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KEA DHCP missing "Register DHCP leases in DNS Resolver..."

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    maphilli14
    last edited by Jun 7, 2024, 6:04 PM

    I somehow got burned by this too. No, I do not read release notes, I just trust that the latest and greatest firmware protects my family's network. I had some performance issues on my ISP so rebooted everything to try to fix and it took me several hours to get to a root cause. I am sad, but happy to have it all back up and running nicely. Next time I will be more leery!

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      tagwolf
      last edited by Jul 25, 2024, 1:30 AM

      It's been well over a year right? Still waiting. I would be very surprised if this was that hard to integrate considering half the code is already written for the DHCP half.

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        ldaponte
        last edited by ldaponte Jul 26, 2024, 10:34 PM Jul 26, 2024, 10:33 PM

        Glad I found this thread. I was trying to figure out why DHCP leases weren't resolvable on my home network when they once were. Forgot that I had cut over to KEA DHCP days ago. Reverted to ISC DHCP and checked "Ignore Deprecation Warning" - all better now.

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          bson
          last edited by Sep 11, 2024, 4:41 PM

          I too followed the EOL suggestion and switch - and this is a total mess. How can I back this change out, I see nothing to switch back!!!

          How can you POSSIBLY suggest this dysfunctional nonsense as an alternative? You've had this out for what, almost a year now - and it's still totally broken.

          CAN YOU FIX YOUR BROKEN SH*T?!

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            SteveITS Galactic Empire @bson
            last edited by Sep 11, 2024, 4:53 PM

            @bson https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/releases/2-7-1.html#kea-dhcp-server-feature-preview-now-available

            "Administrators can easily switch between ISC DHCPD and Kea by navigating to System > Advanced, Networking tab and changing the new Server Backend setting in the DHCP Options section."

            The wording in pfSense about ISC DHCP is a bit misleading but Kea is in "feature preview" a.k.a. alpha/beta/whatever.

            Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
            When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
            Upvote 👍 helpful posts!

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              cmcdonald Netgate Developer @bson
              last edited by Sep 11, 2024, 5:54 PM

              The current goal is to have Kea at feature parity with ISC DHCP by the end of the year, then one release with Kea being optional, another release with Kea being the default for new installs, and finally another release to completely remove ISC DHCP entirely.

              Need help fast? https://www.netgate.com/support

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                bson @SteveITS
                last edited by bson Sep 11, 2024, 6:21 PM Sep 11, 2024, 6:21 PM

                @SteveITS I switched it back but it still wouldn't resolve. I don't know what fixed it, perhaps DNS caches just had to expire, or my poking around in DDNS options (we don't use DDNS) fixed it. I think I enabled the DDNS host registration option without overall enabling DDNS. It's not clear if that has any effect or not, but after a while things were working again. Famous last words! Without it being at feature parity I think it's fine to as for testing feedback, but there shouldn't be a nag about it being deprecated. This suggests a need to migrate. It should also warn about a lack of feature parity, IMO.

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                  bson @bson
                  last edited by Sep 11, 2024, 6:28 PM

                  Oh, I think I know why it took a while to return to normal: the migration wipes the existing leases, and it takes a while for clients to discover this and renew. Until that happens the client identifiers aren't going to be injected into DNS.

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                    cmcdonald Netgate Developer @bson
                    last edited by cmcdonald Sep 11, 2024, 6:33 PM Sep 11, 2024, 6:32 PM

                    @bson said in KEA DHCP missing "Register DHCP leases in DNS Resolver...":

                    This suggests a need to migrate. It should also warn about a lack of feature parity, IMO.

                    That's fair. The current warning definitely has a "the sky is falling" tone to it, which it certainly isn't.

                    Need help fast? https://www.netgate.com/support

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                      m.d.frederiksen @NickyDoes
                      last edited by Sep 11, 2024, 10:12 PM

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                        jkiel @cmcdonald
                        last edited by jkiel Sep 24, 2024, 7:40 PM Sep 24, 2024, 7:38 PM

                        @cmcdonald said in KEA DHCP missing "Register DHCP leases in DNS Resolver...":

                        That's fair. The current warning definitely has a "the sky is falling" tone to it, which it certainly isn't.

                        This. 100% this. The warning gives the impression that one should update ASAP and gives zero indication that the replacement isn't feature complete.

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                          softwareplumber
                          last edited by Oct 30, 2024, 9:15 PM

                          Still an issue.

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                            SteveITS Galactic Empire @softwareplumber
                            last edited by Oct 30, 2024, 10:05 PM

                            @softwareplumber said in KEA DHCP missing "Register DHCP leases in DNS Resolver...":

                            Still an issue.

                            https://www.netgate.com/blog/improvements-to-kea-dhcp

                            Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
                            When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
                            Upvote 👍 helpful posts!

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                              uneventfullogs
                              last edited by Nov 4, 2024, 11:06 PM

                              There is no longer a way to revert back in the GUI, so my setup is broken.

                              It should not have been released without better migration testing.

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                                juanzelli @uneventfullogs
                                last edited by juanzelli Nov 4, 2024, 11:22 PM Nov 4, 2024, 11:20 PM

                                @uneventfullogs I believe you should be able to revert in System->Advanced->Networking. At least, that's where I've been able to do it in the past.

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                                Netgate 4100 and HPE InstantOn network at home

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                                  BruceX @noloader
                                  last edited by Dec 8, 2024, 4:07 AM

                                  @noloader Thanks, just got bit by this and lost a day trying to figure out why a local server's new IP wasn't being recognized. I finally restarted the dns forwarder (to pihole) and I lost everything (local names) and my day trying to track down "what I did" before remembering yesterday I had responded to the deprecation warning.

                                  It is now a year later and this problem persists. This is my wake up call to switch to the other guy sometime this coming year.

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                                    4o4rh @BruceX
                                    last edited by Dec 8, 2024, 8:17 AM

                                    @BruceX I switched to kea after the 24.11 upgrade and don't have any problems. Before I had to revert to ISC per above.

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                                      BruceX @4o4rh
                                      last edited by Dec 9, 2024, 2:07 AM

                                      @4o4rh I've not used the patches package before but I interpret your statement as applying these patches also fixes this dns not registering problem.

                                      I'll have to wait awhile before having the courage to apply these after the last 'fix' I applied lost me a few days to debugging and fixing my system.

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                                        pvk1 @BruceX
                                        last edited by Dec 9, 2024, 8:11 AM

                                        @BruceX I have now enabled the KEA DHCP server. On settings I checked both "Enable DNS registration" en "Enable early DNS registration". All seems to work now. The only thing is you still need to provide an IP address of the NTP server rather than a domain name.

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                                          4o4rh @pvk1
                                          last edited by Dec 9, 2024, 12:33 PM

                                          @pvk1 do you mean in the ntp server? i don't have this problem. I am using normal country level ntp pools

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