for their own needs.

                      No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                      Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                        shdwkeeper @4o4rh
                        last edited by Jun 26, 2023, 2:00 PM

                        @gwaitsi
                        I agree I was working for years untill this last week and it went down, than I found this post and started researching it. Once I made this change it started working. So they need to update their documentation.

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                          shdwkeeper @Gertjan
                          last edited by Jun 26, 2023, 2:02 PM

                          @Gertjan
                          So your saying add all of these and use GCM as the fallback as well?

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                            Gertjan @vlurk
                            last edited by Jun 26, 2023, 2:08 PM

                            @shdwkeeper said in Solved: ExpressVPN connection error Data channel cipher negotiation failed (no shared cipher):

                            So your saying add all of these and use GCM as the fallback as well?

                            It works for me.

                            @vlurk said in Solved: ExpressVPN connection error Data channel cipher negotiation failed (no shared cipher):

                            The funny thing is.... I redownloaded the manual config file for the server that I use and the config statement "cipher AES-256-CBC" was still there. The config they provide is broken, and it might be the case for more than a few servers.

                            Exact. When you download a ovpn file for a typical country/place, is still says '....CBC' as the encryption key.
                            I'm using one right now for France => Paris.

                            When I connect :

                            Control Channel: TLSv1.3, cipher TLSv1.3 TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384, peer certificate: 2048 bit RSA, signature: RSA-SHA256
                            

                            and you can clearly see the GCM - non CBC.

                            That's why I said " add them all and let them figure it out among client and server "

                            No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                            Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                              Pippin @Gertjan
                              last edited by Jun 26, 2023, 6:18 PM

                              @Gertjan said in Solved: ExpressVPN connection error Data channel cipher negotiation failed (no shared cipher):

                              Control Channel: TLSv1.3, cipher TLSv1.3 TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384, peer certificate: 2048 bit RSA, signature: RSA-SHA256

                              That's the control channel ;)
                              .
                              Data channel is this one:

                              2023-06-26 11:08:24 us=684115 Outgoing Data Channel: Cipher 'AES-256-GCM' initialized with 256 bit key
                              2023-06-26 11:08:24 us=684160 Incoming Data Channel: Cipher 'AES-256-GCM' initialized with 256 bit key
                              

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