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    pfSense VM on Proxmox: PPPoE only works when parent NIC is PCI passthrough — virtual NIC breaks LAN→WAN traffic

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    • w0wW Away
      w0w @netblues
      last edited by

      @netblues
      I kinda screwed up… I forgot to mention that this ix0 is part of a LAGG interface, and the LAN itself is using that LAGG. This shouldn’t really affect anything, but I’ll check if that’s the issue. Also, I don’t remember changing any settings for this NIC on the host, I think I left it as is.

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        w0w
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        Configured LAN to use ix0 directly — nothing changed.

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          w0w @netblues
          last edited by w0w

          @netblues said in pfSense VM on Proxmox: PPPoE only works when parent NIC is PCI passthrough — virtual NIC breaks LAN→WAN traffic:

          JUMBO_MTU

          Hmm… I don't see any jumbo settings on my vtnet interfaces, did you change something? VM setiings? Nonstandard MTU?

          Now I have configured it directly for both pppoe and LAN

          vtnet0: flags=1008843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST,LOWER_UP> metric 0 mtu 1500
	options=880008<VLAN_MTU,LINKSTATE,HWSTATS>
	ether a-
	inet6 fe80::aab8:e0ff:fe02:655a%vtnet0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x5
	media: Ethernet autoselect (10Gbase-T <full-duplex>)
	status: active
	nd6 options=21<PERFORMNUD,AUTO_LINKLOCAL>
vtnet1: flags=1008943<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,PROMISC,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST,LOWER_UP> metric 0 mtu 1500
	description: LAN
	options=880008<VLAN_MTU,LINKSTATE,HWSTATS>
	ether a-
	inet 10.0.67.2 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.0.67.255
	inet 10.0.67.5 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.0.67.255 vhid 5
	inet 10.0.70.5 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.0.70.255 vhid 10
	inet 10.0.70.11 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.0.70.255
	inet6 fe80::a236:9fff:fef8:f225%vtnet1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x6
	inet6 fd00:1234:abcd:1::2 prefixlen 64
	inet6 fd00:1234:abcd:1::5 prefixlen 64 vhid 12
	carp: MASTER vhid 5 advbase 5 advskew 100
	      peer 224.0.0.18 peer6 ff02::12
	carp: MASTER vhid 10 advbase 5 advskew 100
	      peer 224.0.0.18 peer6 ff02::12
	carp: MASTER vhid 12 advbase 5 advskew 100
	      peer 224.0.0.18 peer6 ff02::12
	media: Ethernet autoselect (10Gbase-T <full-duplex>)
	status: active
	nd6 options=21<PERFORMNUD,AUTO_LINKLOCAL>

          Ok, I've changed MTU to 9000 in proxmox for the LAN card/bridge/vtnet

          vtnet1: flags=1008943<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,PROMISC,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST,LOWER_UP> metric 0 mtu 1500
	description: LAN
	options=880028<VLAN_MTU,JUMBO_MTU,LINKSTATE,HWSTATS>

          Still working for me… no problem.

          Proxmox settings for WAN parent

          :~# ethtool -k enp6s0f0
Features for enp6s0f0:
rx-checksumming: on
tx-checksumming: on
        tx-checksum-ipv4: off [fixed]
        tx-checksum-ip-generic: on
        tx-checksum-ipv6: off [fixed]
        tx-checksum-fcoe-crc: on [fixed]
        tx-checksum-sctp: on
scatter-gather: on
        tx-scatter-gather: on
        tx-scatter-gather-fraglist: off [fixed]
tcp-segmentation-offload: on
        tx-tcp-segmentation: on
        tx-tcp-ecn-segmentation: off [fixed]
        tx-tcp-mangleid-segmentation: off
        tx-tcp6-segmentation: on
        tx-tcp-accecn-segmentation: off [fixed]
generic-segmentation-offload: on
generic-receive-offload: on
large-receive-offload: off
rx-vlan-offload: on
tx-vlan-offload: on
ntuple-filters: off
receive-hashing: on
highdma: on [fixed]
rx-vlan-filter: on
vlan-challenged: off [fixed]
tx-gso-robust: off [fixed]
tx-fcoe-segmentation: on [fixed]
tx-gre-segmentation: on
tx-gre-csum-segmentation: on
tx-ipxip4-segmentation: on
tx-ipxip6-segmentation: on
tx-udp_tnl-segmentation: on
tx-udp_tnl-csum-segmentation: on
tx-gso-partial: on
tx-tunnel-remcsum-segmentation: off [fixed]
tx-sctp-segmentation: off [fixed]
tx-esp-segmentation: on
tx-udp-segmentation: on
tx-gso-list: off [fixed]
tx-nocache-copy: off
loopback: off [fixed]
rx-fcs: off [fixed]
rx-all: off
tx-vlan-stag-hw-insert: off [fixed]
rx-vlan-stag-hw-parse: off [fixed]
rx-vlan-stag-filter: off [fixed]
l2-fwd-offload: off
hw-tc-offload: off
esp-hw-offload: on
esp-tx-csum-hw-offload: on
rx-udp_tunnel-port-offload: on
tls-hw-tx-offload: off [fixed]
tls-hw-rx-offload: off [fixed]
rx-gro-hw: off [fixed]
tls-hw-record: off [fixed]
rx-gro-list: off
macsec-hw-offload: off [fixed]
rx-udp-gro-forwarding: off
hsr-tag-ins-offload: off [fixed]
hsr-tag-rm-offload: off [fixed]
hsr-fwd-offload: off [fixed]
hsr-dup-offload: off [fixed]

          LAN

           ethtool -k enp6s0f1
Features for enp6s0f1:
rx-checksumming: on
tx-checksumming: on
        tx-checksum-ipv4: off [fixed]
        tx-checksum-ip-generic: on
        tx-checksum-ipv6: off [fixed]
        tx-checksum-fcoe-crc: on [fixed]
        tx-checksum-sctp: on
scatter-gather: on
        tx-scatter-gather: on
        tx-scatter-gather-fraglist: off [fixed]
tcp-segmentation-offload: on
        tx-tcp-segmentation: on
        tx-tcp-ecn-segmentation: off [fixed]
        tx-tcp-mangleid-segmentation: off
        tx-tcp6-segmentation: on
        tx-tcp-accecn-segmentation: off [fixed]
generic-segmentation-offload: on
generic-receive-offload: on
large-receive-offload: off
rx-vlan-offload: on
tx-vlan-offload: on
ntuple-filters: off
receive-hashing: on
highdma: on [fixed]
rx-vlan-filter: on
vlan-challenged: off [fixed]
tx-gso-robust: off [fixed]
tx-fcoe-segmentation: on [fixed]
tx-gre-segmentation: on
tx-gre-csum-segmentation: on
tx-ipxip4-segmentation: on
tx-ipxip6-segmentation: on
tx-udp_tnl-segmentation: on
tx-udp_tnl-csum-segmentation: on
tx-gso-partial: on
tx-tunnel-remcsum-segmentation: off [fixed]
tx-sctp-segmentation: off [fixed]
tx-esp-segmentation: on
tx-udp-segmentation: on
tx-gso-list: off [fixed]
tx-nocache-copy: off
loopback: off [fixed]
rx-fcs: off [fixed]
rx-all: off
tx-vlan-stag-hw-insert: off [fixed]
rx-vlan-stag-hw-parse: off [fixed]
rx-vlan-stag-filter: off [fixed]
l2-fwd-offload: off
hw-tc-offload: off
esp-hw-offload: on
esp-tx-csum-hw-offload: on
rx-udp_tunnel-port-offload: on
tls-hw-tx-offload: off [fixed]
tls-hw-rx-offload: off [fixed]
rx-gro-hw: off [fixed]
tls-hw-record: off [fixed]
rx-gro-list: off
macsec-hw-offload: off [fixed]
rx-udp-gro-forwarding: off
hsr-tag-ins-offload: off [fixed]
hsr-tag-rm-offload: off [fixed]
hsr-fwd-offload: off [fixed]
hsr-dup-offload: off [fixed]
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            netblues @w0w
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            @w0w I see minor differences on the physical kvm interface, but I haven't done anything special, its at defaults.

            The mtu has been adjusted to 1508, but that can't be the issue. In any case, the brigded interfaces all use 1500 as mtu.

            As is, the same bridges are used at the same time by pfpls @25.07 pfplus @25.11rc and pfCE 2.8.1 with multiple pppoe connections over the same parent vlam.

            Only new rc fails to work as described above.

            ethtool -k enp1s0.31
Features for enp1s0.31:
rx-checksumming: off [fixed]
tx-checksumming: on
   tx-checksum-ipv4: off [fixed]
   tx-checksum-ip-generic: on
   tx-checksum-ipv6: off [fixed]
   tx-checksum-fcoe-crc: off [requested on]
   tx-checksum-sctp: off [requested on]
scatter-gather: on
   tx-scatter-gather: on
   tx-scatter-gather-fraglist: off [requested on]
tcp-segmentation-offload: on
   tx-tcp-segmentation: on
   tx-tcp-ecn-segmentation: on
   tx-tcp-mangleid-segmentation: on
   tx-tcp6-segmentation: on
generic-segmentation-offload: on
generic-receive-offload: on
large-receive-offload: off [fixed]
rx-vlan-offload: off [fixed]
tx-vlan-offload: off [fixed]
ntuple-filters: off [fixed]
receive-hashing: off [fixed]
highdma: on
rx-vlan-filter: off [fixed]
vlan-challenged: off [fixed]
tx-gso-robust: off [fixed]
tx-fcoe-segmentation: off [requested on]
tx-gre-segmentation: off [requested on]
tx-gre-csum-segmentation: off [requested on]
tx-ipxip4-segmentation: off [requested on]
tx-ipxip6-segmentation: off [requested on]
tx-udp_tnl-segmentation: off [requested on]
tx-udp_tnl-csum-segmentation: off [requested on]
tx-gso-partial: off [fixed]
tx-tunnel-remcsum-segmentation: off [fixed]
tx-sctp-segmentation: on
tx-esp-segmentation: off [fixed]
tx-udp-segmentation: on
tx-gso-list: on
tx-nocache-copy: off
loopback: off [fixed]
rx-fcs: off [fixed]
rx-all: off [fixed]
tx-vlan-stag-hw-insert: off [fixed]
rx-vlan-stag-hw-parse: off [fixed]
rx-vlan-stag-filter: off [fixed]
l2-fwd-offload: off [fixed]
hw-tc-offload: off [fixed]
esp-hw-offload: off [fixed]
esp-tx-csum-hw-offload: off [fixed]
rx-udp_tunnel-port-offload: off [fixed]
tls-hw-tx-offload: off [fixed]
tls-hw-rx-offload: off [fixed]
rx-gro-hw: off [fixed]
tls-hw-record: off [fixed]
rx-gro-list: off
macsec-hw-offload: off [fixed]
rx-udp-gro-forwarding: off
hsr-tag-ins-offload: off [fixed]
hsr-tag-rm-offload: off [fixed]
hsr-fwd-offload: off [fixed]
hsr-dup-offload: off [fixed]

            ethtool -k enp1s0.835
Features for enp1s0.835:
rx-checksumming: off [fixed]
tx-checksumming: on
	tx-checksum-ipv4: off [fixed]
	tx-checksum-ip-generic: on
	tx-checksum-ipv6: off [fixed]
	tx-checksum-fcoe-crc: off [requested on]
	tx-checksum-sctp: off [requested on]
scatter-gather: on
	tx-scatter-gather: on
	tx-scatter-gather-fraglist: off [requested on]
tcp-segmentation-offload: on
	tx-tcp-segmentation: on
	tx-tcp-ecn-segmentation: on
	tx-tcp-mangleid-segmentation: on
	tx-tcp6-segmentation: on
generic-segmentation-offload: on
generic-receive-offload: on
large-receive-offload: off [fixed]
rx-vlan-offload: off [fixed]
tx-vlan-offload: off [fixed]
ntuple-filters: off [fixed]
receive-hashing: off [fixed]
highdma: on
rx-vlan-filter: off [fixed]
vlan-challenged: off [fixed]
tx-gso-robust: off [fixed]
tx-fcoe-segmentation: off [requested on]
tx-gre-segmentation: off [requested on]
tx-gre-csum-segmentation: off [requested on]
tx-ipxip4-segmentation: off [requested on]
tx-ipxip6-segmentation: off [requested on]
tx-udp_tnl-segmentation: off [requested on]
tx-udp_tnl-csum-segmentation: off [requested on]
tx-gso-partial: off [fixed]
tx-tunnel-remcsum-segmentation: off [fixed]
tx-sctp-segmentation: on
tx-esp-segmentation: off [fixed]
tx-udp-segmentation: on
tx-gso-list: on
tx-nocache-copy: off
loopback: off [fixed]
rx-fcs: off [fixed]
rx-all: off [fixed]
tx-vlan-stag-hw-insert: off [fixed]
rx-vlan-stag-hw-parse: off [fixed]
rx-vlan-stag-filter: off [fixed]
l2-fwd-offload: off [fixed]
hw-tc-offload: off [fixed]
esp-hw-offload: off [fixed]
esp-tx-csum-hw-offload: off [fixed]
rx-udp_tunnel-port-offload: off [fixed]
tls-hw-tx-offload: off [fixed]
tls-hw-rx-offload: off [fixed]
rx-gro-hw: off [fixed]
tls-hw-record: off [fixed]
rx-gro-list: off
macsec-hw-offload: off [fixed]
rx-udp-gro-forwarding: off
hsr-tag-ins-offload: off [fixed]
hsr-tag-rm-offload: off [fixed]
hsr-fwd-offload: off [fixed]
hsr-dup-offload: off [fixed]

            ethtool -k enp1s0
Features for enp1s0:
rx-checksumming: on
tx-checksumming: on
	tx-checksum-ipv4: on
	tx-checksum-ip-generic: off [fixed]
	tx-checksum-ipv6: on
	tx-checksum-fcoe-crc: off [fixed]
	tx-checksum-sctp: off [fixed]
scatter-gather: on
	tx-scatter-gather: on
	tx-scatter-gather-fraglist: off [fixed]
tcp-segmentation-offload: on
	tx-tcp-segmentation: on
	tx-tcp-ecn-segmentation: off [fixed]
	tx-tcp-mangleid-segmentation: off
	tx-tcp6-segmentation: on
generic-segmentation-offload: on
generic-receive-offload: on
large-receive-offload: off [fixed]
rx-vlan-offload: on
tx-vlan-offload: on
ntuple-filters: off [fixed]
receive-hashing: on
highdma: on [fixed]
rx-vlan-filter: on [fixed]
vlan-challenged: off [fixed]
tx-gso-robust: off [fixed]
tx-fcoe-segmentation: off [fixed]
tx-gre-segmentation: off [fixed]
tx-gre-csum-segmentation: off [fixed]
tx-ipxip4-segmentation: off [fixed]
tx-ipxip6-segmentation: off [fixed]
tx-udp_tnl-segmentation: off [fixed]
tx-udp_tnl-csum-segmentation: off [fixed]
tx-gso-partial: off [fixed]
tx-tunnel-remcsum-segmentation: off [fixed]
tx-sctp-segmentation: off [fixed]
tx-esp-segmentation: off [fixed]
tx-udp-segmentation: off [fixed]
tx-gso-list: off [fixed]
tx-nocache-copy: off
loopback: off
rx-fcs: off
rx-all: off
tx-vlan-stag-hw-insert: off
rx-vlan-stag-hw-parse: on
rx-vlan-stag-filter: on [fixed]
l2-fwd-offload: off [fixed]
hw-tc-offload: off [fixed]
esp-hw-offload: off [fixed]
esp-tx-csum-hw-offload: off [fixed]
rx-udp_tunnel-port-offload: off [fixed]
tls-hw-tx-offload: off [fixed]
tls-hw-rx-offload: off [fixed]
rx-gro-hw: off [fixed]
tls-hw-record: off [fixed]
rx-gro-list: off
macsec-hw-offload: off [fixed]
rx-udp-gro-forwarding: off
hsr-tag-ins-offload: off [fixed]
hsr-tag-rm-offload: off [fixed]
hsr-fwd-offload: off [fixed]
hsr-dup-offload: off [fixed]
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            • stephenw10S Offline
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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              Can you ping across it with large packets?

              When ICMP passes and nothing else does it's usually either an MTU issue or some sort of asymmetric routing problem. But neither should have changed in 25.11.

              The packages widget issue is known: https://forum.netgate.com/topic/199375/zero-packages-install/

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                @stephenw10 Obviously yes

                ping 8.8.4.4 -l 1472 -f

                Pinging 8.8.4.4 with 1472 bytes of data:
                Reply from 8.8.4.4: bytes=1472 time=14ms TTL=112
                Reply from 8.8.4.4: bytes=1472 time=14ms TTL=112
                Reply from 8.8.4.4: bytes=1472 time=14ms TTL=112
                Reply from 8.8.4.4: bytes=1472 time=14ms TTL=112

                Ping statistics for 8.8.4.4:
                Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
                Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
                Minimum = 14ms, Maximum = 14ms, Average = 14ms

                And same config couldn't cause mtu issues imho too.

                And this is a plain vanila config, only one wan one lan interface, no policy routing, nothing fancy

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                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                  Yup I agree it shouldn't. But PPPoE has always had MTU/MSS requirements and if_pppoe specifically had an MSS issue previously.

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                    w0w @stephenw10
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                    @stephenw10 said in pfSense VM on Proxmox: PPPoE only works when parent NIC is PCI passthrough — virtual NIC breaks LAN→WAN traffic:

                    some sort of asymmetric routing problem.

                    I think these might be some of the commits on the FreeBSD side from the list I posted above. I don’t know whether Netgate uses the vanilla vtnet driver from FreeBSD 16 or their own custom patches. From what I can see, those checksum-related patches could potentially trigger this issue, but ifconfig vtnet0 -rxcsum -txcsum -tso -lro should disable this functionality, so I have no idea what is actually happening.

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                      w0w @stephenw10
                      last edited by w0w

                      @stephenw10 said in pfSense VM on Proxmox: PPPoE only works when parent NIC is PCI passthrough — virtual NIC breaks LAN→WAN traffic:

                      and if_pppoe

                      BTW, mpd have the same issue. More precisely, the bug is not related to if_pppoe or mpd5, since it appears the same way with both.

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                        w0w @netblues
                        last edited by

                        @netblues

                        Do you have the same settings?

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                          @w0w Sure. As I said, default installation with minimal setup, just to make the lan to nat over pppoe to the Internets.

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                            w0w @netblues
                            last edited by w0w

                            @netblues
                            Just for reference, what hardware is used actually to run the hypervisor and version of the hypervisor?

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