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    nopanic @johnpoz
    last edited by Dec 27, 2024, 3:46 PM

    @johnpoz thanks for your reply,

    yes you are correct. Im sure that the masks are okay, casue I checked with whois and ipcalc which gives me the correct masks!
    I also had a look to higher mask, I had the same suspicion as you. But I can not find such net.

    Do I have to do a new alias and copy step by step from old to new one if its running or not.
    Or are there other methods to debug this?

    thanks!
    Stefan

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      SteveITS Rebel Alliance @nopanic
      last edited by Dec 27, 2024, 3:47 PM

      @nopanic So you are hosting your own email server? I suggest:

      • use a third party spam filtering service, and only allow the service's IPs to connect to your mail server

      or

      • use pfBlocker and enable block lists such as Spamhaus and other PR1 feeds (the "top spammers" GeoIP list/page blocks entire countries, I suggest ignoring that part of the GUI)

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        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @nopanic
        last edited by johnpoz Dec 27, 2024, 4:00 PM Dec 27, 2024, 3:59 PM

        @nopanic said in network alias blocks more than defined:

        casue I checked with whois and ipcalc which gives me the correct masks!

        that doesn't mean your not blocking more than what you want to block..

        Whois can give a large block, but maybe the who you want to block is using just a portion of that.

        Please post up your alias and the block your seeing in the log for the IP.

        You can export your alias, and then attach the file.

        alias.jpg

        rfc1918.txt

        See my export of my rfc1918 alias as example.

        If pfsense is blocking per a rule you have with alias of networks - then the IP is in there.. So either you have a wrong mask or your blocking a larger network than what you want to block.

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          nopanic @johnpoz
          last edited by Dec 27, 2024, 4:24 PM

          @johnpoz
          okay
          thanks I attach the file.

          @SteveITS yes, my own mailserver which is very secure. The ip's are blocked on firewall....

          thanks!
          Stefan
          1_badguys_most_china_assholes.txt

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            nopanic @johnpoz
            last edited by Dec 27, 2024, 4:29 PM

            @johnpoz inthe attached file: china is beginninbg with inetnum in discription

            Thanks Stefan

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              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @nopanic
              last edited by Dec 27, 2024, 4:35 PM

              @nopanic and which specific IP is being blocked and logged that you feel is wrong?

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                nopanic @johnpoz
                last edited by Dec 27, 2024, 4:37 PM

                @johnpoz ex. the mailinglist server of debian:

                ;; ANSWER SECTION:
                bendel.debian.org. 600 IN A 82.195.75.100

                thanks
                Stefan

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                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @nopanic
                  last edited by johnpoz Dec 27, 2024, 5:09 PM Dec 27, 2024, 4:40 PM

                  @nopanic that is in your log? that 82.195.75.100 IP - just because that is what the A record and dns shows - doesn't mean that is the IP that actually sending email - please show the log where a specific IP was blocked.

                  there is no 82.x in that alias list you posted.

                  example: here are some IPs that were blocked by different rules I have with aliases

                  blocked.jpg

                  blocklogrules.jpg

                  Also notice that not allowed rule is a ! rule, so the stuff it blocks would be IPs that are NOT listed in the alias/table

                  edit2: dude - this entry would block that

                  64.0.0.0/2

                  Which would be this huge range that 82.x falls into
                  64.0.0.0 - 127.255.255.255

                  That for sure can not be correct..

                  You also have a 128.0.0.0/2 which is also huge
                  128.0.0.0 - 191.255.255.255

                  I think something went wrong why does the 64/2 show this for text?

                  64.0.0.0/2 inetnum: 58.56.0.0 - 58.59.127.255 netname:

                  These don't seem correct for sure

                  notright.jpg

                  edit3: just a quick scan, and you have lots of them in there that are way to big for what the text says it should be blocking

                  27.115.0.0/17 inetnum: 27.115.5.0 - 27.115.5.7 netname:

                  that /17 would block all ips between 27.115.0.0 - 27.115.127.255, not just what the text says 27.115.5.0 - 27.115.5.7

                  edit4: another one that is just huge compared to the text

                  36.192.0.0/11 inetnum: 36.212.0.0 - 36.215.255.255 netname:

                  36.192/11 would block 36.192.0.0 - 36.223.255.255, not that 36.212-215 range. If you wanted to block 36.212 to 36.215 that would be a 36.212.0.0/14 mask. not a 36.192/11

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                    nopanic @johnpoz
                    last edited by Dec 27, 2024, 5:01 PM

                    @johnpoz ahh okay thanks!!!

                    I attach the screenshot of the block:
                    fw-rule-blocking network-alias.png

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                      nopanic @johnpoz
                      last edited by Dec 27, 2024, 5:13 PM

                      @johnpoz

                      I get the inetnum from whois. ipcalc deaggrigate some nets so I have same discription ....

                      tia
                      Stefan

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                        SteveITS Rebel Alliance @nopanic
                        last edited by Dec 27, 2024, 5:19 PM

                        @nopanic 10.x.x.x is a private IP range...?

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                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @nopanic
                          last edited by johnpoz Dec 27, 2024, 5:23 PM Dec 27, 2024, 5:21 PM

                          @nopanic you might want to start over - there is a lot of wrong stuff in there for sure

                          8.0.0.0/8 net 8 Alibaba Cloud

                          Not sure how that is Alibaba Cloud, the 8/8 is owned by multiple different companies.

                          NetRange:       8.0.0.0 - 8.8.3.255
                          CIDR:           8.0.0.0/13, 8.8.0.0/22
                          Organization:   Level 3 Parent, LLC (LPL-141)
                          

                          I show

                          inetnum:        8.128.0.0 - 8.159.255.255
                          netname:        ALICLOUD
                          

                          So you can not block 8/8 without blocking a whole bunch of stuff you prob don't want to block.

                          edit: If you are wanting to block whole countries, etc. you might want to look into pfblocker as someone else mentioned.. It allows you to create aliases based on countries - so you could block china and korea, etc. etc..

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                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @nopanic
                            last edited by Dec 27, 2024, 5:25 PM

                            @nopanic however your creating these netblocks - your blocking way more than just the netblock of the bad guy.. I mean that 64.0.0.0/2 is a HUGE amount of addresses - HUGE!!

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                              nopanic @johnpoz
                              last edited by Dec 27, 2024, 5:40 PM

                              @johnpoz super!
                              you helped my a lot.I will have a look to pfblocker and I check the alias again.

                              Thanks for help!
                              Stefan

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