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    Is anyone else seeing lots of Oerrs on a PPPoE ISP connection running over VLAN 911?

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      ChrisJenk
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      NetGate 6100 running 25.07 and using the new if_pppoe kernel module. WAN connection is 2.5 Gbit/s; one of the 2.5 GbE ports connected to the CityFibre FTTH ONT - Calix GP1002X - with PPPoE obver VLKAN 911.

      I can't say for sure if this is new or if it has always been like this but I think if it had always been like this I would have noticed before now...

      Last week I upgraded the NetGate from 24.11 to 25.07 and switched to using the new if_pppoe kernel module. A couple of days later my ISP connection was uograded from 900 Mbit/s to 2.5 Gbit/s (using the same port on the NetGate).

      What I am seeing is that there are no errors reported on the underlying ethernet port (igc0) but the VLAN on top of that (igc0.911) each day has accrued significant Oerrs. The PPPoE connection on top of the VLAN (pppoe0) likewise (though always a few less than the VLAN). No errors of any kind reported by 'netstat -i' on any other ports.

      Despite these apparent errors thinsg are running fine with no obvious issues. WAN latency and throughput are as expected. Admittedly although the counts look high the actual pacjet error rate is only 0.02%. Still...

      So I am wondering what exactly this error counter is counting and whether these are 'real' errors or something else.

      Here is the netstat -i output for 4 consecutive days; as you can see the total error count is increasing day by day, especially from 17th to 18th.

      2025-08-15

      Name       Mtu Network                  Address                                    Ipkts Ierrs Idrop     Opkts Oerrs  Coll
      igc0      1500 <Link#1>                 XX:XX:77:7f:c9:d6                       22225821     0     0  18301728     0     0
      igc0         - fe80::%igc0/64           fe80::XXXX:77ff:fe7f:c9d6%igc0                 0     -     -         2     -     -
      ...
      igc0.911  1500 <Link#15>                XX:XX:77:7f:c9:d6                       22225821     0     0  18301728 11973     0
      igc0.911     - fe80::%igc0.911/64       fe80::XXXX:77ff:fe7f:c9d6%igc0.911             0     -     -         2     -     -
      ...
      pppoe0    1492 <Link#17>                pppoe0                                  22217222     0     0  18313696 11968     0
      pppoe0       - fe80::%pppoe0/64         fe80::XXXX:77ff:fe7f:c9d6%pppoe0            5352     -     -      5361     -     -
      pppoe0       - XXX.69.48.XXX/32         abcdef.com                                 72011     -     -       858     -     -
      pppoe0       - router.abcdef.com        abcdef.com                                  4433     -     -      7572     -     -
      pppoe0       - 2XX2:XXX:62fb::/80       2XX2:XXX:62fb::123                          2559     -     -       141     -     -
      pppoe0       - 2XX2:XXX:feed:62fb::/64  2XX2:XXX:feed:62fb:XXXX:77ff:fe7f:c9d6      3765     -     -       170     -     -
      ...
      

      2025-08-16

      Name       Mtu Network                  Address                                     Ipkts Ierrs Idrop      Opkts Oerrs  Coll
      igc0      1500 <Link#1>                 XX:XX:77:7f:c9:d6                       120710628     0     0  123748556     0     0
      igc0         - fe80::%igc0/64           fe80::XXXX:77ff:fe7f:c9d6%igc0                  0     -     -          2     -     -
      ...
      igc0.911  1500 <Link#15>                XX:XX:77:7f:c9:d6                       120710628     0     0  123748556 20095     0
      igc0.911     - fe80::%igc0.911/64       fe80::XXXX:77ff:fe7f:c9d6%igc0.911              0     -     -          2     -     -
      ...
      pppoe0    1492 <Link#17>                pppoe0                                  120491953     0     0  123768646 20090     0
      pppoe0       - fe80::%pppoe0/64         fe80::XXXX:77ff:fe7f:c9d6%pppoe0           117154     -     -     117171     -     -
      pppoe0       - XXX.69.48.XXX/32         abcdef.com                                1414394     -     -       1492     -     -
      pppoe0       - router.abcdef.com        abcdef.com                                  68263     -     -     171414     -     -
      pppoe0       - 2XX2:XXX:62fb::/80       2XX2:XXX:62fb::123                          46794     -     -       2939     -     -
      pppoe0       - 2XX2:XXX:feed:62fb::/64  2XX2:XXX:feed:62fb:XXXX:77ff:fe7f:c9d6     110566     -     -        170     -     -
      ...
      

      2025-08-17

      Name       Mtu Network                  Address                                     Ipkts Ierrs Idrop      Opkts Oerrs  Coll
      igc0      1500 <Link#1>                 XX:XX:77:7f:c9:d6                       376839647     0     0  329146630     0     0
      igc0         - fe80::%igc0/64           fe80::XXXX:77ff:fe7f:c9d6%igc0                  0     -     -          2     -     -
      ...
      igc0.911  1500 <Link#15>                XX:XX:77:7f:c9:d6                       376839647     0     0  329146630 37579     0
      igc0.911     - fe80::%igc0.911/64       fe80::XXXX:77ff:fe7f:c9d6%igc0.911              0     -     -          2     -     -
      ...
      pppoe0    1492 <Link#17>                pppoe0                                  371222935     0     0  329184204 37574     0
      pppoe0       - fe80::%pppoe0/64         fe80::XXXX:77ff:fe7f:c9d6%pppoe0           281251     -     -     281381     -     -
      pppoe0       - XXX.69.48.XXX/32         abcdef.com                                3400824     -     -       2391     -     -
      pppoe0       - router.abcdef.com        router.abcdef.com                         1059027     -     -     404752     -     -
      pppoe0       - 2XX2:XXX:62fb::/80       2XX2:XXX:62fb::123                         119194     -     -       7046     -     -
      pppoe0       - 2XX2:XXX:feed:62fb::/64  2XX2:XXX:feed:62fb:XXXX:77ff:fe7f:c9d6     259046     -     -        170     -     -
      ...
      

      2025-08-18

      Name       Mtu Network                  Address                                     Ipkts Ierrs Idrop      Opkts Oerrs  Coll
      igc0      1500 <Link#1>                 XX:XX:77:7f:c9:d6                       622839126     0     0  564526358     0     0
      igc0         - fe80::%igc0/64           fe80::XXXX:77ff:fe7f:c9d6%igc0                  0     -     -          2     -     -
      ...
      igc0.911  1500 <Link#15>                XX:XX:77:7f:c9:d6                       622839126     0     0  564526358 120479     0
      igc0.911     - fe80::%igc0.911/64       fe80::XXXX:77ff:fe7f:c9d6%igc0.911              0     -     -          2     -     -
      ...
      pppoe0    1492 <Link#17>                pppoe0                                  615807486     0     0  564646832 120474     0
      pppoe0       - fe80::%pppoe0/64         fe80::XXXX:77ff:fe7f:c9d6%pppoe0           448387     -     -     448543     -     -
      pppoe0       - 212.69.48.211/32         abcdef.com                                5422058     -     -       3190     -     -
      pppoe0       - router.abcdef.com        router.abcdef.com                         1188711     -     -     634258     -     -
      pppoe0       - 2XX2:XXX:62fb::/80       2XX2:XXX:62fb::123                         211757     -     -      11219     -     -
      pppoe0       - 2XX2:XXX:feed:62fb::/64  2XX2:XXX:feed:62fb:XXXX:77ff:fe7f:c9d6     406524     -     -        170     -     -
      ...
      
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        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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        It's almost certainly an artifact from traffic shaping if you're running that?

        It's fixed in future versions. 25.11/2.9.0.: https://github.com/pfsense/FreeBSD-src/commit/7a623f854217be1dc7a04ce0b3f47303ea2ce7a9

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          ChrisJenk @stephenw10
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          @stephenw10 Nope, no traffic shaping configured.

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            Hmm, in that case it could be real errors. That fact they appear on the pppoe, vlan and vlan-parent interface implies that.

            Check the mac stats for igc0 in the output of sysctl dev igc.0 for what type of errors those might be.

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              ChrisJenk @stephenw10
              last edited by ChrisJenk

              @stephenw10 Note that they do NOT appear on the VLAN parent interface, only the VLAN interface and the pppoe interface.

              Nothing showing in the Mac_stats:

              dev.igc.0.mac_stats.tso_txd: 0
              dev.igc.0.mac_stats.tx_frames_1024_1522: 549766654
              dev.igc.0.mac_stats.tx_frames_512_1023: 2940126
              dev.igc.0.mac_stats.tx_frames_256_511: 3424072
              dev.igc.0.mac_stats.tx_frames_128_255: 4512551
              dev.igc.0.mac_stats.tx_frames_65_127: 143405142
              dev.igc.0.mac_stats.tx_frames_64: 687663
              dev.igc.0.mac_stats.mcast_pkts_txd: 0
              dev.igc.0.mac_stats.bcast_pkts_txd: 2
              dev.igc.0.mac_stats.good_pkts_txd: 704736205
              dev.igc.0.mac_stats.total_pkts_txd: 704736208
              dev.igc.0.mac_stats.good_octets_txd: 849936678074
              dev.igc.0.mac_stats.good_octets_recvd: 1048569211119
              dev.igc.0.mac_stats.rx_frames_1024_1522: 689280502
              dev.igc.0.mac_stats.rx_frames_512_1023: 4436609
              dev.igc.0.mac_stats.rx_frames_256_511: 2158430
              dev.igc.0.mac_stats.rx_frames_128_255: 5224710
              dev.igc.0.mac_stats.rx_frames_65_127: 55784079
              dev.igc.0.mac_stats.rx_frames_64: 655772
              dev.igc.0.mac_stats.mcast_pkts_recvd: 0
              dev.igc.0.mac_stats.bcast_pkts_recvd: 0
              dev.igc.0.mac_stats.good_pkts_recvd: 757540102
              dev.igc.0.mac_stats.total_pkts_recvd: 757540102
              dev.igc.0.mac_stats.mgmt_pkts_txd: 0
              dev.igc.0.mac_stats.mgmt_pkts_drop: 0
              dev.igc.0.mac_stats.mgmt_pkts_recvd: 0
              dev.igc.0.mac_stats.unsupported_fc_recvd: 0
              dev.igc.0.mac_stats.xoff_txd: 0
              dev.igc.0.mac_stats.xoff_recvd: 0
              dev.igc.0.mac_stats.xon_txd: 0
              dev.igc.0.mac_stats.xon_recvd: 0
              dev.igc.0.mac_stats.alignment_errs: 0
              dev.igc.0.mac_stats.crc_errs: 0
              dev.igc.0.mac_stats.recv_errs: 0
              dev.igc.0.mac_stats.recv_jabber: 0
              dev.igc.0.mac_stats.recv_oversize: 0
              dev.igc.0.mac_stats.recv_fragmented: 0
              dev.igc.0.mac_stats.recv_undersize: 0
              dev.igc.0.mac_stats.recv_no_buff: 0
              dev.igc.0.mac_stats.recv_length_errors: 0
              dev.igc.0.mac_stats.missed_packets: 0
              dev.igc.0.mac_stats.defer_count: 0
              dev.igc.0.mac_stats.sequence_errors: 0
              dev.igc.0.mac_stats.symbol_errors: 0
              dev.igc.0.mac_stats.collision_count: 0
              dev.igc.0.mac_stats.late_coll: 0
              dev.igc.0.mac_stats.multiple_coll: 0
              dev.igc.0.mac_stats.single_coll: 0
              dev.igc.0.mac_stats.excess_coll: 0
              

              I've switched back to the old PPPoE driver for now. No Oerrs so far so let's see how it goes.

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                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                Ah, yes I misread that. Hmm. You might try disabling any hardware off-loading still enabled.

                Is that connected to a switch or to an ISP modem/ONT directly? Can you see any errors there?

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                  ChrisJenk @stephenw10
                  last edited by ChrisJenk

                  @stephenw10 It's connected directly to the ONT so sadly I have no visibility. However...

                  Having switched back to the old driver and rebooted, so far no errors at all. Normally by now there would be several thousand at least.

                  So the good news is that the old driver doesn't report any errors and so likely these are not real errors but some artefact of the new driver (hopefully that will get fixed at some point).

                  The bad news is that the old driver seems to struggle to keep up with a 2.5 Gbit/s connection. My iperf3 throughput is down substantially compared to the new driver.

                  I guess I'll switch back to the new driver and just ignore the errors for now.

                  With regard to hardware offloading, the only thing I have enabled (and it has been like this since forever) is checksum offloading. Should I disable that too? Will doing so impact throughput/latency?

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                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                    Ah, that's good to hear. I guess!

                    Curious that the VLAN shows errors. 🤔

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                      ChrisJenk @stephenw10
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                      @stephenw10 So I switched back to the new driver and also disabled checksum offloading. Guess what - no errors reported now. Not sure what that means exactly but an interesting result I think.

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                        Ah, interesting. Unexpected for output errors but that's the sort of thing I might expect to cause errors.

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                          ChrisJenk @stephenw10
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                          @stephenw10 Sadly, I spoke too soon. This morning when I checked there were a load of Oerrs against the VLAN and pppoe interfaces (but NOT the base interface). Again the error count for the VLAN was a few more than the pppoe count and overall it represents an error rate of ~0.02%. No Ierrs.

                          Mac stats show one CRC error and one collision (though given this is just a cable between the NetGate port and the ONT it's hard to see how there could be a collision):

                          dev.igc.0.mac_stats.tso_txd: 0
                          dev.igc.0.mac_stats.tx_frames_1024_1522: 106987943
                          dev.igc.0.mac_stats.tx_frames_512_1023: 575465
                          dev.igc.0.mac_stats.tx_frames_256_511: 549671
                          dev.igc.0.mac_stats.tx_frames_128_255: 729276
                          dev.igc.0.mac_stats.tx_frames_65_127: 25797022
                          dev.igc.0.mac_stats.tx_frames_64: 131923
                          dev.igc.0.mac_stats.mcast_pkts_txd: 0
                          dev.igc.0.mac_stats.bcast_pkts_txd: 3
                          dev.igc.0.mac_stats.good_pkts_txd: 134771300
                          dev.igc.0.mac_stats.total_pkts_txd: 134771300
                          dev.igc.0.mac_stats.good_octets_txd: 165755531650
                          dev.igc.0.mac_stats.good_octets_recvd: 131017743687
                          dev.igc.0.mac_stats.rx_frames_1024_1522: 86115978
                          dev.igc.0.mac_stats.rx_frames_512_1023: 425579
                          dev.igc.0.mac_stats.rx_frames_256_511: 211253
                          dev.igc.0.mac_stats.rx_frames_128_255: 806539
                          dev.igc.0.mac_stats.rx_frames_65_127: 7578356
                          dev.igc.0.mac_stats.rx_frames_64: 102537
                          dev.igc.0.mac_stats.mcast_pkts_recvd: 0
                          dev.igc.0.mac_stats.bcast_pkts_recvd: 0
                          dev.igc.0.mac_stats.good_pkts_recvd: 95240242
                          dev.igc.0.mac_stats.total_pkts_recvd: 95240243
                          dev.igc.0.mac_stats.mgmt_pkts_txd: 0
                          dev.igc.0.mac_stats.mgmt_pkts_drop: 0
                          dev.igc.0.mac_stats.mgmt_pkts_recvd: 0
                          dev.igc.0.mac_stats.unsupported_fc_recvd: 0
                          dev.igc.0.mac_stats.xoff_txd: 0
                          dev.igc.0.mac_stats.xoff_recvd: 0
                          dev.igc.0.mac_stats.xon_txd: 0
                          dev.igc.0.mac_stats.xon_recvd: 0
                          dev.igc.0.mac_stats.alignment_errs: 0
                          dev.igc.0.mac_stats.crc_errs: 1
                          dev.igc.0.mac_stats.recv_errs: 0
                          dev.igc.0.mac_stats.recv_jabber: 0
                          dev.igc.0.mac_stats.recv_oversize: 0
                          dev.igc.0.mac_stats.recv_fragmented: 0
                          dev.igc.0.mac_stats.recv_undersize: 0
                          dev.igc.0.mac_stats.recv_no_buff: 0
                          dev.igc.0.mac_stats.recv_length_errors: 0
                          dev.igc.0.mac_stats.missed_packets: 0
                          dev.igc.0.mac_stats.defer_count: 0
                          dev.igc.0.mac_stats.sequence_errors: 0
                          dev.igc.0.mac_stats.symbol_errors: 0
                          dev.igc.0.mac_stats.collision_count: 1
                          dev.igc.0.mac_stats.late_coll: 0
                          dev.igc.0.mac_stats.multiple_coll: 0
                          dev.igc.0.mac_stats.single_coll: 0
                          dev.igc.0.mac_stats.excess_coll: 0
                          

                          Not sure where this leaves me. The errors don't seem to be 'real' but if so why is the device counting so many?

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                            A single collision or other error like that can be from when the link came up for example or of it renegotiated. Not anything I'd worry about.

                            You could try switching to a different igc NIC in case it's somehow just not reporting errors on the parent that are in fact there.

                            If it really was seeing errors though I'd expect to see your upload speed impacted but you're seeing good throughput?

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                              ChrisJenk @stephenw10
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                              @stephenw10 I'm seeing good throughput for bith upload and download. In fact upload is generally better than download (but that is likely due to Internet factors more than anything). Given that the 'old' PPPoE driver does not report any errors it seems to me that this is somehow related to the new driver so given that switching to a different igc NIC is a bit of a faff (and disruptive) I think I won't try that for now. It certainly looks (to me at least) like there is at least one additional bug beyond the one you identified (unless that is somehow also responsible for this).

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                                The interesting part to me is that it's shown on the VLAN. We know the old driver doesn't log some errors like the dropped packets from traffic shaping. We old found that when using the new driver.

                                But the VLAN should only be passing the PPPoE packets which should be the same for both drivers. I assume you don't see errors on the VLAN with the old driver?

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                                  ChrisJenk @stephenw10
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                                  @stephenw10 Nope, no errors at all (on pppoe0 or igc0.911) with the old driver. And of course nothing in mac_stats for igc.0 with old or new drivers.

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                                    Hmm, could be a clue there. 🤔

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                                      @stephenw10 I've been doing more experiments and have some more info on all of this.

                                      1. With the new driver it seems that heavy traffic triggers an increase in the number of reported errors. For example a HTTP or Iperf3 speed test that pushes the link close to the limit (though the speeds are still very good).

                                      2. I'm now running with the old driver (as an experiment for comparison purposes). I saw a small number of errors on the VLAN only just after the router had restarted and some small increase in those over time, and no errors at all on the pppoe0 interface, even after several hours of running including many speed tests.

                                      After boot

                                      Name       Mtu Network                  Address                                   Ipkts Ierrs Idrop    Opkts Oerrs  Coll
                                      igc0      1500 <Link#1>                 XX:XX:77:7f:c9:d6                       4804079     0     0  5717254     0     0
                                      ...
                                      igc0.911  1500 <Link#15>                XX:XX:77:7f:c9:d6                       4804079     0     0  5717254   820     0
                                      igc0.911     - fe80::%igc0.911/64       fe80::XXXX:77ff:fe7f:c9d6%igc0.911            0     -     -        0     -     -
                                      ...
                                      pppoe0    1492 <Link#17>                pppoe0                                  4803848     0     0  5717807     0     0
                                      pppoe0       - XXX.69.48.XXX/32         abcdef.com                                15982     -     -        7     -     -
                                      pppoe0       - fe80::%pppoe0/64         fe80::XXXX:77ff:fe7f:c9d6%pppoe0           1386     -     -     1391     -     -
                                      pppoe0       - abcdef.com               abcdef.com                                 1232     -     -     3075     -     -
                                      pppoe0       - 2XX2:XXX:62fb::123/128   2XX2:XXX:62fb::123                          501     -     -        1     -     -
                                      pppoe0       - fe80::%pppoe0/64         fe80::XXXX:77ff:fe7f:c9d9%pppoe0              0     -     -        0     -     -
                                      pppoe0       - 2XX2:XXX:feed:62fb::/64  2XX2:XXX:feed:62fb:92ec:77ff:fe7f:c9d6     1848     -     -        0     -     -
                                      ...
                                      

                                      An hour, and several speed tests, later

                                      Name       Mtu Network                  Address                                    Ipkts Ierrs Idrop     Opkts Oerrs  Coll
                                      igc0      1500 <Link#1>                 XX:XX:77:7f:c9:d6                       15059231     0     0  18533104     0     0
                                      ...
                                      igc0.911  1500 <Link#15>                XX:XX:77:7f:c9:d6                       15059231     0     0  18533104   820     0
                                      igc0.911     - fe80::%igc0.911/64       fe80::XXXX:77ff:fe7f:c9d6%igc0.911             0     -     -         0     -     -
                                      ...
                                      pppoe0    1492 <Link#17>                pppoe0                                  15058839     0     0  18533476     0     0
                                      pppoe0       - XXX.69.48.XXX/32         abcdef.com                                111491     -     -        28     -     -
                                      pppoe0       - fe80::%pppoe0/64         fe80::XXXX:77ff:fe7f:c9d6%pppoe0            8527     -     -      8535     -     -
                                      pppoe0       - abcdef.com               abcdef.com                                  4958     -     -     12415     -     -
                                      pppoe0       - 2XX2:XXX:62fb::123/128   2XX2:XXX:62fb::123                          3912     -     -         1     -     -
                                      pppoe0       - fe80::%pppoe0/64         fe80::XXXX:77ff:fe7f:c9d9%pppoe0               0     -     -         0     -     -
                                      pppoe0       - 2XX2:XXX:feed:62fb::/64  2XX2:XXX:feed:62fb:92ec:77ff:fe7f:c9d6      8376     -     -         0     -     -
                                      ...
                                      

                                      Several hours later

                                      Name       Mtu Network                  Address                                    Ipkts Ierrs Idrop     Opkts Oerrs  Coll
                                      igc0      1500 <Link#1>                 XX:XX:77:7f:c9:d6                       57841186     0     0  68454730     0     0
                                      igc0         - fe80::%igc0/64           fe80::XXXX:77ff:fe7f:c9d6%igc0                 0     -     -         1     -     -
                                      ...
                                      igc0.911  1500 <Link#15>                XX:XX:77:7f:c9:d6                       57841186     0     0  68454730  1590     0
                                      igc0.911     - fe80::%igc0.911/64       fe80::XXXX:77ff:fe7f:c9d6%igc0.911             0     -     -         0     -     -
                                      ...
                                      pppoe0    1492 <Link#17>                pppoe0                                  57840234     0     0  68454319     0     0
                                      pppoe0       - XXX.69.48.XXX/32         abcdef.com                                513438     -     -       250     -     -
                                      pppoe0       - fe80::%pppoe0/64         fe80::XXXX:77ff:fe7f:c9d6%pppoe0           39368     -     -     39387     -     -
                                      pppoe0       - abcdef.com               abcdef.com                                 21290     -     -     62223     -     -
                                      pppoe0       - 2XX2:XXX:62fb::123/128   2XX2:XXX:62fb::123                         18804     -     -         1     -     -
                                      pppoe0       - fe80::%pppoe0/64         fe80::XXXX:77ff:fe7f:c9d9%pppoe0               0     -     -         0     -     -
                                      pppoe0       - 2XX2:XXX:feed:62fb::/64  2XX2:XXX:feed:62fb:92ec:77ff:fe7f:c9d6     40841     -     -         0     -     -
                                      ...
                                      

                                      mac_stats for igc.0 show no errors of any kind. I'd be interested to know where the (very few) errors counted against the VLAN are coming from.

                                      It seems to me that maybe the new driver is not quite ready for prime time.

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                                      • stephenw10S Online
                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                        Hmm, seeing a few errors when the interface comes up is not that unusual. Errors on the VLAN only is odd though. Especially as they are increasing after boot.

                                        You have hardware VLAN tagging enabled on igc0?
                                        Shown in options out of capabilities like:

                                        [25.07.1-RELEASE][admin@6100.stevew.lan]/root: ifconfig -vm igc0
                                        igc0: flags=1008843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST,LOWER_UP> metric 0 mtu 1300
                                        	options=48020b8<VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,JUMBO_MTU,VLAN_HWCSUM,WOL_MAGIC,HWSTATS,MEXTPG>
                                        	capabilities=4f43fbb<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,JUMBO_MTU,VLAN_HWCSUM,TSO4,TSO6,LRO,WOL_UCAST,WOL_MCAST,WOL_MAGIC,VLAN_HWTSO,NETMAP,RXCSUM_IPV6,TXCSUM_IPV6,HWSTATS,MEXTPG>
                                        

                                        Try disabling that and see if the errors stop:
                                        ifconfig igc0 -vlanhwtag

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                                          ChrisJenk @stephenw10
                                          last edited by ChrisJenk

                                          @stephenw10 Yes it is enabled:

                                          igc0: flags=1008843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST,LOWER_UP> metric 0 mtu 1500
                                                  options=4e427bb<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,JUMBO_MTU,VLAN_HWCSUM,TSO4,TSO6,LRO,WOL_MAGIC,VLAN_HWTSO,RXCSUM_IPV6,T
                                          XCSUM_IPV6,HWSTATS,MEXTPG>
                                                  capabilities=4f43fbb<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,JUMBO_MTU,VLAN_HWCSUM,TSO4,TSO6,LRO,WOL_UCAST,WOL_MCAST,WOL_MAGIC
                                          ,VLAN_HWTSO,NETMAP,RXCSUM_IPV6,TXCSUM_IPV6,HWSTATS,MEXTPG>
                                                  ether XX:XX:77:7f:c9:d6
                                                  inet6 fe80::XXXX:77ff:fe7f:c9d6%igc0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1
                                                  media: Ethernet autoselect (2500Base-T <full-duplex>)
                                                  status: active
                                                  supported media:
                                                          media autoselect
                                                          media 2500Base-T
                                                          media 1000baseT
                                                          media 1000baseT mediaopt full-duplex
                                                          media 100baseTX mediaopt full-duplex
                                                          media 100baseTX
                                                          media 10baseT/UTP mediaopt full-duplex
                                                          media 10baseT/UTP
                                                  nd6 options=21<PERFORMNUD,AUTO_LINKLOCAL>
                                                  drivername: igc0
                                          

                                          I've turned it off now:

                                          igc0: flags=1008843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST,LOWER_UP> metric 0 mtu 1500
                                          	options=4e427ab<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,JUMBO_MTU,VLAN_HWCSUM,TSO4,TSO6,LRO,WOL_MAGIC,VLAN_HWTSO,RXCSUM_IPV6,TXCSUM_IPV6,HWSTATS,MEXTPG>
                                          	capabilities=4f43fbb<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,JUMBO_MTU,VLAN_HWCSUM,TSO4,TSO6,LRO,WOL_UCAST,WOL_MCAST,WOL_MAGIC,VLAN_HWTSO,NETMAP,RXCSUM_IPV6,TXCSUM_IPV6,HWSTATS,MEXTPG>
                                          	ether XX:XX:77:7f:c9:d6
                                          	inet6 fe80::XXXX:77ff:fe7f:c9d6%igc0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1
                                          	media: Ethernet autoselect (2500Base-T <full-duplex>)
                                          	status: active
                                          	supported media:
                                          		media autoselect
                                          		media 2500Base-T
                                          		media 1000baseT
                                          		media 1000baseT mediaopt full-duplex
                                          		media 100baseTX mediaopt full-duplex
                                          		media 100baseTX
                                          		media 10baseT/UTP mediaopt full-duplex
                                          		media 10baseT/UTP
                                          	nd6 options=21<PERFORMNUD,AUTO_LINKLOCAL>
                                          	drivername: igc0
                                          

                                          Is that likely to have any detrimental effect?

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                                          • stephenw10S Online
                                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                            Potentially it might make the connection fractionally slower but I'd be surprised if you're able to detect it!

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