Xbox Live issue



  • I have a pfsense box, with a wireless AP, which has a linksys WRT54G, with DD-wrt loaded, as a wireless bridge.

    connected to the wireless bridge, is my new Xbox360.

    I have the 360 manually set for an IP.

    I have all the ports forwarded, and static ports switched on.

    I do the live test once, it passes, do it again; it fails, do it again, pass, once more pass, again, another fail. In other words; intermittent, every trouble shooter's favorite word…

    One last important note; I have a dual WAN set up, load balancing the two WAN connections.

    I know I needed to put HTTPS, ICQ, and AIM all on one working connection, rather then load balance them; must I do the same for the xbox?



  • I put in rules to route the 3 live ports through one WAN only….same issue, every other time, the test fails at ICMP.

    Does anyone know what would cause this?



  • I removed the "router these connections through one WAN" rules, and added a rule on each WAN, to allow ICMP from any source, any type, to the xbox's IP, still no luck.

    Do I need the ICMP and the "router through one WAN" rules, for this too work?



  • Same results.

    One last thing I could think of; if the wireless bridge wasn't connecting properly all the time, that would affect this test, wouldn't it? Or no, it wouldn't? The xbox's DNS, is the default gateway, and it never fails at that.



  • I disabled all the rules, and NAts I put in, and the problem remains the same. Fails mostly, but every now and then it will connect.

    Anyone know anything more?



  • A wired connection might be the way to go for stable connectivity and gaming.



  • @onhel:

    A wired connection might be the way to go for stable connectivity and gaming.

    I realize this, but a wired connection just isn't an option with my house's set up.

    : (



  • The two other things I can try, are setting my WAN ports to be pingable. I could also try UPnP.

    Does anyone else have any other ideas?



  • @Majin:

    Same results.

    One last thing I could think of; if the wireless bridge wasn't connecting properly all the time, that would affect this test, wouldn't it? Or no, it wouldn't? The xbox's DNS, is the default gateway, and it never fails at that.

    Your making points that it could be the wireless but then again maybe not.

    Wire up the Xbox and see if the problem stops.  If it does, then obviously its the wireless; long range, interference.  You seem to be familiar with DD-WRT, a wireless repeater might be necessary midway between your access point and your xbox.  You can find on eBay a Dell Truemobile 2300 for cheap and install DD-WRT on that and make it your repeater.  The 2300 has the same guts as a WRT54g v.1 but has a fixed antenna so its not as sought after and therefore cheaper.



  • Hey Folks,
    First let me say that I'm more techy than gamer but I did recently get an XBOX 360 largely based on the idea of playing a few select games against a friend. We are both on Verizon FiOS in the same town, although we are different segments. (not sure any of that matters)

    Both of us can play other (random) people online. We cannot connect to each other.

    On his end, he has managed to hook up two routers in serial … Verizon's POS Actiontec --> Apple Airport --> xbox. While I'm fairly sure that is the problem (and something I plan to fix today) I would like some help troubleshooting my connection.

    When I run the XBOX Live Test on the console I'm told my NAT is "Strict"... some quick searches seem to suggest that strict = bad.

    To make matters even more complex, I have a dual WAN setup. The XBOX should be using OPT1 (FiOS R) as its WAN connection, and I'm fairly sure that is the case.

    I assigned a static IP to the XBOX 10.1.1.195 and forwarded ports 88 UDP and 3074 TCP/UDP. However, when I set those rules to write to the log, I don't see anything appear in the log.

    I did enable static ports on the outbound NAT (and that fixed another issue, woohoo!) but it also did not appear to help the XBOX Live situation

    I'd really appericate any thoughts on troubleshooting this connection and getting my XBOX to move past the "strict" admonishment. Thanks everyone!
    -N

    Network overview

    Rules

    NAT

    Outbound NAT



  • The thing i just see is: Move the rule for the Xbox above the rule for the rest of the subnet.
    –> Rules are Processed from top to bottom and if one catches the rest is no longer considered.



  • @GruensFroeschli:

    The thing i just see is: Move the rule for the Xbox above the rule for the rest of the subnet.
    –> Rules are Processed from top to bottom and if one catches the rest is no longer considered.

    GruensFroeschli  you beat me to it! I was just coming back to post that it was working. I re-read the VPN thread where you or Scott suggested the exact same solution… I should have caught it the first time.

    interestingly, once I did that, I cleared the states witch literally crashed every Mac on my network (7 of em)...talking hard lock ups... took me a while to sort everything out, involved a lot of reboots (many forced) but things appear to be working smoothly again.

    Thanks again for such a great platform and the support!



  • Hehe.
    Yeah macs kind of dont like it if you kill their active connections.
    Did you ever plug out an Access Point over which a mac is downloading at this moment? ;)


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