Watchguard V60L pfsense Instalation issues



  • Hi everyone , i have a delicate issue  with my firewall witch i can not resolve .
    Let me start from the beginning :
    I bought this watchguard firebox V60L  on ebay , the owner have send me only the box itself (no cables , no cds , nothing additional , not even the power cord) .
    When i turned on the firewall i could see "Ready" led fixed and i tough that using the trusted ports (1) on the firewall i could get to the configuration of it .
    Crossover cable used , normal RJ45 cable and nothing , i could not get an ip from firewall on DHCP .
    So , i contacted watchguard if they could send me the vcontroller application so i could get over serial console some kind of reset , they answer me that they did not had any cd to sell or to send me , and the best way was to participate in their trade program , witch i trade this firewall for a new recent model in exchange and with discount .
    I did not even reply to them , because this here is not a company and i am not wiling to spend more money than i really had already over this issue .
    After a few searches for alternatives firmwares i found monowall witch i had no success installing the firmware , i found pfsense over this page : http://anthony.zerosandones.co.uk/content/firebox-v60l-and-m0n0wall-pfsense .
    I try everything to get this on , i opened the firewall and i saw it was only 64M memory , so i upgrade it to 128M to work with Pf-sense , i saw that CF memory card on it was only 128M , and most of new Pf-sense firmwares the minimum is 512M , i looked here at stores and the minimum i found was 8G , so i go to pf-sense , i downloaded the liveCD installer and i run it , 1st time i used the quick installation witch deleted my hard disk where i had all my stuff , i only notice it after  , but i recover it and all the data using Active partition recovery software , i saved all my data except the OS , but that was a minor problem .
    Then i disconnected all my hdds and leave only the CF card active on computer and i installed the latest image (no vga or keyboard) , had no success again .
    using pf-sense or monowall the "ready" led stays blinking and do not get ready .
    I try Putty to connect over console but i got no sucess .
    I made a bunch of cables for this  console (db9 -> RJ45 ) connection to test , Cisco cable , null modem , alcatel , using the net schematics of pinout and i just can not get into the firewall anyway .

    Anyone here can please send me the vcontroller application from watchguard , or explain me what did i did wrong , please ?
    some help is very appriciated , i am lost .
    If someone also knows witch cable console pinout for this model is used then can you send it to me ?

    Thank you for everything .



  • update :
    Finally i got the correct configuration for the cable to access the console .
    The cable is this one : RJ45 to DB9 Crossover

    Now i can get data from the console , but it is giving me and irq7 error , here it is the logfile :

    Bus Dev Func VendID DevID Class              Irq
    00  00  00  8086  7192  Host Bridge        g interrupt source
    00  05  00  8086  1209  Ethernet          9 interrupt source
    00  06  00  8086  1209  Ethernet          6 interrupt source
    00  07  00  8086  7110  ISA Bridge        g interrupt source
    00  07  01  8086  7111  IDE Controller    g interrupt source
    00  07  02  8086  7112  Serial Bus        11interrupt source
    00  07  03  8086  7113  PCI Bridge        g interrupt source
    00  08  00  13A3  0006  Co-Processor      10interrupt source
    00  09  00  1617  0101  Ethernet          11interrupt source
    General Software Pentium III Embedded BIOS ™ Version 4.3
    Copyright (C) 2000 General Software, Inc.
    (C) 2000 General Software, Inc.
    Pentium III-4.3-
    /boot/config: -D
    Consoles: internal video/keyboard  serial port
    BIOS drive C: is disk0
    BIOS 638kB/64512kB available memory

    FreeBSD/x86 bootstrap loader, Revision 1.1
    (root@snapshots-8_3-i386.builders.pfsense.org, Wed Sep 11 18:29:12 EDT 2013)
    Loading /boot/defaults/loader.conf
    /boot/kernel/kernel data=0x9162bc data=0x51d734+0x9e0c4 syms=[0x4+0x9aa90+0x4+0x                                            d51ab]
    |

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    ▒                                        ▒
    ▒                                        ▒
    ▒                                        ▒
    ▒          Welcome to pfSense!            ▒
    ▒                                        ▒                ______
    ▒                                        ▒                /     
    ▒  1. Boot pfSense [default]              ▒          /    f 
    ▒  2. Boot pfSense with ACPI enabled      ▒        /    \        /
    ▒  3. Boot pfSense using USB device      ▒        /  p  _
    /  Sense
    ▒  4. Boot pfSense in Safe Mode          ▒        \      /     
    ▒  5. Boot pfSense in single user mode    ▒        _____/       
    ▒  6. Boot pfSense with verbose logging  ▒              \        /
    ▒  7. Escape to loader prompt            ▒                ______/
    ▒  8. Reboot                              ▒
    ▒                                        ▒
    ▒                                        ▒
    ▒                                        ▒
    ▒  Select option, [Enter] for default    ▒
    ▒  or [Space] to pause timer  -1          ▒
    ▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒

    Copyright © 1992-2012 The FreeBSD Project.
    Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
            The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
    FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation.
    FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASE-p11 #0: Wed Sep 11 18:43:07 EDT 2013
        root@snapshots-8_3-i386.builders.pfsense.org:/usr/obj.pfSense/usr/pfSensesrc                                            /src/sys/pfSense_wrap.8.i386 i386
    Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
    CPU: Intel Pentium III (847.74-MHz 686-class CPU)
      Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x68a  Family = 6  Model = 8  Stepping = 10
      Features=0x387f9ff <fpu,vme,de,pse,tsc,msr,pae,mce,cx8,sep,mtrr,pge,mca,cmov,pa   ="" t,pse36,pn,mmx,fxsr,sse="">real memory  = 67108864 (64 MB)
    avail memory = 42561536 (40 MB)
    ipw_bss: You need to read the LICENSE file in /usr/share/doc/legal/intel_ipw/.
    ipw_bss: If you agree with the license, set legal.intel_ipw.license_ack=1 in /bo                                            ot/loader.conf.
    module_register_init: MOD_LOAD (ipw_bss_fw, 0xc07330f0, 0) error 1
    ipw_ibss: You need to read the LICENSE file in /usr/share/doc/legal/intel_ipw/.
    ipw_ibss: If you agree with the license, set legal.intel_ipw.license_ack=1 in /b                                            oot/loader.conf.
    module_register_init: MOD_LOAD (ipw_ibss_fw, 0xc0733190, 0) error 1
    ipw_monitor: You need to read the LICENSE file in /usr/share/doc/legal/intel_ipw                                            /.
    ipw_monitor: If you agree with the license, set legal.intel_ipw.license_ack=1 in                                              /boot/loader.conf.
    module_register_init: MOD_LOAD (ipw_monitor_fw, 0xc0733230, 0) error 1
    wlan: mac acl policy registered
    ACPI Error: A valid RSDP was not found (20101013/tbxfroot-309)
    ACPI: Table initialisation failed: AE_NOT_FOUND
    ACPI: Try disabling either ACPI or apic support.
    cryptosoft0: <software crypto="">on motherboard
    padlock0: No ACE support.
    pcib0: <intel 82443bx="" host="" to="" pci="" bridge="" (agp="" disabled)="">pcibus 0 on motherboard
    pci0: <pci bus="">on pcib0
    fxp0: <intel 10="" 100="" 82559er="" embedded="" ethernet="">port 0xfc00-0xfc3f mem 0xc0000000                                            -0xc0000fff,0xc0020000-0xc003ffff irq 9 at device 5.0 on pci0
    miibus0: <mii bus="">on fxp0
    inphy0: <i82555 10="" 100="" media="" interface="">PHY 1 on miibus0
    inphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto, auto-flow
    fxp0: [ITHREAD]
    fxp1: <intel 10="" 100="" 82559er="" embedded="" ethernet="">port 0xf800-0xf83f mem 0xc0040000                                            -0xc0040fff,0xc0060000-0xc007ffff irq 6 at device 6.0 on pci0
    miibus1: <mii bus="">on fxp1
    inphy1: <i82555 10="" 100="" media="" interface="">PHY 1 on miibus1
    inphy1:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto, auto-flow
    fxp1: [ITHREAD]
    isab0: <pci-isa bridge="">at device 7.0 on pci0
    isa0: <isa bus="">on isab0
    atapci0: <intel piix4="" udma33="" controller="">port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x37                                            6,0xf400-0xf40f at device 7.1 on pci0
    ata0: <ata channel="">at channel 0 on atapci0
    ata0: [ITHREAD]
    ata1: <ata channel="">at channel 1 on atapci0
    ata1: [ITHREAD]
    uhci0: <intel 82371ab="" eb="" (piix4)="" usb="" controller="">port 0xf000-0xf01f irq 11 at de                                            vice 7.2 on pci0
    uhci0: [ITHREAD]
    usbus0: <intel 82371ab="" eb="" (piix4)="" usb="" controller="">on uhci0
    piix0: <piix timecounter="">port 0x10a0-0x10af at device 7.3 on pci0
    Timecounter "PIIX" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 0
    pci0: <processor>at device 8.0 (no driver attached)
    pci0: <network, ethernet="">at device 9.0 (no driver attached)
    cpu0 on motherboard
    atrtc0: <at real="" time="" clock="">at port 0x70 irq 8 on isa0
    ppc0: <parallel port="">at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0
    ppc0: Generic chipset (EPP/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode
    ppc0: [ITHREAD]
    ppbus0: <parallel port="" bus="">on ppc0
    ppi0: <parallel i="" o="">on ppbus0
    uart0: <16550 or compatible> at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0
    uart0: [FILTER]
    uart0: console (9600,n,8,1)
    uart1: <16550 or compatible> at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0
    uart1: [FILTER]
    Timecounter "TSC" frequency 847737580 Hz quality 800
    Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec
    IPsec: Initialized Security Association Processing.
    interrupt storm detected on "irq7:"; throttling interrupt source
    usbus0: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0
    ad0: 7623MB <cf card="" ver7.02k="">at ata0-master UDMA33
    ugen0.1: <intel>at usbus0
    uhub0: <intel 1="" 9="" uhci="" root="" hub,="" class="" 0,="" rev="" 1.00="" 1.00,="" addr="">on usbus0
    uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
    interrupt storm detected on "irq7:"; throttling interrupt source
    interrupt storm detected on "irq7:"; throttling interrupt source
    interrupt storm detected on "irq7:"; throttling interrupt source
    interrupt storm detected on "irq7:"; throttling interrupt source
    ad0: FAILURE - READ_DMA timed out LBA=15613917
    interrupt storm detected on "irq7:"; throttling interrupt source
    interrupt storm detected on "irq7:"; throttling interrupt source</intel></intel></cf></parallel></parallel></parallel></at></network,></processor></piix></intel></intel></ata></ata></intel></isa></pci-isa></i82555></mii></intel></i82555></mii></intel></pci></intel></software></fpu,vme,de,pse,tsc,msr,pae,mce,cx8,sep,mtrr,pge,mca,cmov,pa >

    And stays like this forever .
    Any idea ?



  • Update : Finally i got PFsense Installed using physdiskwrite and 512M 386 image from 2.01 version of PFsense writing the image directly on the 8G CF card , i can not get PCI card to run properly due to that IRQ7 conflict witch is the IRQ that PCI slot is using . I can use PFsense GUI , and actually the firewall is working properly using the HTA ports , 1 for wan and other for Lan .
    Over the console using putty i still have the annoying issue "interrupt storm detected on "irq7:"; throttling interrupt source" .
    If anyone one could help me to solve this issue that was awesome .


  • Netgate Administrator

    Have you read the V80L thread here? http://forum.pfsense.org/index.php/topic,53277.0.html

    I imagine the two boxes are very similar. It's an interesting box. The PCI attached daughter board is clearly more than a network card. It has it's own ram for example. It seems likely that it's a 5 port managed switch on a card with one port exposed to the main board and other four available on the front. Do you have a copy of the bootup messages? You can find one in /var/log/dmesg.boot. Can you post the output of

    pcicconf -lv
    

    Does your daughter board look like the one linked in the V80L thread? We need to know what each of those ICs on there are and that might involve removing the heatsink. It may be possible to get pfSense to recongnice the card and configure it to use the extra ports but it's not going to be quick and easy.

    Steve



  • hi , thank you a lot for the feedback on help .
    Yes , my pci card is almost exactly like V80L , mine is revision 1 and 2x memories of 32M each .
    and the symptoms are just like the ones that V80L have in that thread .

    Note : i missed that thread on V80L before i post this topic .

    pciconf -l -v
    hostb0@pci0:0:0:0: class=0x060000 card=0x00000000 chip=0x71928086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00
        class      = bridge
        subclass  = HOST-PCI
    fxp0@pci0:0:5:0: class=0x020000 card=0x00000000 chip=0x12098086 rev=0x09 hdr=0x00
        class      = network
        subclass  = ethernet
    fxp1@pci0:0:6:0: class=0x020000 card=0x00000000 chip=0x12098086 rev=0x09 hdr=0x00
        class      = network
        subclass  = ethernet
    isab0@pci0:0:7:0: class=0x060100 card=0x00000000 chip=0x71108086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00
        class      = bridge
        subclass  = PCI-ISA
    atapci0@pci0:0:7:1: class=0x010180 card=0x00000000 chip=0x71118086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00
        class      = mass storage
        subclass  = ATA
    uhci0@pci0:0:7:2: class=0x0c0300 card=0x00000000 chip=0x71128086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00
        class      = serial bus
        subclass  = USB
    piix0@pci0:0:7:3: class=0x068000 card=0x00000000 chip=0x71138086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00
        class      = bridge
    none0@pci0:0:8:0: class=0x0b4000 card=0x00000000 chip=0x000613a3 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00
        class      = processor
    none1@pci0:0:9:0: class=0x020000 card=0x00000000 chip=0x01011617 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
        class      = network
        subclass  = ethernet

    $ cat /var/log/dmesg.boot
    Copyright © 1992-2010 The FreeBSD Project.
    Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
    The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
    FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation.
    FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE-p6 #0: Mon Dec 12 18:59:41 EST 2011
        root@FreeBSD_8.0_pfSense_2.0-snaps.pfsense.org:/usr/obj./usr/pfSensesrc/src/sys/pfSense_wrap.8.i386 i386
    Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
    CPU: Intel Pentium III (847.74-MHz 686-class CPU)
      Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x68a  Family = 6  Model = 8  Stepping = 10
      Features=0x387f9ff <fpu,vme,de,pse,tsc,msr,pae,mce,cx8,sep,mtrr,pge,mca,cmov,pat,pse36,pn,mmx,fxsr,sse>real memory  = 134217728 (128 MB)
    avail memory = 112218112 (107 MB)
    netisr_init: forcing maxthreads to 1 and bindthreads to 0 for device polling
    wlan: mac acl policy registered
    ipw_bss: You need to read the LICENSE file in /usr/share/doc/legal/intel_ipw/.
    ipw_bss: If you agree with the license, set legal.intel_ipw.license_ack=1 in /boot/loader.conf.
    module_register_init: MOD_LOAD (ipw_bss_fw, 0xc0710010, 0) error 1
    ipw_ibss: You need to read the LICENSE file in /usr/share/doc/legal/intel_ipw/.
    ipw_ibss: If you agree with the license, set legal.intel_ipw.license_ack=1 in /boot/loader.conf.
    module_register_init: MOD_LOAD (ipw_ibss_fw, 0xc07100b0, 0) error 1
    wpi: You need to read the LICENSE file in /usr/share/doc/legal/intel_wpi/.
    wpi: If you agree with the license, set legal.intel_wpi.license_ack=1 in /boot/loader.conf.
    module_register_init: MOD_LOAD (wpi_fw, 0xc0883050, 0) error 1
    ipw_monitor: You need to read the LICENSE file in /usr/share/doc/legal/intel_ipw/.
    ipw_monitor: If you agree with the license, set legal.intel_ipw.license_ack=1 in /boot/loader.conf.
    module_register_init: MOD_LOAD (ipw_monitor_fw, 0xc0710150, 0) error 1
    ACPI Error: A valid RSDP was not found (20100331/tbxfroot-309)
    ACPI: Table initialisation failed: AE_NOT_FOUND
    ACPI: Try disabling either ACPI or apic support.
    cryptosoft0: <software crypto="">on motherboard
    padlock0: No ACE support.
    pcib0: <intel 82443bx="" host="" to="" pci="" bridge="" (agp="" disabled)="">pcibus 0 on motherboard
    pci0: <pci bus="">on pcib0
    fxp0: <intel 10="" 100="" 82559er="" embedded="" ethernet="">port 0xfc00-0xfc3f mem 0xc0000000-0xc0000fff,0xc0020000-0xc003ffff irq 9 at device 5.0 on pci0
    fxp0: Enabling Rx lock-up workaround
    miibus0: <mii bus="">on fxp0
    inphy0: <i82555 10="" 100="" media="" interface="">PHY 1 on miibus0
    inphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
    fxp0: [ITHREAD]
    fxp1: <intel 10="" 100="" 82559er="" embedded="" ethernet="">port 0xf800-0xf83f mem 0xc0040000-0xc0040fff,0xc0060000-0xc007ffff irq 6 at device 6.0 on pci0
    fxp1: Enabling Rx lock-up workaround
    miibus1: <mii bus="">on fxp1
    inphy1: <i82555 10="" 100="" media="" interface="">PHY 1 on miibus1
    inphy1:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
    fxp1: [ITHREAD]
    isab0: <pci-isa bridge="">at device 7.0 on pci0
    isa0: <isa bus="">on isab0
    atapci0: <intel piix4="" udma33="" controller="">port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xf400-0xf40f at device 7.1 on pci0
    ata0: <ata 0="" channel="">on atapci0
    ata0: [ITHREAD]
    ata1: <ata 1="" channel="">on atapci0
    ata1: [ITHREAD]
    uhci0: <intel 82371ab="" eb="" (piix4)="" usb="" controller="">port 0xf000-0xf01f irq 11 at device 7.2 on pci0
    uhci0: [ITHREAD]
    usbus0: <intel 82371ab="" eb="" (piix4)="" usb="" controller="">on uhci0
    piix0: <piix timecounter="">port 0x10a0-0x10af at device 7.3 on pci0
    Timecounter "PIIX" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 0
    pci0: <processor>at device 8.0 (no driver attached)
    pci0: <network, ethernet="">at device 9.0 (no driver attached)
    cpu0 on motherboard
    atrtc0: <at real="" time="" clock="">at port 0x70 irq 8 on isa0
    ppc0: <parallel port="">at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0
    ppc0: Generic chipset (EPP/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode
    ppc0: [ITHREAD]
    ppbus0: <parallel port="" bus="">on ppc0
    ppi0: <parallel i="" o="">on ppbus0
    uart0: <16550 or compatible> at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0
    uart0: [FILTER]
    uart0: console (9600,n,8,1)
    uart1: <16550 or compatible> at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0
    uart1: [FILTER]
    Timecounter "TSC" frequency 847737496 Hz quality 800
    Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec
    IPsec: Initialized Security Association Processing.
    interrupt storm detected on "irq7:"; throttling interrupt source
    usbus0: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0
    ad0: 7623MB <cf card="" ver7.02k="">at ata0-master PIO4
    ugen0.1: <intel>at usbus0
    uhub0: <intel 1="" 9="" uhci="" root="" hub,="" class="" 0,="" rev="" 1.00="" 1.00,="" addr="">on usbus0
    Root mount waiting for: usbus0
    uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
    Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ufs/pfsense0
    interrupt storm detected on "irq7:"; throttling interrupt source
    interrupt storm detected on "irq7:"; throttling interrupt source
    interrupt storm detected on "irq7:"; throttling interrupt source
    interrupt storm detected on "irq7:"; throttling interrupt source
    interrupt storm detected on "irq7:"; throttling interrupt source
    interrupt storm detected on "irq7:"; throttling interrupt source</intel></intel></cf></parallel></parallel></parallel></at></network,></processor></piix></intel></intel></ata></ata></intel></isa></pci-isa></i82555></mii></intel></i82555></mii></intel></pci></intel></software></fpu,vme,de,pse,tsc,msr,pae,mce,cx8,sep,mtrr,pge,mca,cmov,pat,pse36,pn,mmx,fxsr,sse>

    Btw , i was finishing the reading on V80 and it stop when brian was going to look what chip description was behind the heat-sinker in that pci card , i can send you the original watchguard firmware from mine in case you want to give a look at it . i could only get the raw image copy of it , but if you still want it to check it out then tell me and i upload the file . it is 128M the raw image , if that avoids the removing of the heat sink .

    PCI card Top image

    PCI card Bottom Image


  • Netgate Administrator

    In previous Watchguard firmwares I've looked at the code for controlling proprietary hardware is in the form of a compiled module which doesn't help much. There have been some clues in various config files though. It might be completely different though because the V60 and V80 were basically made by Rapidstream before Watchguard absorbed them.

    I notice your PCI device ID is different, presumably because of the revision difference?

    What are the part numbers of the chips you can see? The two large ICs next to the SODIMMs and the heatsink.

    Steve

    Edit: The fact that the board is labelled 'SBC' has so much RAM for itself and has JTAG programming connectors leads me to believe it might well be an entirely separate computer. It could be a high powerd switch IC I guess. I think it's very unlikely I'll be able to do anything useful with it.  :(



  • Thanks for the reply .
    the chips ids are :
    1 x AM29LV80088-120EC "AMD Chip" http://www.usbid.com/parts/AM29LV80088120EC
    1 x 58L256L36P http://www.alldatasheet.com/datasheet-pdf/pdf/130167/MICRON/MT58L256L36P.html
    4 x 825559ER "Intel PCI Controller" http://www.embeddedtechnology.com/doc/dual-fast-ethernet-interface-for-3u-compactpc-0001

    I will see if in next weekend i can take off the heat sink somehow without damaging the card .
    I have look over the net for some techniques "how to do it" , and i may try .



  • here it is the reference the the chip behind the heat sink :
    Rapidcore RC10000 C


  • Netgate Administrator

    Nice photo.  :)
    Hmm some custom IC, yikes!
    In order to get the required throughput between the various local interfaces Rapidstream have used a custom ASIC in addition to the X86 board. The X86 cpu and PCI bus just wasn't up to the job in 2000. The code and specs for that will not be available. However it seems that the ASIC appears as a network device, it seems likely they would have simulated some well supported NIC (or does it?) in which case it may be possible to talk to it.  :-\ On the other hand when those boxes were running the original OS the two fxp ports were only ever used to sync together several boxes in a high availability cluster. Actual network data never flowed through them. It may be that the X86 CPU only ever sent control messages to the ASIC over the PCI connection.
    Whilst this would be a fascinating project it's way beyond my normal level of tinkering and the result would still be a fairly slow firewall. It would be much easier to replace the daughter board with a standard quad NIC.

    Steve

    This is talking about a later, faster model but the idea is the same:
    @http://www.checkpoint.com/press/partners/2002/rapidstream012202.html:

    RapidCore® ASIC and Check Point Secure XL™
    RapidStream is the first to deliver breakthrough VPN-1 performance on a single appliance by leveraging the Check Point SecureXL™ performance framework. The security decisions made by Check Point software running on the main CPU are executed by one or more RapidCore® chips, RapidStream's custom programmable security ASIC. RapidStream's architecture allows the company to linearly scale appliance performance to any desired level by adding additional RapidCore ASICs. RapidCore ASICs perform parallel processing of VPN-1 and FireWall-1 functions, Network Address translation (NAT), Denial of Service (DoS) attack protection, and Quality of Service (QoS) functions by using the embedded four RISC CPUS and embedded memory cache. "With RapidStream's architecture, the data path traffic 'cuts through' the RapidCore processor(s) and not the appliance's central CPU, eliminating a typical performance bottleneck: the system bus," said Vince Liu, RapidStream president and CEO. "The execution of Check Point Next Generation software on the RapidStream platform matches network wire speeds so users are not impeded by security measures, nor limited by the number of sessions that can be supported. Productivity is enhanced and bandwidth purchased by the organization is not wasted, improving the company's return on investment (ROI)."



  • Thanks for the reply .
    I understand the point of view , now i am between 2 paths :
    1 st : i use the motherboard nics only and use PFSense witch have a very good GUI and can be updated freely and at lan i put a switch to connect my lan .

    2nd : i can use an outdated firmware from watchguard where i can use the PCI Ethernet Switch Card , but at same time i will be no secure and the configuration will be over the console (witch is a bit complicated at some points .)

    I surely prefer the 1st one  ;)
    By the way , Stephen , do you have vcontroller application from watchguard so i can give a look the the original firmware from this firewall without using the console and putty manually ?
    I do not have the original CD from this firewall because i buy it on ebay and the last owner did not had it .

    Thanks for everything .



  • I removed the ethernet PCI card from the firewall and i notice that the irq 7 issue still remains as error on putty and on pfsense .
    Is there anyway to bypass this issue ?


  • Netgate Administrator

    Try running 'vmstat -i' at the console. What is causing the storm?

    Try 'top -SH'. Anything showing high CPU usage?

    Steve



  • here are the results steven :
    vmstat -i
    interrupt                          total      rate
    irq0: clk                        2090955        99
    irq4: uart0                      1380322        66
    irq6: fxp1                        983072        47
    irq7: ppc0                      1965927        94
    irq8: rtc                        2676708        127
    irq9: fxp0                      1666721        79
    irq14: ata0                        69918          3
    Total                          10833623        518
    [2.1-RELEASE][root@pfSense.localdomain]/root(2)

    about the cpu usage everything is normal , it is 93% idle and have only

    11 root    -60    -    0K  112K istorm  24:34  4.98% intr{irq7: ppc0}

    cat /var/log/dmesg.boot
    Copyright © 1992-2012 The FreeBSD Project.
    Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
            The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
    FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation.
    FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASE-p11 #0: Wed Sep 11 19:13:36 EDT 2013
        root@snapshots-8_3-i386.builders.pfsense.org:/usr/obj.pfSense/usr/pfSensesrc/src/sys/pfSense_wrap.8.i386interrupt storm detected on "irq7:"; throttling interrupt source
    i386
    Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
    CPU: Intel Pentium III (847.74-MHz 686-class CPU)
      Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x68a  Family = 6  Model = 8  Stepping = 10
      Features=0x387f9ff <fpu,vme,de,pse,tsc,msr,pae,mce,cx8,sep,mtrr,pge,mca,cmov,pat,pse36,pn,mmx,fxsr,sse>real memory  = 134217728 (128 MB)
    avail memory = 108032000 (103 MB)
    wlan: mac acl policy registered
    cryptosoft0: <software crypto="">on motherboard
    padlock0: No ACE support.
    pcib0: <intel 82443bx="" host="" to="" pci="" bridge="" (agp="" disabled)="">pcibus 0 on motherboard
    pci0: <pci bus="">on pcib0
    fxp0: <intel 10="" 100="" 82559er="" embedded="" ethernet="">port 0xfc00-0xfc3f mem 0xc0000000-0xc0000fff,0xc0020000-0xc003ffff irq 9 at device 5.0 on pci0
    miibus0: <mii bus="">on fxp0
    inphy0: <i82555 10="" 100="" media="" interface="">PHY 1 on miibus0
    inphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto, auto-flow
    fxp0: [ITHREAD]interrupt storm detected on "irq7:"; throttling interrupt source

    fxp1: <intel 10="" 100="" 82559er="" embedded="" ethernet="">port 0xf800-0xf83f mem 0xc0040000-0xc0040fff,0xc0060000-0xc007ffff irq 6 at device 6.0 on pci0
    miibus1: <mii bus="">on fxp1
    inphy1: <i82555 10="" 100="" media="" interface="">PHY 1 on miibus1
    inphy1:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto, auto-flow
    fxp1: [ITHREAD]
    isab0: <pci-isa bridge="">at device 7.0 on pci0
    isa0: <isa bus="">on isab0
    atapci0: <intel piix4="" udma33="" controller="">port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xf400-0xf40f at device 7.1 on pci0
    ata0: <ata channel="">at channel 0 on atapci0
    ata0: [ITHREAD]
    ata1: <ata channel="">at channel 1 on atapci0
    ata1: [ITHREAD]
    uhci0: <intel 82371ab="" eb="" (piix4)="" usb="" controller="">port 0xf000-0xf01f irq 11 at device 7.2 on pci0
    uhci0: [ITHREAD]
    usbus0: <intel 82371ab="" eb="" (piix4)="" usb="" controller="">on uhci0
    piix0: <piix timecounter="">port 0x10a0-0x10af at device 7.3 on pci0
    Timecounter "Pinterrupt storm detected on "irq7:"; throttling interrupt source
    IIX" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 0
    pci0: <processor>at device 8.0 (no driver attached)
    cpu0 on motherboard
    atrtc0: <at real="" time="" clock="">at port 0x70 irq 8 on isa0
    ppc0: <parallel port="">at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0
    ppc0: Generic chipset (EPP/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode
    ppc0: [ITHREAD]
    ppbus0: <parallel port="" bus="">on ppc0
    ppi0: <parallel i="" o="">on ppbus0
    uart0: <16550 or compatible> at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0
    uart0: [FILTER]
    uart0: console (9600,n,8,1)
    uart1: <16550 or compatible> at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0
    uart1: [FILTER]
    Timecounter "TSC" frequency 847739792 Hz quality 800
    Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec
    IPsec: Initialized Security Association Processing.
    interrupt storm detected on "irq7:"; throttling interrupt source
    usbus0: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0
    ad0: 7623MB <cf card="" ver7.02k="">at ata0-master PIO4
    ugen0.1: <intel>at usbus0
    uinterrupt storm detected on "irq7:"; throttling interrupt source
    hub0: <intel 1="" 9="" uhci="" root="" hub,="" class="" 0,="" rev="" 1.00="" 1.00,="" addr="">on usbus0
    Root mount waiting for: usbus0
    uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
    Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ufs/pfsense1</intel></intel></cf></parallel></parallel></parallel></at></processor></piix></intel></intel></ata></ata></intel></isa></pci-isa></i82555></mii></intel></i82555></mii></intel></pci></intel></software></fpu,vme,de,pse,tsc,msr,pae,mce,cx8,sep,mtrr,pge,mca,cmov,pat,pse36,pn,mmx,fxsr,sse>

    i am also trying to find how to activate the leds of the firewall , "ready,admin & alarm" or at least the "ready" led .
    but most important than that is solve this issue with the irq .
    I was wondering if the cause may be related to the 128M sdram memory installed on the firewall and i be using the 512M pfsense image ?
    Can that affect this issue ?

    thank you for all your help on this , and as matter of fact this topic may be usefull for others users in future if they acquire a beast like this one , lol ;) .

    Note : before posting here i notice on the start on the boot that disabling acpi may fix this issue and i disable it on the boot , but issue still remains .


  • Netgate Administrator

    So it appears to be having a problem with the parallel  port (ppc0). Do you need the parallel port? Can it be disabled? About the only thing I can think it might be used for is the leds.

    You can read about my own investigation into the front panel leds on other Watchguard boxes here:
    http://forum.pfsense.org/index.php/topic,32013.0.html

    I also just noticed that there is another device shown in your pci listing. Vendor:13a3 Device:0006. This appears to be a Hi-fn crypto chip. It is supported by the lofn(4) driver in other BSDs but hasn't been ported to FreeBSD unfortunately.

    Steve



  • Hi Steve , i can not understand why it says parallel port ?!!
    Why it says parallel port if the hardware have none ?
    can that port be related to the db9 ups port at back of the hardware ?

    I will check your topic about the leds later , i have to go to work now .


  • Netgate Administrator

    The UPS connector is almost certainly a serial port.
    Just because there isn't a parallel port connector on the box does not mean it doesn't have one. It's standard PC hardware it probably uses a SuperIO chip to provide various services and it may provide a parallel port even if it's not connected to anything. Purely speculation but I could imagine an incorrectly terminated parallel interface generating way too many interrupts. On the later fireboxes the parallel port is used for the LCD.
    Try looking in the BIOS, if you can, see if it can be disabled.

    Steve



  • how do i go to the bios settings on this firewall ?
    i only have the console as an interface to communicate with the hardware !!!!


  • Netgate Administrator

    Well I wasn't sure if you could. Many appliance style boxes use console-redirect to access the BIOS via the serial port. Often you have to press TAB to enter the setup. Otherwise we could try switching the serial port mode using a tunable.

    Edit: Try adding the line:

    hint.ppc.0.flags="0x24" 
    

    to the file /boot/loader.conf.local. You will have to create that file.
    That line should disable the parallel port using an IRQ and force it to use EPP mode.

    Steve



  • Bingo , worked just fine , thanks
    no more irq issues .
    Tab does not work to get access to bios , you told about tuneable settings that i may can get access to it , how do i do it ?

    Thanks for everything


  • Netgate Administrator

    Ah sorry I wrote serial and meant parallel. That device hint is the sort of thing I was thinking of. There's probably no easy way of accessing the BIOS if console redirect isn't enabled. We had to do it on the firebox x-e box because you need BIOS access to boot pfSense on that. It was high risk initially though.

    Steve



  • Hi,

    @pedropt: You can access the BIOS by hitting CTRL + C (I use Putty) in the console when you see the memory test

    Because it looks like there is no way to bring this 4 port NIC to work i wanted to replace it but non of the NICs i tried
    is recognized. did somebody tried this before and had success with it?

    Thanks in advance for any answer or idea



  • thanks for the tip Canus Lupus , i did not knew that one .
    my issue now is working in the bios from putty .
    i have try many commands to navigate on the bios , but i had no success doing it , i believe that half of my keyboard keys on bios just give it an exit code and then run the boot .
    About getting the other 4 nics working i did not yet managed to get them working .
    I can only get those nics working using the original watchguard firmware .
    Other thing before i leave , i posted a cable connection schematic on this thread for this firewall , i later notice that using a Cisco console cable it will work perfectly too .



  • Hi pedropt,

    yes this exactly what i am using. One of my CISCO cables :-)

    yes the original 4 port NIC which is inside i get also only working with the original SW and i gave up to get it
    to work with another SW. I try to use then some other NICs inside but i run always in some problems. It looks like
    best is working NICs with an Intel chip set (like the 2 on board ports). I only run in to an IRQ problem with an 2 port
    Intel based NIC which i actually wanted to use.

    About the navigation in the BIOS. Yes when you press a wrong button kicks you out of the BIOS. Unfortunately i
    am right now not at home but later on when i will be back i will have a look on my notices and will post here an
    description how to navigate in this BIOS :-)


  • Netgate Administrator

    In the x-peak box the console redirect in the bios is pretty buggy. I was able get around that by connecting a keyboard to use for input while using the serial port to see the output. I don't see a keyboard header on the board though.

    Steve



  • i can only get the HTA ports on the motherboard working , right now i am using both for wan and lan .
    i am curious to know if there is a way to know how watchguard put those 4 nics working in V60L .
    tomorrow i will put my original card from watchguard on a card reader , and i will look the files using my linux .
    maybe i can copy the uncompressed files to a rar file to someone here with experience look into them .
    I think i can also convert the files in ntfs file system for those that are using Windows OS ?
    Shall i give the trouble doing that ?
    it will give us some kind of advantage to understand how firmware puts the 4 nics working ?
    let me know .
    Best of all .


  • Netgate Administrator

    The extra 4 NICs are more like a layer 3 switch than a quad NIC card. As such it will be veery difficult to control them from pfSense. It might theoretically be possible if you were able to determine how Watchguard's OS talks to the card but it would be hard.
    The card appears as a networking device in pciconf and that initially makes you think it's a network card of some sort that might be recognisable by a standard FreeBSD driver given the correct PCI IDs however there isn't a NIC chip on the card that we might reasonably talk to. If we were able to talk to the card how is the Rapidstream chip controlled? If we're very lucky it might be via telnet or some simple protocol but it might just as likely be directly via the PCI slot using completely proprietary coding.
    Looking in the Watchguard firmware might reveal some clues but it's likely all the stuff to talk to the card will be binary blobs.

    Steve


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