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Not sure how you even got to 2.0.2, it's not supposed to be available for anyone other than us.
It was made clear months ago that 2.0.2 was not intended for public consumption at the time.
It went from rc1 to rc2 to rc3 to rc4 to 2.0.2 Release….and then it vanished.But not a peep.
Not a word in the forum.
Not a press release.
Not a hint.
Not a word anywhere.2.0.2 release is excellent!
It has behaved even better than 2.0.1 release for me.I have no doubt that the PFSense group has a very good reason for the things it does.
Is it reasonable to ask why that reason is such a secret?
NOT what the reason is. Just why it's such a big secret. -
I heard there was a place if you searched hard enough for it. Personally, I have it cause I have a build environment and I built it once JimP incremented the version.
I have only installed it in the Lab for some testing.BTW … a BIG thanks for all the work put into making this a great open source project.
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we have some things going on behind the scenes at the moment that is taking up a lot of our time. It'll come as soon as we have time.
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No rush. I think it is better to take your time and get it perfect than to rush and miss something. Again, thanks for all you guys do!
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"behind the scenes"
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Nope, just time! The images are actually built and ready to go from a technical standpoint, there's just a bunch of hoopla to go through (signing the images, pushing them to the servers, preparing the release announcement, and so on) that we haven't had time to wrap it up all the way because of other things going on.
They'll be up soon :-)
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When the developers are busy, this is can be good thing. Just have patience, they will get it released.
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Oh it's nothing bad, just lots to do, on the commercial support side and on the personal side.
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When the developers are busy, this is can be good thing. Just have patience, they will get it released.
Pod….The original inquiry wasn't inspired by impatience.
2.0 was developed in the light of day.
Builds were systematically made available as procedure.
Downloading and evaluation was encouraged.
Issues were discussed and bug reports solicited.
The RC's were openly and widely discussed.
And the "Release" remained available just like all the builds that preceeded it.2.0.1 was developed in the light of day.
Builds were systematically made available as procedure.
Downloading and evaluation was encouraged.
Issues were discussed and bug reports solicited.
The RC's were openly and widely discussed.
And the "Release" remained available just like all the builds that preceeded it.Then something changed.
From it's beginning 2.0.2 was unannounced, not discussed nor made public.
And when it reached "Release" status it disappeared.As the original post indicated, the PFSense group has very good reasons for the things it does.
The decision to develop 2.0.2 in the dark was made some 4 or 5 months ago.
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That's an interesting point you make.
From what I understand 2.0.2 is/will be a bug fix release so perhaps extensive beta testing was not required. By the time 2.0.2 was on the cards 2.1 was being actively tested with daily snapshots. Only a few months ago it was hoped that 2.1 would be released in time for IPv6 day and then by BSDCan. However this didn't happen and personally I'd much rather it was delayed than released with bugs. However I've inferred most of this so I'm open to correction! ;)I can see how having both 2.0.2 and 2.1 in beta testing could cause endless confusion.
Steve
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Actually 2.0.1 wasn't all that public either, since there was a security vulnerability announcement involved.
The commits and such for 2.0.2 have always been out there, the snapshots were even there if you know where to look, it's just not very exciting compared to people talking about 2.1 ;-)
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And yes, 2.0.2 is a maintenance release, so changes are fairly minor, though there are some more significant things in there (like the NTP changes).
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Looks pretty exciting to me.
Particularly switching ntp daemon. ;D
Thanks Jim.Steve
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Pod….The original inquiry wasn't inspired by impatience.
Most of the time a post like this is made with a little inspiration from a lack of patience.
2.0.1 was not widely known at all. You had to be watching github to even know it was being worked on. There were snapshots, but everyone who was on the release didn't know about it from the autoupdate but had to go to the snapshot server. 2.0 got the same attention that 2.1 is getting.
With 2.0.2, it is basically the same without the snapshot server having the images. You could still watch github for the changes. I didn't know where to look to get the snapshots, but that is okay, I am testing 2.1 not 2.0.2. For the few system I have running 2.0 series only one is a "lab" machine and the rest are production. I am not loading snapshots on production firewalls.
Like I said, I did have a build server to create my 2.0.2, and those who knew where to get it got it and was helping test. I saw a few posts in the forums about 2.0.2. I don't really watch the mailing list, so I am not sure about it being there or not.
I am not sure about the disappearance. Perhaps they needed the space back for 2.1 snaphots. If that is the case, then more 2.1 please.
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The 2.0.2 snapshots were up while it was actually doing snapshots. Now that the release images have been built, they are shut down (as we always do close to a release) to avoid having someone out there with a build labeled "2.0.2-RELEASE" that is not actually the release. If we find something that needs fixed, their now outdated image wouldn't know it needed updated.
So at the moment we're just doing what we've always done… It's just a little delayed due to lack of time to get it all in place.
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Thanks JimP, I stand correct on the snapshots for 2.0.2.
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When will it be released Jim and thanks for the brilliant work so far!
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As I said earlier, very soon, as soon as we have time to finish up the whole release process.
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Has there been any movement on a 2.0.2 release? Will it be out before 2.1, which is supposed to be out very soon itself?
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There really isn't anything holding back 2.0.2 still, just time.
2.1 has plenty of things holding it back.
