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    • S
      saso
      last edited by

      Hi all,

      I'm trying to setup quarter and half (5 and 10mhz) channels on atheros wireless card, but what I see from the console messages in pf2.0 RC1 I can only setup 20 and 40 MHz.
      5 and 10 MHz seem not be accepted. Any idea about that?
      Please any help or suggestion is highly apperciated.

      thanks
      Saso

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      • jimpJ
        jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
        last edited by

        Are you sure the card actually supports them?

        Look at the output of "ifconfig -m" - I think it shows valid channel width settings for cards that support them.

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          saso
          last edited by

          Thanks Jimp for the answer,

          I'll verify, but it sounds very strange because it's a mikrotik mini-pci and when is fitted in the routerboard can support 5 and 10 MHz. So it shouldn't a hw limitation. Anywhere I'll have a look in to this command to find some more information.

          thanks again

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          • jimpJ
            jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
            last edited by

            But is the mikrotik board running FreeBSD?

            It may also be a driver limitation.

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              saso
              last edited by

              Hi Jimp,

              sorry for my late answer but I was outside for business trip. Pf is running on Alix board and only the mini-pci comes from mikrotik R52. What I get from ifconfig -m is here below, but I don't see anythyng about half and quarter mode:

              ath0: flags=8843 <up,broadcast,running,simplex,multicast>metric 0 mtu 2290
                      ether 00:0c:42:63:7f:f7
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              pfsync0: flags=0<> metric 0 mtu 1460
                      syncpeer: 224.0.0.240 maxupd: 128</up,broadcast,running,simplex,multicast>

              What do you think about the output? It seems like not supported!!!!

              thanks

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              • jimpJ
                jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                last edited by

                Looks like I was wrong about it being listed there. It should be able to be specified along with the channel in the same way:

                From ifconfig(8):

                channel number
                            Set a single desired channel.  Channels range from 1 to 255, but
                            the exact selection available depends on the region your adaptor
                            was manufactured for.  Setting the channel to any, or - will
                            clear any desired channel and, if the device is marked up, force
                            a scan for a channel to operate on.  Alternatively the frequency,
                            in megahertz, may be specified instead of the channel number.

                When there are several ways to use a channel the channel num-
                            ber/frequency may be appended with attributes to clarify.  For
                            example, if a device is capable of operating on channel 6 with
                            802.11n and 802.11g then one can specify that g-only use should
                            be used by specifying 6:g''.  Similarly the channel width can             be specified by appending it with /''; e.g. 6/40'' specifies             a 40MHz wide channel, These attributes can be combined as in:             6:ht/40''.  The full set of flags specified following a `:''
                            are: a (802.11a), b (802.11b), d (Atheros Dynamic Turbo mode), g
                            (802.11g), h or n (802.11n aka HT), s (Atheros Static Turbo
                            mode), and t (Atheros Dynamic Turbo mode, or appended to st''             and dt'').  The full set of channel widths following a '/' are:
                            5 (5MHz aka quarter-rate channel), 10 (10MHz aka half-rate chan-
                            nel), 20 (20MHz mostly for use in specifying ht20), and 40 (40MHz
                            mostly for use in specifying ht40), In addition, a 40MHz HT chan-
                            nel specification may include the location of the extension chan-
                            nel by appending +'' or -'' for above and below, respec-
                            tively; e.g. ``2437:ht/40+'' specifies 40MHz wide HT operation
                            with the center channel at frequency 2437 and the extension chan-
                            nel above.

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                • jimpJ
                  jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                  last edited by

                  It doesn't show for me, but you can also look at:

                  ifconfig ath0_wlan0 list chan
                  

                  I haven't tried to set the lower widths by hand though.

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                  • S
                    saso
                    last edited by

                    The result of

                    ifconfig wlan0 list chan
                    Channel  1 : 2412  MHz 11g          Channel  48 : 5240  MHz 11a Turbo
                    Channel  2 : 2417  MHz 11g          Channel  50 : 5250  MHz 11a Turbo
                    Channel  3 : 2422  MHz 11g          Channel  52 : 5260  MHz 11a
                    Channel  4 : 2427  MHz 11g          Channel  56 : 5280  MHz 11a Turbo
                    Channel  5 : 2432  MHz 11g          Channel  58 : 5290  MHz 11a Turbo
                    Channel  6 : 2437  MHz 11g Turbo    Channel  60 : 5300  MHz 11a
                    Channel  7 : 2442  MHz 11g          Channel  64 : 5320  MHz 11a
                    Channel  8 : 2447  MHz 11g          Channel 149 : 5745  MHz 11a
                    Channel  9 : 2452  MHz 11g          Channel 152 : 5760  MHz 11a Turbo
                    Channel  10 : 2457  MHz 11g          Channel 153 : 5765  MHz 11a Turbo
                    Channel  11 : 2462  MHz 11g          Channel 157 : 5785  MHz 11a
                    Channel  36 : 5180  MHz 11a          Channel 160 : 5800  MHz 11a Turbo
                    Channel  40 : 5200  MHz 11a Turbo    Channel 161 : 5805  MHz 11a Turbo
                    Channel  42 : 5210  MHz 11a Turbo    Channel 165 : 5825  MHz 11a
                    Channel  44 : 5220  MHz 11a

                    When I try to setup a smaller chennel bandwidth, I get this message (even with 10MHz )

                    ifconfig wlan0 create wlandev ath0 channel 40/5
                    ifconfig: unknown/undefined channel number 40 flags 0x8000

                    Really I don't know if it's a pfsense driver limitation or are not supported by this card.
                    Regards

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                    • jimpJ
                      jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                      last edited by

                      Try using 40:a/5

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                      • S
                        saso
                        last edited by

                        Hi Jimp,

                        really thanks for your help, but executing the

                        ifconfig wlan0 create wlandev ath0 channel 40:a/5

                        I get the following error
                        ifconfig: unknown/undefined channel number 40 flags 0x8140

                        I don't know if it's some bug or limitation related to the driver included in the freebsd 8.x

                        regards

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                        • jimpJ
                          jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                          last edited by

                          If the variations with 20 and 40 work for width, but 5/10 do not, then I'd guess it's a driver limitation for that card

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                            saso
                            last edited by

                            Hi Jimp,

                            I was guessing the same thing. From your experience (I don't know if you have tested many wifi cards), can you suggest me one mini-pci card supporting 5 and 10 MHz?

                            Thanks for your help

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                            • jimpJ
                              jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                              last edited by

                              To be honest, I didn't even know it was an option until you mentioned it, so I have no more ideas.

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