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      mwatch Administrator
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      A new public BETA for pfSense Plus 25.03 is now available!

      A big thank you to all users willing to test this BETA release. Your community involvement is essential to making Netgate's pfSense Plus product a stronger solution for everyone!

      This release includes over 60 updates, bug fixes, and enhancements. Release Notes with more details on these improvements are linked below!

      Note: As of this BETA version, the Multi-Instance Management Early Look features, which included the 3 additional free managed instances, will be discontinued. The ability to control the local instance will still remain.

      Release Notes: https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/releases/25-03.html

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      • chudakC
        chudak @mwatch
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        @mwatch

        I am puzzled as to why you don't allow a 24.03 => 25.03 upgrade path for this beta?!

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        • GertjanG
          Gertjan @chudak
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          @chudak

          Betas are/were based upon the latest "stable" as (imho) it isn't a full update/upgrade, but only the "current working set + the stuff that actually changed"
          Probably less puzzling for you : going to 24.11, let the dust settle, and then go straight to the latest Beta.
          Or is 24.11 a show stopper for you ?

          No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
          Edit : and where are the logs ??

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            netblues @Gertjan
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            @Gertjan said in New pfSense Plus 25.03-BETA is here!:

            Betas are/were based upon the latest "stable" as (imho) it isn't a full update/upgrade, but only the "current working set + the stuff that actually changed"

            This can't be a beta. Beta is the full update, that the developers are confident enough to release for testing (either internal or public)

            When things stabilize we get Release candidates., and one of them becomes release.

            What you are referring is alpha code.

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              Gertjan @netblues
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              @netblues said in New pfSense Plus 25.03-BETA is here!:

              New pfSense Plus 25.03-BETA is here!:

              @netblues said in New pfSense Plus 25.03-BETA is here!:

              This can't be a beta.

              How can a beta not be a beta ?

              No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
              Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                netblues @Gertjan
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                @Gertjan I'm referring to your definition of beta.
                25.03 is definitely a beta :)

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                • chudakC
                  chudak
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                  @Gertjan @netblues

                  You are discussing symentics

                  It does not matter what you call it beta or alpha

                  It's definitely beta IMHO as long as it's released to the public for testing.

                  My point is that we don't test the 24.03 => 25.03 upgrade path.

                  And this is important to me as 24.11 presented issues to my environment.

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                    netblues @chudak
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                    @chudak said in New pfSense Plus 25.03-BETA is here!:

                    @mwatch

                    I am puzzled as to why you don't allow a 24.03 => 25.03 upgrade path for this beta?!

                    This has always been the case with pfsense upgrades.
                    They had to happen in sequence.

                    Now if you want to go straight to 25.03, take a configuration backup file, install 25.03 beta and restore.

                    Works most of the times.

                    (but it is still a beta, so not recommended for production, (as always))

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                    • GertjanG
                      Gertjan
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                      feb9259a-ca7c-4d78-a352-50c6768a4cbe-image.png

                      Beta 3 is there ....

                      No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                      Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                        netblues @Gertjan
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                        @Gertjan installed and works fine, as is 2.8 beta released at the same time.
                        Didn't see any release notes though.
                        Any ideas what is "fixed" ?

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                        • GertjanG
                          Gertjan @netblues
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                          @netblues said in New pfSense Plus 25.03-BETA is here!:

                          Any ideas what is "fixed" ?

                          No, but your pfSense knows ^^ Mine send me this notification :

                          13:15:04 An update to pfSense version 25.03.b.20250427.2348 is available

The following updates are available and can be installed using System > Package Manager:

Nexus: 25.03.b.20250414.1838 ==> 25.03.b.20250427.2348
pfBlockerNG-devel: 3.2.6 ==> 3.2.7

Some packages are part of the base system and will not show up in Package Manager. If any such updates are listed below, run `pkg upgrade` from the shell to install them:

if_pppoe-kmod: 25.03.b.20250414.1838.1500029 -> 25.03.b.20250427.2348.1500029 [pfSense]
pfSense: 25.03.b.20250414.1838.1500029 -> 25.03.b.20250427.2348.1500029 [pfSense]
pfSense-base: 25.03.b.20250414.1838 -> 25.03.b.20250427.2348 [pfSense-core]
pfSense-boot: 25.03.b.20250414.1838 -> 25.03.b.20250427.2348 [pfSense-core]
pfSense-default-config-serial: 25.03.b.20250414.1838 -> 25.03.b.20250427.2348 [pfSense]
pfSense-kernel-pfSense: 25.03.b.20250414.1838 -> 25.03.b.20250427.2348 [pfSense-core]
pfSense-pkg-Nexus: 25.03.b.20250414.1838 -> 25.03.b.20250427.2348 [pfSense]
pfSense-pkg-pfBlockerNG-devel: 3.2.6 -> 3.2.7 [pfSense]
pfSense-repo: 25.03.b.20250414.1838 -> 25.03.b.20250427.2348 [pfSense]
pfSense-repoc: 20250222 -> 20250419 [pfSense]

                          which is basically 'everything' = kernel, base files, and an updated pppoe kernel mod, and a pfSense package or two.

                          Imho, and I'm just a user like you, these were the last changes. According to redmine, a lot of small GUI and code changes 'everywhere'.

                          No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                          Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                          • GertjanG
                            Gertjan
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                            25.03.b.20250429.1329 "25.03 beta 4" up and running.

                            No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                            Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                              Gertjan @Gertjan
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                              25.03.b.20250507.1611, "beta 5" is avaible.

                              No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                              Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                                FollyDude 0
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                                25.03 Beta if_pppoe Feedback only

                                Since I installed the latest 25.03 Beta, I am seeing the following entries in the system log which are being posted every minute. These are not causing any issues, but you asked for feedback

                                2025-05-12 09:33:53.318614+01:00 kernel - pppoe: alien host unique tag, no session found
                                2025-05-12 09:32:53.394458+01:00 kernel - pppoe: alien host unique tag, no session found
                                2025-05-12 09:31:53.295508+01:00 kernel - pppoe: alien host unique tag, no session found
                                2025-05-12 09:30:53.280517+01:00 kernel - pppoe: alien host unique tag, no session found
                                2025-05-12 09:29:53.452473+01:00 kernel - pppoe: alien host unique tag, no session found
                                2025-05-12 09:28:53.311469+01:00 kernel - pppoe: alien host unique tag, no session found
                                2025-05-12 09:27:53.340471+01:00 kernel - pppoe: alien host unique tag, no session found

                                Also in the system log on boot:

                                pppoe1: received unexpected PADO
                                pppoe1: received unexpected PADO
                                pppoe1: received unexpected PADO
                                pppoe1: received unexpected PADO
                                pppoe1: received unexpected PADO
                                pppoe1: host unique tag found, but it belongs to a connection in state 3
                                pppoe: received PADO but could not find request for it
                                pppoe1: host unique tag found, but it belongs to a connection in state 3
                                pppoe: received PADO but could not find request for it
                                pppoe1: host unique tag found, but it belongs to a connection in state 3
                                pppoe: received PADO but could not find request for it
                                pppoe1: host unique tag found, but it belongs to a connection in state 3
                                pppoe: received PADO but could not find request for it
                                pppoe1: host unique tag found, but it belongs to a connection in state 3
                                pppoe: received PADO but could not find request for it
                                pppoe1: host unique tag found, but it belongs to a connection in state 3
                                pppoe: received PADO but could not find request for it
                                pppoe1: link state changed to UP
                                pppoe1: host unique tag found, but it belongs to a connection in state 3
                                pppoe: received PADO but could not find request for it
                                pppoe1: host unique tag found, but it belongs to a connection in state 3
                                pppoe: received PADO but could not find request for it
                                pppoe1: host unique tag found, but it belongs to a connection in state 3
                                pppoe: received PADO but could not find request for it
                                pppoe1: host unique tag found, but it belongs to a connection in state 3
                                pppoe: received PADO but could not find request for it
                                pppoe1: host unique tag found, but it belongs to a connection in state 3
                                pppoe: received PADO but could not find request for it
                                pppoe1: host unique tag found, but it belongs to a connection in state 3
                                pppoe: received PADO but could not find request for it
                                2025-05-12T09:41pppoe1: host unique tag found, but it belongs to a connection in state 3
                                pppoe: received PADO but could not find request for it
                                pppoe1: host unique tag found, but it belongs to a connection in state 3
                                pppoe: received PADO but could not find request for it
                                pppoe1: host unique tag found, but it belongs to a connection in state 3
                                pppoe: received PADO but could not find request for it
                                pppoe1: host unique tag found, but it belongs to a connection in state 3
                                pppoe: received PADO but could not find request for it
                                pppoe1: host unique tag found, but it belongs to a connection in state 3
                                pppoe: received PADO but could not find request for it
                                pppoe1: host unique tag found, but it belongs to a connection in state 3
                                pppoe: received PADO but could not find request for it

                                Steve

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                                  netblues @Gertjan
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                                  @Gertjan said in New pfSense Plus 25.03-BETA is here!:

                                  25.03.b.20250507.1611, "beta 5" is avaible.

                                  Beta5 makes pppoe logging available again :)

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                                    netblues @FollyDude 0
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                                    @FollyDude-0 As the logs say, receiving a pado without requesting it is an indication of something wrong in the setup, possibly outside pfsense config.

                                    I have no such issues with new pppoe too.

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                                      FollyDude 0 @netblues
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                                      @netblues

                                      Here is my config for reference

                                      Router: Netgate SG-6100 MAX
                                      ISP: zen .co.uk (uses OpenReach fibre infrastructure)
                                      Service: FTTP 900 down/100 up Static ipv4 & ipv6

                                      Connection has been solid with no errors prior to switching to if_pppoe. Not sure what I could change in the config to have any affect on this

                                      Anyone else have this working with zen.co.uk with if_pppoe?

                                      Cheers

                                      Steve

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                                        FollyDude 0 @FollyDude 0
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                                        @FollyDude-0

                                        EDIT

                                        Just to clarify, I am not seeing any other issues after enabling if_pppoe, other than the messages being posted, speed tests are normal. latency has not changed.

                                        Steve

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                                          drewsaur
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                                          Is 25.03 truly going to come out? I see that there is a 25.07 right around the corner. Is that the new target date for the next release of Plus?

                                          https://redmine.pfsense.org/projects/pfsense/roadmap

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                                            netblues @drewsaur
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                                            @drewsaur Of course it is
                                            A release candidate has just been released, both for plus and 2.8ce
                                            Usually the stable release isn't far away, most probably within May, unless of course something comes up.

                                            25.7 is expected some time in August/September based on previous experience.
                                            However netgate can surprise us too.

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