Unbound seems to be restarting frequently
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Nope - I have those things enabled. Both of them.
Hmm… only one of these things is a setting (in the General tab) that can be enabled. The other is a dynamic artifact of the environment and DHCP mapping.
But I don't have IP conflicts and nor am I connected to one machine with both wire and wireless.
I also do not have this.
And the general settings matter and so does the advanced setting in unbound.
Just for clarity, can you explain what you are referring to in the settings? In particular, is there anything other than "Enable DNSSEC Support" and "Register DHCP leases in the DNS Resolver" (mentioned above) that you are referring to?
Thanks
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I can tell you my settings…
Enabled:
DNSSEC
DHCP Registration
Static DHCP
In advanced Settings besides what came enabled, I also Enabled:
Hide Identity
Hide Version
Prefetch Support
Prefetch DNS Key Support
Harden DNSSEC data
Unwanted Reply Threshold 10 millionI have no DNS IPs in the general settings of pfsense. None.
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But even though it restarts, it doesn't lose any "resolving" capability, right?
Depends. Often it takes about 30 seconds after a restart before it starts resolving, long enough to be annoying since it happens all the time on some routers.
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But even though it restarts, it doesn't lose any "resolving" capability, right?
Depends. Often it takes about 30 seconds after a restart before it starts resolving, long enough to be annoying since it happens all the time on some routers.
Interestingly, I have two exact copies of pfSense now, but different hardware. unbound bugs out on one of them (config is 100% equal, I differed the conf)
Works: atom, 2gb, 1 intel pro nics
Fails: i5 4 cores, 8gb, intel pro nicsIt's not the nice, because they're physically the same, I switch between tests.
Adding more memory shouldn't be a problem either.
So is it the fact that it's 4-cores? I guess more things can go wrong if there's issue with synchronization code, but that's just speculation.
At any rate, an interesting result. Note that the only problem on the 4-core is unbound, everything else works great in pfSense.
wtf
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Another one here:
I got 2.2.2 running on different hardware (Dell Server, "normal" PC, etc.). All with the same issue that unbound keeps restarting. Single WAN and multi WAN configs. On all of them there are issues with unbound restartingI'm using unbound for three main reasons:
1. DNSsec
2. Prefetch
3. Recursive queriesThe bad thing is that the constant restarts (probably 10-20 per day) basically make the cache and the Prefetch and also the cache useless and it is a big hit on overall DNS performance.
I was reading the whole thread and also the linked ones and I'll try a few things now but I really want to me to add myself to the list of users so the devs are aware: There is a problem. :'(Btw, on a big test network I got the unbound service running on a Windows 7 box. I'm using the same config as in pfSense. Guess what… It's running completely stable. No restarts or whatsoever.
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Btw, on a big test network I got the unbound service running on a Windows 7 box. I'm using the same config as in pfSense. Guess what… It's running completely stable. No restarts or whatsoever.
This Windows box is also the DHCP server ?
Without DHCP serving, unbound won't restart on pfSEnse. -
Btw, on a big test network I got the unbound service running on a Windows 7 box. I'm using the same config as in pfSense. Guess what… It's running completely stable. No restarts or whatsoever.
This Windows box is also the DHCP server ?
Without DHCP serving, unbound won't restart on pfSEnse.No, it's no DHCP server and even if it was I doubt that would make a difference. There SHOULD be no reason for a DHCP server to be able to restart a DNS service (unless there is something in the code that forces/allows it which I expect is the issue with pfSense).
So even if I added a DHCP server to the Windows 7 machine I'm nearly certain it wouldn't make a difference. -
(unless there is something in the code that forces/allows it which I expect is the issue with pfSense).
And there is.
Read my posts above, or look at the (PHP) code: when the system hosts file changed (because of a new entry, put in by the DHCP server) then unbound is reloaded …. (it shows in the logs : stopped -> started).Running unbound on pfSEnse without DHCP server (so the system hosts file is nearly static), unbound will NOT get reloaded ....
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Differences between your and my configuration are the DHCP parameters and the prefetch.
I will set prefetch aside as I doubt it is relevant to the issue at hand.
Static DHCP registration would only have affect at initial startup or static table edit, so I think we can set that aside as well.
Dynamic DHCP address registration would appear to be the key issue. Based on the logs you posted, you have essentially no dynamic DHCP activity in your network. None between March 29 and April 15. The people experiencing the problem have lots of dynamic DHCP activity.
I don't think it's your settings that make you immune, I think it's your environment.
As an experiment, I turned off DHCP registration last night. I have not had a issue since. This isn't how I want to run, but I am more interested in general DNS reliability than being able to resolve dynamic client names.
I can tell you my settings…
Enabled:
DNSSEC
DHCP Registration
Static DHCP
In advanced Settings besides what came enabled, I also Enabled:
Hide Identity
Hide Version
Prefetch Support
Prefetch DNS Key Support
Harden DNSSEC data
Unwanted Reply Threshold 10 million -
I am using static leases in DHCP for everything that is normally present (minus wireless for android devices and visitors etc)
I wouldn't want to register every DHCP client in DNS if I was hosting open free wifi to 100s of random users though.
I just can't imagine the need. Why?
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This bug is incredibly annoying, as resolves fails for quite a few minutes after restart.
Is there a ticket on this, or is it being worked on already?
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Like I wrote a bit earlier for me it is important that the cache works and that I get fast DNS response time for the clients so I'd also like to use the prefetch feature. Since both doesn't work when the service is constantly restarted (cache hit rate around 5% and basically no prefetches) I really wanted to fix this one and I started digging into the code.
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For me the whole unbound code looks very messy. Example:
In many files a function "services_unbound_configure()" is called when starting or re-starting unbound and also in various other scenarios. This function is defined in the services.inc.
The first and worst thing that always happens when calling this function:
// kill any running Unbound instance
if (file_exists("{$g['varrun_path']}/unbound.pid"))
sigkillbypid("{$g['varrun_path']}/unbound.pid", "TERM");
That means: Cache is lost. Each time this function is called.
Unbound got a few nice features using unbound-control, e.g. killing the process is not necessary in many cases since unbound-control reload could help often. Also the cache could be stored and recovered afterwards. But I can't see this happening here.
So after killing unbound an doing a few other things the function calls sync_unbound_service().
This function is defined in unbound.inc and does various things:
function sync_unbound_service() {
global $config, $g;
create_unbound_chroot_path();
// Configure our Unbound service
do_as_unbound_user("unbound-anchor");
unbound_remote_control_setup();
unbound_generate_config();
do_as_unbound_user("start");
require_once("service-utils.inc");
if (is_service_running("unbound"))
do_as_unbound_user("restore_cache");
}
So there would be an option to recover the cache - but - that works only if it is stored before killing unbound.
Also the function call do_as_unbound_user("restore_cache") wouldn't work because it would end up in a break since "restore_cache" is not defined for this function.
function do_as_unbound_user($cmd) {
global $g;
switch ($cmd) {
case "start":
mwexec("/usr/local/sbin/unbound -c {$g['unbound_chroot_path']}/unbound.conf");
break;
case "stop":
mwexec("echo '/usr/local/sbin/unbound-control stop' | /usr/bin/su -m unbound", true);
break;
case "reload":
mwexec("echo '/usr/local/sbin/unbound-control reload' | /usr/bin/su -m unbound", true);
break;
case "unbound-anchor":
mwexec("echo '/usr/local/sbin/unbound-anchor -a {$g['unbound_chroot_path']}/root.key' | /usr/bin/su -m unbound", true);
break;
case "unbound-control-setup":
mwexec("echo '/usr/local/sbin/unbound-control-setup -d {$g['unbound_chroot_path']}' | /usr/bin/su -m unbound", true);
break;
default:
break;
}
}
Anyway, after seeing this and many other areas that look VERY strange to me I gave up. Again, it might be me, I'm no programmer, I might be misinterpreting a lot here but it looks like the whole unbound implementation requires cleanup from an experienced programmer.So I implemented a workaround which works for me and it might work for others as well.
- I'm registering the client DHCP addresses at a Windows DNS server.
- I'm using only static WAN IPs
- I'm not using any DDNS
So in other words: I can't see any reason why unbound should ever be restarted on my box (probably unless I do a config change).
What I did is I removed last night the ability to restart unbound. That means for me if I'm doing config changes I either need to manually execute "unbound-control reload" or I need to stop and start the service.These are the changes I did last night in services.inc (changes are in bold red letters):
function services_unbound_configure() {
global $config, $g;
$return = 0;
if (isset($config['system']['developerspew'])) {
$mt = microtime();
echo "services_unbound_configure() being called $mt\n";
}
// kill any running Unbound instance
//if (file_exists("{$g['varrun_path']}/unbound.pid"))
//sigkillbypid("{$g['varrun_path']}/unbound.pid", "TERM");
require_once("service-utils.inc");
if (!(get_service_status(find_service_by_name('unbound')))) {
if (isset($config['unbound']['enable'])) {
if (platform_booting())
echo gettext("Starting DNS Resolver…");
else
sleep(1);
/* generate hosts file */
if(system_hosts_generate()!=0)
$return = 1;
require_once('/etc/inc/unbound.inc');
sync_unbound_service();
if (platform_booting())
echo gettext("done.") . "\n";
system_dhcpleases_configure();
}
if (!platform_booting()) {
if (services_dhcpd_configure()!=0)
$return = 1;
}
} return $return;
}That means for me since last night:
Prefetches from around 0 to around 5%
Cache hit rate from around 5% to around 30%Hope that helps others as well who are suffering from the constant unbound restarts…
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In many files a function "services_unbound_configure()" is called when starting or re-starting unbound and also in various other scenarios. This function is defined in the services.inc.
The first and worst thing that always happens when calling this function:
// kill any running Unbound instance
if (file_exists("{$g['varrun_path']}/unbound.pid"))
sigkillbypid("{$g['varrun_path']}/unbound.pid", "TERM");
That means: Cache is lost. Each time this function is called.The cache is lost no matter what, even on the "graceful" unbound-control reload (per unbound docs). It would flush it anyway.
reload Reload the server. This flushes the cache and reads the config file fresh.
I cannot see any solution here to losing the cache beyond crude hacks (restore the cache every time…) until the retarded design is fixed upstream.
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The cache is lost no matter what, even on the "graceful" unbound-control reload (per unbound docs). It would flush it anyway. I cannot see any solution here to losing the cache beyond crude hacks (restore the cache every time…) until the retarded design is fixed upstream.
Completely correct, that's why I wrote
Also the cache could be stored and recovered afterwards. But I can't see this happening here.
Regarding the "reload" I see this simply as a more elegant way than killing a process. That's why I mentioned it.
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Did you try this instead?
if (file_exists("{$g['varrun_path']}/unbound.pid")) sigkillbypid("{$g['varrun_path']}/unbound.pid", "HUP");This would need to be moved just before the final
return $return;obviously - I don't get the "logic" behind killing the service first and then doing some reconfiguration. :o ::)
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Did you try this instead?
if (file_exists("{$g['varrun_path']}/unbound.pid")) sigkillbypid("{$g['varrun_path']}/unbound.pid", "HUP");This would need to be moved just before the final
return $return;obviously - I don't get the "logic" behind killing the service first and then doing some reconfiguration. :o ::)
I haven't tried because I don't want/need the process to be killed or restarted at all.
Since this function is called to start and to restart the process I'm checking if the process is running with this line "if (!(get_service_status(find_service_by_name('unbound'))))" and if it is already running I simply do nothing.In my opinion the first thing that should happen is to split the start and the restart function and also to add a check box "keep cache when restarting" to the GUI which causes an "unbound-control dump_cache" and after restarting it runs an "unbound-control load_cache".
But changing the scripts to accomplish that goes far beyond my skills.
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I haven't tried because I don't want/need the process to be killed or restarted at all.
Since this function is called to start and to restart the process I'm checking if the process is running with this line "if (!(get_service_status(find_service_by_name('unbound'))))" and if it is already running I simply do nothing.Well, this hack obviously is not acceptable, since it breaks things like the DHCP registration… So, we should move to testing something that might get accepted instead. :P
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Well, this hack obviously is not acceptable, since it breaks things like the DHCP registration… So, we should move to testing something that might get accepted instead. :P
Sure… This is really just a workaround and for me it works like a charm. Obviously this can't go into release this way.
I was posting this because it might help others, too, who don't use dynamic WAN IPs and DHCP registration in unbound.
What really needs to be happen would be to fix AND clean up unbound.inc and services.inc.
I would love to help (obviously I'm not too lazy, the investigation and the workaround took me a few hours) but my skills are simply not good enough to provide a "proper" solution even though it doesn't look too complicated to me so I might give it a try...For now (and for anyone who wants to use it): The workaround works perfect for me. But don't blame me if it kills your box. :)
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Actually all the code to dump/restore cache is there. Just the checkbox to enable the dumpcache var went AWOL. This was there with the 2.1 package.
https://github.com/pfsense/pfsense-packages/blob/master/config/unbound/unbound.xml#L179
EDIT: Filed a bug about the missing cache save/restore - https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/4667
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I saw the code in unbound.inc, that handles the dump_cache and load_cache.
It might be the solution.
So I activated the 'dump_cache' facilities, so that before a 'reload', the cache was dumped.Have a look at this:
function unbound_control($action) { global $config, $g; $cache_dumpfile = "/var/tmp/unbound_cache"; switch ($action) { case "start": ..... case "stop": ..... case "reload": ..... case "dump_cache": // Dump Unbound's Cache if ($config['unbound']['dumpcache'] == "on") do_as_unbound_user("dump_cache"); break; case "restore_cache": // Restore Unbound's Cache if ((is_service_running("unbound")) && ($config['unbound']['dumpcache'] == "on")) { if (file_exists($cache_dumpfile) && filesize($cache_dumpfile) > 0) do_as_unbound_user("load_cache < /var/tmp/unbound_cache"); } break; default: break; } }Be carefully : $config['unbound']['dumpcache'] isn't defined neither declared in the GUI.
And doing something like this: do_as_unbound_user("load_cache < /var/tmp/unbound_cache");
will not work. The function do_as_unbound_user() works not that way.
Anyway, I had my unbound cache being dumped before restart.And then I started to think … after reading this:
load_cache The contents of the cache is loaded from stdin. Uses the same format as dump_cache uses. Loading the cache with old, or wrong data can result in old or wrong data returned to clients. Load- ing data into the cache in this way is supported in order to aid with debugging.Consider the situation: unbound starts, and read all the files its need, like /var/etc/hosts, the DHCP leases file, etc.
Then we instruct it to load the cache file, /var/tmp/unbound_cache
It doesn't take long to discover that the internal working cache (with the new local info) in unbound is being replaced by what has been written in /var/tmp/unbound_cache.
F*ck.
Doing so makes it completely useless to restart unbound to begin with …... >:(
As said in the doc: dump_cache and load_cache exists for debugging purposes.Leaves me with one idea: ditch unbound, even if it is the most secured name server, and make friends with bind...... (one of the most used name server on the planet !?!), which, I'm pretty sure, doesn't 'work' like this.
edit: hopping through the unbound source code make me think: it 'reloads' when reading in a cache file …. :o
Well .....
