Wifi and LAN on same subnet (SOLVED)

[Guest]

I am of the mind that things could be done easier in pfSense for the creation of bridges and wireless access points. I have considered requesting forum help for a wireless setup wizard -using something like what pfSense includes now at initial setup in WebConfigurator. I know everybody hates wizards but pfsense setup wizard is easy enough to click thru. I would like to see enhanced functionality with it. Is this something that seems logical to  anyone else? I hate doing the cable swap for bridge creation but it works..

A suggestion for help is disable firewall from Advanced Settings on the Menu. It will prevent lockout until you figure it out what is what. And  i know i hate  re-imaging my  CF card -so i do the restore last backup from console - to save time on lockouts when i was  learning. pfsense  automatically saves backups at each settings change it seems. Very convenient.

[Rickinfl]

Yes I'll have to do some debugging. Just keep cutting myself out.

Do you get DHCP on the WIFI port?  On the LAN port? WiFi yes. Not sure about LAN since I static those.

Can you ping the OPT2 address from the WIFI port?  From the LAN port? I can't ping anything but the wifi device I'm testing with

Can you ping the next hop gateway from the WIFI port?  From the LAN port? No same as above.

Can the Hosts on LAN ping the hosts on WIFI?  Vice versa? No. It's like the bridge blocks everything and isolates the wifi.

What DNS is being handed out to the DHCP clients?  Is that the DNS server actually in use by the clients? Can you resolve names using that address? Even static with DNS still doesn't work.

I'm going to have to do more research on this and try and break it down piece by piece and see what's going on. I've been driving myself crazy trying to figure this out. I know on paper its right and I drew it out many times then applied it.

Just strange.

Thanks for all your time and help.

Rick

[Derelict]

What firewall rules are on LAN and WIFI?

Does anyone know for sure that the xl driver still works?

Do you get DHCP on the WIFI port?  On the LAN port? WiFi yes. Not sure about LAN since I static those.

Can you try?  If you can get DHCP (and have ARP, etc) then it's not a layer2 problem and we really need to look at rules.

[Rickinfl]

Wow… Someone really needs to document how to do this!  Need Documentation on Normal setup of WiFi and then WiFi on the Same Subnet.

I've been researching this for almost 2 weeks now and I'm really tied of trying to get this to work.

I have read every post I could find on this. I've watched every Youtube Video and Even the one on Pfsense Site...  The problem is NOT 2 of any of the documentation is the same. Seems everyone does it different, but none of it works.

Really wish someone could post how to do this that's done it already.  :(

[Derelict]

It's just not that difficult.  Bridging works fine.

The instructions you have already posted cover everything you need to do.

If it doesn't work you need to be able to troubleshoot it to find out what was done incorrectly or where the problem otherwise lies.

[Rickinfl]

Well I got as far as being able to ping anything on the network from wireless or static. The WiFi just can't get out.  WiFi gets an IP address from DCHP.

[Derelict]

What are the firewall rules on wifi?  You need rules on all bridge members and the bridge itself.

[Rickinfl]

LAN Net > Any
WiFi Net > Any
Bridge Net > Any

[Rickinfl]

Here is all the steps I exactly took:

Fresh Build Pfsense. Got it configured and connected my computer to it and have internet access and access to my LAN.

1. Shut down install WiFi card (Card is on the recommended list of cards that work with Pfsense)
2. Interfaces > Added WiFi card (Opt1) renamed it to WiFi. > Setup WiFi settings.
3. Interfaces > Assign > Bridges > Created a Bridge > Renamed it to Bridge > Selected LAN and WiFi
4. Interfaces > Added new Interface > Opt2 > Renamed to Bridge > Network Port = Bridge
5. DHCP Server > Turned on DHCP for Bridge > Enabled > Set Range. (No DHCP on LAN or WiFi)
6. Firewall > Rules > Added New Rule > Source = Bridge Net > Rest set to Any.
7. System > Advanced > System Tuneables > net.link.bridge.pfil_member > Changed from 1 to 0
8. Interfaces > LAN > IPv4 Configuration Type = None  > IPv6 Configuration Type = None
9. Interfaces > WiFi > IPv4 Configuration Type = None  > IPv6 Configuration Type = None

My Configuration:

Old:

WAN > DHCP
LAN > 10.10.0.1

New:

WAN > DHCP
LAN >
WiFi >
Bridge > 10.10.0.2 > DHCP

I can connect my Phone and Laptop to WiFi. I can ping both from either one. No Internet Access.

Now you know what steps I took to get here. I know them well I've rebuilt it about 20+ Times from scratch trying to get this to work.

Thanks,
Rick

[Derelict]

@Rickinfl:

LAN Net > Any
WiFi Net > Any
Bridge Net > Any

What interfaces are those on?  There should be no more LAN net or WIFI Net - only Bridge Net.

[Rickinfl]

Here are the Firewall Rules

[Derelict]

First, change your bridge rules to any.  You have them set for TCP only.  DNS and many other things won't work like that.

Second, make rules on LAN and WIFI that look EXACTLY like the rules on bridge.  (Not with source LAN net or WIFI net, but for BRIDGE net - yes, on LAN and WIFI, source BRIDGE net)

[Rickinfl]

Still not working.

[Derelict]

All your rules are still TCP only, bro.

Change them all to this:


[Rickinfl]

Did that still not working.

[Derelict]

What's not working?

Do you get DHCP on the WIFI port?  On the LAN port?
Can you ping the BRIDGE address from the WIFI port?  From the LAN port?
Can you ping the next hop gateway from the WIFI port?  From the LAN port?
Can the Hosts on LAN ping the hosts on WIFI?  Vice versa?
What DNS is being handed out to the DHCP clients?  Is that the DNS server actually in use by the clients? Can you resolve names using that address?
Etc.

[Rickinfl]

Wait… From my phone I'm connected to Pfsense. I opened Chrome browser and can't get to any website, BUT I just accidentally went to my cloud and it loaded. At this point and some testing... I can access any https site, just not http sites.

[Derelict]

Let me guess.  You're also trying to run squid or snort or both.

[Rickinfl]

No actually it's a fresh install and no packages installed.

Can't seem to figure out what it is. So Close!  smh

[Derelict]

That doesn't make any sense. pf or otherwise.  Firewall logs logging anything?