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    • J
      jeroen234
      last edited by

      olsr can do this
      you need a pfsense server with 3 network cards
      wan,lan,opt1

      give all the pfsense opt1 network cards ipadress in the same network range
      open a shell on the pfsense server
      cd /usr/local/etc
      nano olsrd.conf
      type this in:

      DebugLevel      2
      IpVersion      4
      ClearScreen    yes

      HNA IPv4 routes

      syntax: netaddr netmask

      Example Internet gateway:

      0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0

      Hna4
      {
      #  Internet gateway:
      #  0.0.0.0      0.0.0.0
      #  more entries can be added:
      #  192.168.1.0  255.255.255.0
      #10.141.254.0    255.255.255.0
      10.141.250.0    255.255.255.0
      0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0
      }

      close the file with control + X
      the 10.141.250.0 in the file is the local lan network you want to broadcast to the olsrd mesh so that clients on a other olsrd pfsense server can conect to that
      the 0.0.0.0 in the file is telling the olsrd mesh that tiss olsrd node has a internet conection and that olsrd pfsense servers can use that one if don't have 1 or lost one

      start olsrd
      olsrd -i xl0 >> /dev/null &
      replace xl0 with youre opt1 card

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        aldo
        last edited by

        do the other boxes with the ospf netowrk need to have oslr as well i guess to allow for the routing to go cleanly
        is there anyway of importing oslr routes into ospf to stop a redesign of an already functioning ospf network.

        looks like you might have an answer is this theroy or practical. does it really work what sort of hardware requirements

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          jeroen234
          last edited by

          all the pfsense servers need to run olsrd witch is all ready on the pfsense server instald by default
          more info on olsrd you find here:
          http://www.olsr.org/
          olsrd is most used on wireless networks
          so that you can put a node on a high tower and forget about the routing stuf
          you do only the local routing stuf
          the rest olsr will find out by him self
          if one node breaks down the olsrd network will route the routes around the problem
          if a new node is installed and has a faster route then a -> b then the network will use the faster route
          so it's not only reporting of it has internet or not
          its also reporting witch nodes it can see and how fast the route to them is and wat routes a laying behind the olsrd network node that don't use olsrd like the local lan network
          so that that can be conect from all the olsrd servers

          youre network will look somving like this:

          lan 10.0.0.0/24
                                            |   
                                            |
                        Wan1–------pfsense 1
                                            |
                                            | 
                          192.168.1.1  opt1 (olsrd)------olsrd network ------|
                                                                                          |       
                                                                                          |
                                                                                          |
                                            Lan 10.0.1.0/24                          |       
                                              |                                            |
                            Wan1--------pfsense 2                                  |
                                              |                                          |
                                              |                                          |
                            192.168.1.2  opt1(olsrd)---------olsrd network-----|---(etc)
                                                                                          |
                                                                                          |
                                            Lan  10.0.2.0/24                        | 
                                            |                                            |
                                            |                                            |
                      Wan1--------pfsense 3                                        |
                                            |                                            |
                                            |                                            |
                        192.168.1.3    opt1(olsrd)--------olsrd network--------|
                                                                                          |                   
                                                                                          |
                              Lan  10.0.3.0/24                                      | 
                                            |                                            |
                                            |                                            |
                                      -pfsense 4                                        |
                                            |                                            |
                                            |                                            |
                        192.168.1.4    wan(olsrd)--------olsrd network-------

          pfsense server 1 on 192.168.1.1 will report
            it has internet and a direct route to 10.0.0.0/24
            a route to node 192.168.1.2
            a route to node 192.168.1.3
            a route to node 192.168.1.4
            a route to 10.0.1.0/24 via 192.168.1.2 / 192.168.1.3 / 192.168.1.4
            a route to 10.0.2.0/24 via 192.168.1.3 / 192.168.1.2 / 192.168.1.4
            a route to 10.0.3.0/24 via 192.168.1.4 / 192.168.1.2 / 192.168.1.3
            a route to 0.0.0.0 via 192.168.1.2
            a route to 0.0.0.0 via 192.168.1.3

          pfsense server 2 on 192.168.1.2 will report
            it has internet and a direct route to 10.0.1.0/24
            a route to node 192.168.1.1
            a route to node 192.168.1.3
            a route to node 192.168.1.4
            a route to 10.0.0.0/24 via 192.168.1.1 / 192.168.1.3 / 192.168.1.4
            a route to 10.0.2.0/24 via 192.168.1.3 / 192.168.1.1 / 192.168.1.4
            a route to 10.0.3.0/24 via 192.168.1.4 / 192.168.1.1 / 192.168.1.3
                a route to 0.0.0.0  via 192.168.1.3
            a route to 0.0.0.0 via 192.168.1.1

          pfsense server 3 on 192.168.1.3 will report
            it has internet and a direct route to 10.0.2.0/24
            a route to node 192.168.1.1
            a route to node 192.168.1.2
            a route to node 192.168.1.4
            a route to 10.0.0.0/24 via 192.168.1.1 / 192.168.1.2 / 192.168.1.4
            a route to 10.0.1.0/24 via 192.168.1.2 / 192.168.1.1 / 192.168.1.4
            a route to 10.0.3.0/24 via 192.168.1.4 / 192.168.1.1 / 192.168.1.2
            a route to 0.0.0.0 via 192.168.1.1
            a route to 0.0.0.0  via 192.168.1.2

          pfsense server 4 on 192.168.1.4 will report
            it has a direct route to 10.0.3.0/24
            a route to node 192.168.1.1
            a route to node 192.168.1.2

          a route to node 192.168.1.3
            a route to 10.0.0.0/24 via 192.168.1.1 / 192.168.1.2 / 192.168.1.3
            a route to 10.0.2.0/24 via 192.168.1.3 / 192.168.1.1 / 192.168.1.2
            a route to 10.0.1.0/24 via 192.168.1.2 / 192.168.1.1 / 192.168.1.3
            a route to 0.0.0.0 via 192.168.1.1
            a route to 0.0.0.0 via 192.168.1.2
            a route to 0.0.0.0 via 192.168.1.3

          pfsense server 4 don't has internet and use pfserver 1,2 or 3 for its internet conections depending on witch one it can reache fast

          if ospf can read the kernal routes then it can use the routes that olsrd add's or removes from the kernal routing tabels

          olsrd self don't read from these tabels it has tabels with routing info and info of time it takes to make a conecting to a node on a route
          and witch nodes has witch routes to witch nodes etc etc

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            pcatiprodotnet
            last edited by

            …[olsr] will always use ipadresses…
            Is there any way to get OLSR to pass regular ethernet (MAC) traffic, such as using VPN over OLSR all done in pfSense, or other trick?
            Another possibility if the above won't work: Can pfSense in Bridge mode also do "spanning tree protocol"?  If so, is this possible solution worthy?
            Thank you for the helpful replies,
            -Pete

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              sullrich
              last edited by

              @pcatiprodotnet:

              Another possibility if the above won't work: Can pfSense in Bridge mode also do "spanning tree protocol"?

              Yep, on non-wireless bridges it does this by default.

              @pcatiprodotnet:

              If so, is this possible solution worthy?

              Not really sure.

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                pcatiprodotnet
                last edited by

                on non-wireless bridges it does this by default.
                How do you enable it on Wireless bridges?  And, is using it over wireless known to be problematic?

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                  sullrich
                  last edited by

                  Why would you want it on wireless?

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                    pcatiprodotnet
                    last edited by

                    Why would you want [spanning tree protocol] on wireless?
                    I though it might route wireless bridged ethernet traffic around down wireless nodes.  I guess not.

                    My Goal:  LANs in multiple buildings all linked together by ethernet Bridge over wireless Mesh (I assume olsr.org is the best).

                    Perhaps using OLSR plus "ethernet over IP" (such as VPN) to pass ethernet MAC traffic wirelessly between sites, all accomplished in pfSense, could make it appear to every PC in every building that they are on the same "local" ethernet LAN.  Is this posssible?  If so, how do I configure pfSense to do this?

                    Thanks, -pc

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                      aldo
                      last edited by

                      we are using a routed networ rather than a bridge network.
                      we have nodes with there own internet connection and a large
                      netowrk to link them all together.

                      if an internet connection fails on a node then we manually reconfigure
                      the routes onto our ospf backbone to use another route.

                      if you network is in anyway going to grow use routing and not bridging
                      it will be far more stable in our experiance.

                      each of our nodes support 30 -100 wireless clients

                      we presently have 8 nodes and a 20 box backhaul system.

                      I think there are issues with oslr and ospf. from my recent reviews it  seems that
                      oslr routes in the kernal are not recognised correctly by ospf. (but don't really know as
                      we dont really have any knowledge of oslr)

                      We where thinking of working with the load balancing pool features in pfsense.
                      but this might not work to well either because it does not seem to touch the
                      routing table. Is this true.

                      Maybe if we can consilidate some thoughts a little better we can do something here.
                      are there many more thoughts from the core team. would this be worth you spending
                      your time on. or are we a little to far over in the left field.

                      we have no choice but to spend money on it so i would love to give some to the
                      fine pfsense team

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                        pcatiprodotnet
                        last edited by

                        if you network is in anyway going to grow use routing and not bridging it will be far more stable in our experiance.
                        Thanks for the tip aldo!  I'm a Programmer, but new to networking/wireless, and I appreciate any expert advice.
                        I had desired Bridging so a single Captive Portal could control all clients, but that may not be a good idea either.
                        -Pete

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                          aldo
                          last edited by

                          you could still do this with routing. if you dont use nat on one side of the network
                          just route through it. captive portal could still work for you.

                          i know the drama of design is a far differnet one that the doing of it though
                          continually fraught with try to do stuff but not spent money.

                          i think i would prefer to be a prgrammer then maybe your only limitation is
                          how large your brain is.

                          good luck i willl take some time with oslr in the next week and see what
                          it can do. i think it might be more powerful than i think, even if it
                          is a very immature product

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                            jeroen234
                            last edited by

                            @pcatiprodotnet:

                            …[olsr] will always use ipadresses…
                            Is there any way to get OLSR to pass regular ethernet (MAC) traffic, such as using VPN over OLSR all done in pfSense, or other trick?
                            Another possibility if the above won't work: Can pfSense in Bridge mode also do "spanning tree protocol"?  If so, is this possible solution worthy?
                            Thank you for the helpful replies,
                            -Pete

                            olsrd will work on vpn just use the vpn interface as the interface for olsrd then on both sides of the vpn
                            if the interface can route then olsrd can work on it

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                              pcatiprodotnet
                              last edited by

                              Is an olsr node capable of accepting RIP route information on its non-olsr interface?
                              Thanks, -pc

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                                jeroen234
                                last edited by

                                yes but olsrd will not read the kernal routes
                                so info from rip can be rewirten by olrsd

                                just like rip is rewriting the kernal routes that  olsrd has put in

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                                  aldo
                                  last edited by

                                  just wondering about wheather anyone has come up with any great ideas here. it seems one of the core issues ould lie in how pfsense managed a dynamic routing table.
                                  do we think that the changes made to olsrd would allow this to happen or that olsrd only works well within a subnet.

                                  has anyone had any time to test what scott has done so far. i am an ospf bgp player so this olsrd is new to me. we would definately consider it if it looks like it might be a practical solution.

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                                    aldo
                                    last edited by

                                    i guess i could close this now i have managed to get quagga running a few months ago and it serves my purpose does anyone have any get extensions to this that would allow them to collect this bounty if not i will close the offer

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