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    • M
      mmiller
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      Does anyone have a source for the WG FIrebox X8000 hard drive caddy in the United States?

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        neotec_de
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        @Steve:

        First of all… Thanks for the great infos till now.
        It works great for me at my X8510e-F --> LCD/LED driver works like a charme.
        At which time you plan a watchguard package for 2.0?

        But now....
        I have a problem to get access to the bios (X8000) --> same biosversion like your box.
        I flashed the bios with the help of your CF-image and of course with the /cc switch  :)
        biosid.com says it's ok --> your new "Steves" bios-messages shows up.
        But still no boot info shows up at start in the consolewindow.

        There are still any secret steps to show it up?  ???

        BTW: The J3 connector on the PSU-Board is for a 12V fan.

        Alex

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        • stephenw10S
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
          last edited by

          @neotec_de:

          At which time you plan a watchguard package for 2.0?

          When I learn some proper programming skills.  ::)

          @neotec_de:

          But still no boot info shows up at start in the consolewindow.

          There are still any secret steps to show it up?  ???

          I take it you're not using a keyboard on the ps/2 connector?

          The 'console redirect' function in the bios is very buggy.
          To see anything using just the serial console you have to press keys. I don't know why, it should just show the POST but it doesn't.
          Start pressing tab and enter as soon as you power on the box and keep pressing them until you see something.
          If you really want to change something in the bios you'll need to hook up a keyboard directly.

          How do you know that about J3?

          Steve

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            neotec_de
            last edited by

            Ok. I will give it a try tomorrow.

            The greenwire is marked with "ON/OFF" –> have a look at the atx-power-connector.
            The PSU is a standard one, but without a case.
            And so imho is it the connector for the case fan.  ;)
            It delivers 12V and GROUND.

            Alex

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              neotec_de
              last edited by

              It works!  :)

              Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG, An Energy Star Ally
              Copyright (C) 1984-2003, Phoenix Technologies, LTD
              
              Modified by Steve for 115200 console.
              
              Main Processor : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz(133x21.0)
              Memory Testing :  524288K OK
              CPU Brand Name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz
              
                Memory Frequency For DDR333  (Dual Channel Mode Enabled)
                Primary Master : SanDisk SDCFB-128 Vdi 1.24
                 Primary Slave : None
              Secondary Master : None
               Secondary Slave : FUJITSU MHT2060BH 0000104A
              
                                         Phoenix Technologies, LTD
                                           System Configurations
              +==============================================================================+
              | CPU Type   : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU  Base Memory       :    640K          |
              | CPU ID/ucod: 0F29/17                    Extended Memory   : 523264K          |
              | CPU Clock  : 2.80GHz                    Cache Memory      :    512K          |
              |------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
              | Diskette Drive A  : None                Display Type      : MONO             |
              | Diskette Drive B  : None                Serial Port(s)    : 3F8 2F8          |
              | Pri. Master Disk  : LRG,PIO 4,  128MB   Parallel Port(s)  : 378              |
              | Pri. Slave  Disk  : None                DDR at Bank(s)    : 0 2              |
              | Sec. Master Disk  : None                                                     |
              | Sec. Slave  Disk  : LRG,ATA 100,59599MB                                      |
              +==============================================================================+
              
              PCI device listing ...
              Bus No. Device No. Func No. Vendor/Device Class Device Class               IRQ
              --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                 0       29         0     8086   25A9   0C03  USB 1.0/1.1 UHCI Cntrlr     10
                 0       29         1     8086   25AA   0C03  USB 1.0/1.1 UHCI Cntrlr      5
                 0       29         4     8086   25AB   0880  Base Sys. Peripherals       NA
                 0       29         5     8086   25AC   0800  I/O(X) APIC Cntrlr          NA
                 0       31         2     8086   25A3   0101  IDE CntrlrCI Cntrlr         14
                 0       31         3     8086   25A4   0C05  SMBus Cntrlr                12
                 2        1         0     8086   1075   0200  Network Cntrlr              11
                 3       13         0     16AE   000A   1000  En/Decryption Cntrlr         9
                 3       14         0     8086   1079   0200  Network Cntrlr               9
                 3       14         1     8086   1079   0200  Network Cntrlr               9
                 4        9         0     8086   1209   0200  Network Cntrlr               5
                 4       10         0     8086   1209   0200  Network Cntrlr              11
                 4       11         0     8086   1209   0200  Network Cntrlr              12
                 4       12         0     8086   1209   0200  Network Cntrlr              10
                 4       13         0     8086   1209   0200  Network Cntrlr               5
                 4       14         0     8086   1209   0200  Network Cntrlr              11
                 4       15         0     8086   1209   0200  Network Cntrlr              12
              
              Updating ESCD ... Success
              Building DMI Pool ............................ Success
              

              Additionaly I've soldered in the two SATA-Ports.
              Both of them are working!
              The Sec. Slave Disk from the postscreen is an SATA 2,5" HDD.

              Alex

              X8000_SATA.JPG
              X8000_SATA.JPG_thumb

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                last edited by

                Nice work! :)

                Does it boot from SATA? Did you have to solder any other components or just the connectors?

                Looking good.  ;D

                Steve

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                  neotec_de
                  last edited by

                  No other components. Just the connectors.
                  Trying to boot from is the next step.
                  Stay tuned….

                  Alex

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                    mmiller
                    last edited by

                    Does anyone know the name of the connector that serves as a conversion between the 2.5 44 pin interface to the swap able caddy interface.  It has to have a name.

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                      mmiller
                      last edited by

                      After winning my X8000 on ebay I did some searching for the SafeXcel 1841 and found this PDF.  I think someone might have already posted it.  In the PDF SafeNet states they have FreeBSD OS support.  I.E. They have drivers for FreeBSD.  I was a little shocked that it was not covered under the safe(4) driver.  If I don't hear from them in a few more days I am going to send another e-mail asking for a update.  It looks like OpenBSD has the documentation for the SafeNet 1840 chip.  http://www.openbsd.org/crypto.html

                      http://www.safenet-inc.com/WorkArea/DownloadAsset.aspx?id=8589938686

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                        last edited by

                        I have never found a name for the adapter, although I'm sure the interface has a name.
                        I found it by using Google Image search.  ::)

                        I have spent far too much time Googling the Safenet 1841, don't let me put you off though. I believe that Safenet will only allow you access to their driver support if you've bought their SDK at vast expense. You probably have to sign a NDA. The resulting driver wouldn't be free so unlikely to make it into FreeBSD. OpenBSD have had that message on their crypto page for a long time (at least 2006) which is a shame. I guess there's a more drive to support newer hardware and the 1841 is now quite old. It's way more powerful than the 1141 and 1171 supported by safe(4) though.

                        Steve

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                        • M
                          mmiller
                          last edited by

                          I noticed that someone in another thread had said the connector was the same as a "Dell Inspiron 5000 5000E HDD Adapter".  So I ordered one to see if it would work out.  I guess I'll have to figure out a way of making some rails for the drive.

                          I'm hoping that safenet will give me a binary blob.  I might also ping a openbsd dev I know to see if they know the status of the safenet 1841 driver.  I'll have to see how they respond when I send them a follow up e-mail on June 6th.

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                            mmiller
                            last edited by

                            Has anyone has any watchdog timing errors pop up on 2.0 RC2?  or any other version?  I know some of the x700 people complained about them.  It looks like all the checksum offloading is turn on currently.

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                            • stephenw10S
                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                              last edited by

                              If you can get any sort of driver working it would be great.  :)
                              It's a powerful and relatively expensive (for the time) chip and at the moment it just sits there consuming 3W and getting hot.

                              I've never had any problem with any of the interfaces on the X-peak. They are all Intel so I wouldn't expect to. The X-core has Realtek NICs and they are far more troublesome, especially the 10/100 type.

                              Steve

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                                mmiller
                                last edited by

                                That is what I figured.  I'm looking to replace the fan's and I've founds some that look like they will work.  The only issue is it would be nice if I could get variable speed fans.  I think I saw someone say that they require 4 pin connectors vs 3.  How many pins are on the board?  Am I stuck getting non-variable speed fans because the mother board only has a three pin connector?

                                I'm thinking about the following.
                                http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835119050

                                Do you think a 40x40x28mm fan would fit?

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                                • stephenw10S
                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                  last edited by

                                  They are three pin connectors on the board and they aren't controllable via software (as far as I know). Four pin connectors are usually for PWM fans, where the speed controller is in the fan, but you can get speed control on three pin fans, the X-E boxes can do that.
                                  You could use a manual speed controller but you'd have to do some modding, it's a bit of a speeze in the fan casing anyway.

                                  I only replaced the fans in my box after I had replaced the CPU with one that drew a lot less power. The original P4 2.8 gets quite hot.

                                  Steve

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                                    fastcon68
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                                    I just bought a x6000.  I waiting for it to get here.  I want to add a either sata or ide drive.  Can I connect a usb drive and boot from that.  I am going to use the encrypt card from my x500.

                                    Has everyone tried the gb interface.
                                    RC

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                                    • stephenw10S
                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                      last edited by

                                      The gigabit interfaces work fine.
                                      I've never managed to get it to boot from USB directly. USB drives can be mounted under pfSense though. Perhaps it could be chain loaded by FreeBSD's bootloader or one of the other bootloaders available.

                                      Steve

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                                        mmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        I'll also second that the em gige interfaces work fine.  I tried using a 1 gig CF card and it wouldn't boot from it.  I'm currently booting off a 512 mb CF card.  I'm thinking I can move some of the storage off to a hard drive.  What success has everyone had with that option?  I would really like to get a 4 gig CF card working with out having to load a new bios image.  Does anyone have a list of known working CF cards?

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                                          fastcon68
                                          last edited by

                                          I am using sandisk CF cards.  I have not had any issues.
                                          RC

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                                          • M
                                            mmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            What side of sandisk CF?

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