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IGMP IPV4 endless log-messages / rules not working :(

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    dennypage @Gertjan
    last edited by May 8, 2024, 4:12 PM

    @Gertjan FWIW, I would not recommend adding Allow IP options to a pass all rule. I would restrict this to IGMP.

    There are good reasons that firewalls drop packets with IP options by default.

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      louis2 @dennypage
      last edited by May 8, 2024, 4:33 PM

      @dennypage @Gertjan @stephenw10

      It does not work here also with IP-options set! Let me start with that.
      However:

      That a pass rule can behaves like a block rule, "more more than bizar" !!

      IP-options is necessary for a match, than the rule without IP-options, should simply not match should not do any thing !!
      Letting the rule change in a block rule is simply bizar !!!!!

      But even it I put the IGMP pass rule with options set, put as very first rule in floating table, it does not work!

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        Gertjan @louis2
        last edited by May 8, 2024, 4:35 PM

        @louis2 said in IGMP IPV4 endless log-messages / rules not working :(:

        "more more than bizar" !!

        I know, I know.
        I'm like you : wanted to stop my logs being filled up with 'useless' info.
        This trick did it.

        No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
        Edit : and where are the logs ??

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          louis2 @Gertjan
          last edited by May 8, 2024, 4:40 PM

          @Gertjan

          Gertjan, in my personal vision, I am just as concerned about threats from inside my network as for threats coming from the internet.

          So my rule sets are very strict also for traffic leaving the network!

          • for security reasons first
          • blocking the option that things are collected from the internet for bad, commercial or good reasons ....
          • for privacy reasons

          So I would never ever define a rule like "every thing outgoing allowed.
          Next to that the rules allow all subsets to freely communicate with each other. No way !! Never !!

          My opinion of course!

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            dennypage @louis2
            last edited by May 8, 2024, 4:44 PM

            @louis2 said in IGMP IPV4 endless log-messages / rules not working :(:

            It does not work here also with IP-options set! Let me start with that.

            Please post screen shots of your rules.

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              dennypage @louis2
              last edited by May 8, 2024, 4:47 PM

              @louis2 said in IGMP IPV4 endless log-messages / rules not working :(:

              IP-options is necessary for a match, than the rule without IP-options, should simply not match should not do any thing !!

              To be clear, IP options are not matchable like protocols, addresses, ports, etc.

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                louis2 @dennypage
                last edited by May 8, 2024, 6:01 PM

                @dennypage

                I think I fixed it. The following way:

                1. I did add as first rule for the vlan:
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                2. I did reset the states via Diagnostics / States / Rest States

                Just defining the rule, was not enough !!!

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                  dennypage @louis2
                  last edited by May 8, 2024, 6:05 PM

                  @louis2 Glad you got it working. Thank you for letting me know that you had to perform Reset States. That may help others.

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                    Gertjan @louis2
                    last edited by May 9, 2024, 7:08 AM

                    @louis2 said in IGMP IPV4 endless log-messages / rules not working :(:

                    So I would never ever define a rule like "every thing outgoing allowed.
                    Next to that the rules allow all subsets to freely communicate with each other. No way !! Never !!

                    I fully agree with that.
                    I've kept the default Netgate LAN firewall rules because I have the luxury of totally trusting all my LAN devices, I don't need to block something from going outside.
                    Beyond the devices, I can also trust the users that uses these devices. I'm lucky, probably.

                    Closing all destination ports, leaving open only port 53,80,443,110,143,995,992, 993, 143 doesn't give me more security, as 99% of all threads are downloaded by users over 443 (a web browser using https) or by mail, for example IMAP SSL, port 993, a mail client.

                    My LAN is my trusted network, and they could access to my other, less trusted networks, like a captive portal, or my server network. These networks can not access my trusted LAN.
                    My non trusted networks have devices I need to admin, like access points etc. I can access these from my LAN.

                    No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                    Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                      dennypage @Gertjan
                      last edited by May 9, 2024, 2:48 PM

                      @Gertjan In this case, it's a bit more than just passing ports. Allowing IP Options on a pass all rule opens your firewall to these options as well. IMO, you want to be very specific in the circumstance that you allow IP options.

                      I would have a preference to silently dropping all packets with IP options, including IGMP, rather than allowing all IP packets with options.

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                        Gertjan @dennypage
                        last edited by May 9, 2024, 3:31 PM

                        @dennypage said in IGMP IPV4 endless log-messages / rules not working :(:

                        you want to be very specific in the circumstance that you allow IP options.

                        I wanted to clean my logs. I've chosen the fast way out - not necessarily the best one.

                        No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                        Edit : and where are the logs ??

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