Is pfSense Community Edition abandoned?
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You are forgetting one very important thing when it comes to paid version and thats licence abuse. I had personal experience with this. I ordered several mini pc`s from aliexpress and all of them came with pfsense plus version already installed. Its because of "vendors" like that, we cant have nice things.
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@reberhar The project 'roadmap' via the official Redmine is a much more reliable way to track version progress than through speculative internet posts made mostly by people that aren't even aware the roadmap exists. A shiny, new 2.9 has even already been opened with nine whole issues! ;)
Nice feedback. I too feel a deep gratitude toward Netgate for continuing to (professionally) maintain the CE.
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@nimrod Hi Nimrod,
I wish you well with your 3rd party boxes.
I watched a review of those from Lawerence systems. This posting is kind of dated, but still it is good to take notice of it. Those boxes tend to have a high failure rate. I have spent many hours struggling with remote dual core celeron boxes that eventually failed.
I guess I don't understand why Netgate selling licenses to aliexpress is license abuse. Of course, they cannot be held responsible for the quality of other people's hardware.
Of course if the Chinese are installing pirated versions, that is a different story. Having lived in Mexico, it was common to see pirated versions of most of the Microsoft products. I suppose that kind of treatment might be happening to Netgate as well by the Chinese.
Most of us remember the theft of Motorola products, right down to the copying of their manuals.
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@tinfoilmatt Thanks, I will look at the roadmap.
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@tinfoilmatt Wow 95 percent.
I was looking at the github posts.
https://github.com/pfsense/pfsense/commits/master/
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@reberhar said in Is pfSense Community Edition abandoned?:
@nimrod Hi Nimrod,
I wish you well with your 3rd party boxes.
Thanks, but i didnt bought them for myself. They are for my customers that use them as proxmox hypervisors. As for me, i use Protectli hardware because they support coreboot bios and these devices have been solid for 6 years now. Top quality and zero issues.
I watched a review of those from Lawerence systems. This posting is kind of dated, but still it is good to take notice of it. Those boxes tend to have a high failure rate.
Cheap Chinese boxes like Topton die quck. Thats true. Just dont buy them. As for Tom, he was pretty vocal about Protectli devices and he said they die prematurely which is absolutely not true. And not only that, he said that Protectli devices are rebranded Qotoms which is also wrong.
I have spent many hours struggling with remote dual core celeron boxes that eventually failed.
Dont buy them. If you need good quality hardware go for Netgate. If you, like me, have troubles obtaining Netgate hardware, go for Protectli or Thomas Krenn. Stay away from anything else. Especially if they dont offer coreboot support.
I guess I don't understand why Netgate selling licenses to aliexpress is license abuse. Of course, they cannot be held responsible for the quality of other people's hardware.
You got it all wrong. Pfsense plus used to be free. You just register your device and boom. You have pfsense plus. But someone in China saw this Netgate generosity as business opportunity for a quick cash grab so they decided to sell pfsense plus appliances and they basically screw everyone including the customers that bought their garbage hardware. So Netgate was forced to pull the plug on free version of pfsense plus. Of course, horde of unhappy pfsense plus users started screaming GREED without knowing the full background because they are too lazy to read and verify. They just want free stuff.
Of course if the Chinese are installing pirated versions, that is a different story. Having lived in Mexico, it was common to see pirated versions of most of the Microsoft products. I suppose that kind of treatment might be happening to Netgate as well by the Chinese.
Most of us remember the theft of Motorola products, right down to the copying of their manuals.
Thats exactly what i meant when i said we cant have nice things.
@tinfoilmatt said in Is pfSense Community Edition abandoned?:
shiny, new 2.9 has even already been opened with nine whole issues! ;)Naah bro. 2.8 is the last CE version bro. Trust me bro. They are just paving the road for next year Aprils fools joke bro. Havent you heard bro, they are switching to linux bro. Pfsense CE is dead bro.
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@nimrod said in Is pfSense Community Edition abandoned?:
You got it all wrong. Pfsense plus used to be free. You just register your device and boom. You have pfsense plus. But someone in China saw this Netgate generosity as business opportunity for a quick cash grab so they decided to sell pfsense plus appliances and they basically screw everyone including the customers that bought their garbage hardware.
Wrong. I had one license that i forgot about that i have claimed and when i tried activating it after the plus version was no longer free, it did in fact upgrade but did not receive any updates. Asked the support about this and they confirmed that all free licenses are invalid now.
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@nimrod Thanks for the tips on the brands.
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@whytf said in Is pfSense Community Edition abandoned?:
@nimrod said in Is pfSense Community Edition abandoned?:
You got it all wrong. Pfsense plus used to be free. You just register your device and boom. You have pfsense plus. But someone in China saw this Netgate generosity as business opportunity for a quick cash grab so they decided to sell pfsense plus appliances and they basically screw everyone including the customers that bought their garbage hardware.
Wrong. I had one license that i forgot about that i have claimed and when i tried activating it after the plus version was no longer free, it did in fact upgrade but did not receive any updates. Asked the support about this and they confirmed that all free licenses are invalid now.
And what did i say ????
Please read my post again and try harder to understand what i said.
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@nimrod Hey Guys,
Is it really that important to be right?
You must both be steely eyed missle men to argue like you do.
