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    Now Available: pfSense® Plus 25.07-RELEASE

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    • GertjanG Offline
      Gertjan @johan333
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      @johan333 said in Now Available: pfSense® Plus 25.07-RELEASE:

      Performed upgrade from console using option 13

      ... and you've logged the console output.
      That's just 👍
      At least, you've put all changes on your side. If the upgrade goes well, you have the details, and you can forget about them.
      If it didn't, something went wrong, changes are high you know what happened, and why.

      Now for the bad news : about the shutdown.
      It happens in the very early boot sequence of the kernel.
      It's the kernel itself that bails out - or the kernel calls /sbin/shutdown - as this executable contains this exact text string "Shutdown NOW!" but afaik, the file system isn't even mounted yet, so the kernel can't even use "/sbin/shutdown" at that moment.
      The thing is, nothing, the why part, was logged.
      A work around could be : intercept the boot sequence, and activate verbose kernel logging ?

      There is a solution, and keep in mind : your pfSense works. So you have a backup of your pfSense config.
      Worse case situation : get the installer, and wipe clean / reinstall completely from scratch.
      This will take 10 minutes of your time. Success is guaranteed.
      ... and it will take the 'why this this happened' with it :(

      I hope you'll receive more helpful info from other forum readers.

      No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
      Edit : and where are the logs ??

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      • stephenw10S Online
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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        Hmm, nothing obviously wrong there. Do you see an alert after it reboots into 24.11?

        Check System > Boot Environments. Do you see the new 25.07.1 BE marked as failed?

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          SteveITS Rebel Alliance @johan333
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          @johan333 Based on other posts…

          see if /cf/conf/backup is full. If so delete files or visit Diagnostics >Backup> Configuration history until it doesn’t time out. There was a bug where they weren’t automatically deleted.

          Delete old/unnecessary boot environments. (Ignore the “size” shown)

          Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
          When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to reboot, or more depending on packages, and device or disk speed.
          Upvote 👍 helpful posts!

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          • stephenw10S Online
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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            Yup, very good point. Since it appears to be failing at 'updating configuration' check for far too many backups.

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              johan333
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              Thank you for the help.

              @stephenw10 - I would've expected to see some type of kernel panic notice based on this behavior, but no alerts whatsoever. I have the SG2100 console port connected via USB to a RaspberryPi device and logging the console output via screen. Yes, as per the screenshots, it states the BE failed to verify.

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              @SteveITS - Interesting...I'll give the GUI diagnostic screen a try. Here's what /cf/conf/backup has:

              [24.11-RELEASE][root@pfSense.home.lan]/: du -sh /cf/conf/backup
              2.0G    /cf/conf/backup
              [24.11-RELEASE][root@pfSense.home.lan]/: ls -l /cf/conf/backup | wc -l
                 12318
              
              
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                SteveITS Rebel Alliance @johan333
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                @johan333 said in Now Available: pfSense® Plus 25.07-RELEASE:

                12318

                That's it, then. Should be ~30 files by default.

                There were a couple bugs at play, pfBlocker updates a timestamp in the file every cron run, and the backups were not being pruned automatically. So every hour for a year or more... I've seen a few posts here and on Reddit with similar update failure.

                Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
                When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to reboot, or more depending on packages, and device or disk speed.
                Upvote 👍 helpful posts!

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                  mcury Rebel Alliance @SteveITS
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                  @SteveITS said in Now Available: pfSense® Plus 25.07-RELEASE:

                  There were a couple bugs at play, pfBlocker updates a timestamp in the file every cron run,

                  25.07.1 has this issue with pfBlockerNG.
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                  But Maximum Backups option is working.

                  dead on arrival, nowhere to be found.

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                    johan333 @SteveITS
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                    @SteveITS Wow, very interesting and great insight. Based on the evidence, I would've never come to this discovery/conclusion. The diag page does time out BTW, so I'll just manually prune it and try the update again. Know if the bug was fixed in 25.07 and if not what is the work-around people are using (e.g. CRON job)?

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                      SteveITS Rebel Alliance @mcury
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                      @mcury said in Now Available: pfSense® Plus 25.07-RELEASE:

                      25.07.1 has this issue with pfBlockerNG

                      I don't have a link handy but I'm pretty sure Netgate posted that's been fixed in a later version? Or there was a patch in that forum somewhere. It's worse if using pfB in HA because the secondary was getting multiple config files because of its cron plus the sync at cron time.

                      I have a note to check config history before starting an update.

                      diag page does time out

                      It will but if you keep reloading after that, and be patient it should eventually load. I think mine timed out after 10 minutes and had deleted most of the files.

                      25.7 fixed the history retention.

                      Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
                      When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to reboot, or more depending on packages, and device or disk speed.
                      Upvote 👍 helpful posts!

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                        mcury Rebel Alliance @SteveITS
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                        @SteveITS said in Now Available: pfSense® Plus 25.07-RELEASE:

                        I don't have a link handy but I'm pretty sure Netgate posted that's been fixed in a later version?

                        Redmine #14409
                        DNSBL is also disabled here, so it seems that 25.07.1 didn't bring that fix?

                        dead on arrival, nowhere to be found.

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                          mcury Rebel Alliance @mcury
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                          I'm opening a new thread about the pfBlockerNG and configuration history.

                          dead on arrival, nowhere to be found.

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