New computer with PFSense?



  • I have no Idea what exactly PFSense is, nor do I have the technical know-how to really know. My question is, How can I get rid of this program that starts up when I power on my computer and how do I get it to go away? I just bought this used computer and I had planned to use it for work. However, it's looking obsolete since I can't get to the start-up menu or desktop or anything like that. Help?



  • What is starting up when you turn on the computer?

    Also, why don't you flip the computer over, get the model number and manufacturer and list that also.



  • You bought a used computer that boots to pfsense and don't know how to load an OS cause you want it to be used as a PC correct?  :P

    You going to need an OS install disc of your choice which will be Windows XP, 7.. Or even Ubuntu. Boot to the CD and follow the instructions.  You will definitely need an installation disc,  look around on the computer does it have a Microsoft sticker on it with the product keys?  Cause you'll need that too if you going to run windows or you could buy a fresh copy.

    Why would someone sell a PC that still has a firewall installation on it?  Seems silly to me,  they could have at least told you what you were buying.



  • Computer model number would make it possible to estimate what will run well on it.


  • Netgate Administrator

    That is a new question!  ;)

    It may be setup to dual boot pfSense and some other OS (like Windows, Ubuntu etc) but that is not normally the case. By default pfSense removes everything else when it's installed. Do you see a boot loader menu before pfSense starts booting? It will be plain white text on a black background.

    Steve



  • I'm getting this feeling like someone grabbed something in the dark of night in a strange house not understanding what they had.


  • Netgate Administrator

    A bit harsh perhaps?  ;)

    Steve



  • Perhaps I should have added:

    …and sold it on ebay to an unsuspecting customer.

    Anyway - I'd put Mint on it with a simple MATE interface.  Its free and works beautifully on older hardware.
    OR - Perhaps even better...  Use it for pfsense.

    Pfsense is a very nice firewall/router.  Its a good chance to get acquainted with it.



  • @bones123:

    You bought a used computer that boots to pfsense and don't know how to load an OS cause you want it to be used as a PC correct?  :P

    You going to need an OS install disc of your choice which will be Windows XP, 7.. Or even Ubuntu. Boot to the CD and follow the instructions.  You will definitely need an installation disc,  look around on the computer does it have a Microsoft sticker on it with the product keys?  Cause you'll need that too if you going to run windows or you could buy a fresh copy.

    Why would someone sell a PC that still has a firewall installation on it?  Seems silly to me,  they could have at least told you what you were buying.

    So all I need to do is Have another OS install disk (With the product key) and stick it in the disk tray during start-up? Or do I have to press a certain key at start-up to keep it from going into the PFSense menu? Thank you all for the help.



  • Often, just need to get an OS disk, drop in the DVD tray and reboot.

    IF it doesn't boot from CD, might need to go into bios, usually either delete or f2 during boot, and change and save bios setting to boot from cd.



  • Verifying DMI Pool Data…...........
    Boot from CD:

    F1 FreeBDG

    F1
    /

    Then alijndvciajncajnfdjdf And i bunch of other stuff I cant understand. Then:

    Welcome to PFSense!  >:(



  • The boot menu is usually between F9-F12. Press each one individually over and over at startup to see if you can get a boot menu to show up. Put in your preferred OS disk, and boot from CD.



  • The funny thing is for most people on this forum that would be a good thing.  :P



  • He probably doesn't have email notifications enabled either.



  • You think?



  • @kejianshi:

    The funny thing is for most people on this forum that would be a good thing.  :P

    Lol that is funny



  • What kind of disk did you have in the CD tray when you booted up?



  • @N00b:

    Verifying DMI Pool Data…...........
    Boot from CD:
    Uo
    F1 FreeBDG

    F1
    /

    Then alijndvciajncajnfdjdf And i bunch of other stuff I cant understand. Then:

    Welcome to PFSense!  >:(

    I wouldn't even bother with that computer if I was you,  one of pfsense's major advantages is that it can run on old outdated hardware.  I'm not going to waste any more time till you post exactly what you got.  I want manufacture, model, and if its a dell the service tag number so we can see what hardware is installed in it.



  • It would be cool if we could get that angry face added to the end of the boot sequence of pfsense.  Its cute.



  • @bones123:

    @N00b:

    Verifying DMI Pool Data…...........
    Boot from CD:
    Uo
    F1 FreeBDG

    F1
    /

    Then alijndvciajncajnfdjdf And i bunch of other stuff I cant understand. Then:

    Welcome to PFSense!  >:(

    I wouldn't even bother with that computer if I was you,  one of pfsense's major advantages is that it can run on old outdated hardware.  I'm not going to waste any more time till you post exactly what you got.  I want manufacture, model, and if its a dell the service tag number so we can see what hardware is installed in it.

    emachines- Model No.ET1161-03
    Origanally had Windows Vista Home Premium with SP1
    AMD Athlon X2 4400 Processor
    Nividia GeForce 6150 SE
    Some High end disk tray thing
    320 GB Hard Drive
    3GB DDR2
    15-in-1 Memory Card Reader? (If that's even remotely relevent)

    Also burned a Windows Vista Home Premium Disk 32 bit and slapped that into the disk drive. Then went into the advanced Bios and set it so it read the disk first, then pressed some F-whatever key and also had the boot-up start with the disk in the disk tray. Here is the message I received: DISK BOOT FAILURE, INSERT SYSTEM DISK AND PRESS ENTER

    Anyone have a clue what I did wrong here?

    Thanks thus far.



  • ALSO burned on a DVD+R Memorex disk holding 4.7 GB total memory. If that's any help as well.



  • If you are very new to this kind of stuff, and you want a cheap and fast computer that is very secure, try linux MINT with MATE desktop.  It will make good use of that computer and will run very well on its limited resources compared to windows.  And its free.

    I suspect you didn't set up the correct boot order in bios.

    I'd suspect that pressing the del key on boot gets you into bios.

    I'd bet that advanced bios is where you can select boot order (Which you should set to CD 1st and HDD 2nd)

    Then press the F10 key and save and reboot.

    (BTW - How to blow away pfsense and replace it with a Desktop OS isn't strictly speaking what people do here)



  • @stephenw10:

    That is a new question!  ;)

    It may be setup to dual boot pfSense and some other OS (like Windows, Ubuntu etc) but that is not normally the case. By default pfSense removes everything else when it's installed. Do you see a boot loader menu before pfSense starts booting? It will be plain white text on a black background.

    Steve

    I do! But it automatically shifts to PFSense after 5 seconds I think and it doesn't look like anything OS related.



  • @bones123:

    You bought a used computer that boots to pfsense and don't know how to load an OS cause you want it to be used as a PC correct?  :P

    You going to need an OS install disc of your choice which will be Windows XP, 7.. Or even Ubuntu. Boot to the CD and follow the instructions.  You will definitely need an installation disc,  look around on the computer does it have a Microsoft sticker on it with the product keys?  Cause you'll need that too if you going to run windows or you could buy a fresh copy.

    Why would someone sell a PC that still has a firewall installation on it?  Seems silly to me,  they could have at least told you what you were buying.

    I've also tried an Ubuntu Installation Disk, however, it was a CD+R and putting that in the disk drive yielded no results whereas putting the Windows


  • Netgate Administrator

    I'd be surprised if it was setup to dual boot. pfSense has a boot menu of sorts itself, that's probably what you're seeing.

    Getting down to basics here, perhaps the DVD drive has been disconnected? That is something someone might do for security purposes to prevent a random OS being booted when it was serving as a firewall. Or the cable might have just fallen out!
    When you go into the BIOS setup does it show the DVD drive as being connected anywhere?
    The DVD drive might be broken or very dusty so it's not recognising the disk. You could try booting from a USB drive with Ubuntu on it (see ubuntu website for instructions).

    Steve



  • My 2 cents….

    Download an ISO Image of Hiren's BootCD, Version 9 or older ( this is more simple to use ) and burn to CD

    Check the BIOS as mentioned in the posts above. Make CD/DVD boot BEFORE HDD or use F12 to select boot options and choose boot from CD/DVD.

    Reboot into the Hiren's Disc, on screen one, hit enter on the MORE line in options, on the SECOND DOS screen select MBR Tools, on the next screen select option 1
    MBR Work 1.04b. Click enter on all options CHANGE NOTHING including swap files and it will open.

    When it opens, select option 3, then enter then Y then enter, then select option 4 click Y and then enter, then select option 5 click Y then select number 2 click Y then enter. This makes the HDD read as NEW (RAW) and any data that was once on it is unrecoverable. This method is like a level 9 DOD wipe, and any previous data on it is gone forever, i have tried this many times, and NO DATA RECOVERY SOFTWARE available has ever found anything on any HDD i have wiped this way, so you should have no trouble installing anything new.

    Click E to exit MBRWork the screen will come up to R:// with a blinking cursor.

    Remove the Hiren's disc from the CD/DVD drive, and replace it with your Windows,Ubuntu or other O/S disc.
    Type reboot and it should start into the install of the O/S you have chosen, then just follow the prompts to install your new system.

    Overall this is not a bad PC, would be fine for most user's not into games

    Specs :

    Processor
    Processor type Athlon 64 X2 4400+
    Processor speed 2300.0 MHz
    Memory
    Memory size 3072.0 MB
    Display
    Included monitor No
    Graphics
    Primary Graphics Chipset Nvidia GeForce 6150SE
    Video Bus Integrated
    Video Memory Type Using main memory
    Storage
    Raid type none
    Drive size 320.0 GB
    Expansion slots
    Open PCI Express X16 Slots 2.0
    Open PCI Express X1 Slots 1.0
    Number of PCI slots 3.0
    Number of PCI-Express Slots 1.0
    Green
    Energy Star compliant 0.0
    Optical Drive
    Optical Drive Type DVD±RW
    Included Software
    Operating System Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (32 bit)
    Ports and Connections
    Ethernet Type Ethernet (10/100 Mbps)
    Available Interfaces

    USB - Universal Serial Bus (rear) (x4)
        USB - Universal Serial Bus (front) (x2)

    Slots 3
    Parallel Port No
    Case
    Chassis style Tower (Mini)
    Internal Drive Bays 2
    External Drive Bays 3

    As a general use, or student PC this would be fine. Would make an excellent Office PC as was wanted aswell.

    Drivers for Windows are here :

    http://support.gateway.com/us/en/emac/product/default.aspx?modelId=1299

    I would install Vista Ultimate as the O/S, to make use of the shared memory and easier security control. If you need a copy let me know by PM.


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