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  • K
    KOM
    last edited by Dec 8, 2015, 1:43 PM

    And you're sure that this PC-BSD box isn't running a browser that is trying to talk to Bing, for whatever reason?  Otherwise, I really can't see a *BSD distro needing to talk to Microsoft for anything.

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      2chemlud Banned
      last edited by Dec 8, 2015, 2:28 PM

      What could make Firefox with No-script in private mode make talk to Bing, except using Bing, is this the question? Honestly, I don't know!

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        KOM
        last edited by Dec 8, 2015, 4:31 PM

        Perhaps it's a beacon or something on some page you were on that it talking to Bing?  Some other plugin you're running?  I have no idea either, just wild guesses.

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          2chemlud Banned
          last edited by Dec 8, 2015, 4:33 PM

          … no further plugins, except Cipherfox... ;-)

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            2chemlud Banned
            last edited by Dec 8, 2015, 4:41 PM

            …btw, I did it in the past, with 2 bridged network adapters catch whole internet traffic with wireshark. Is it better to do it on the WAN or on the LAN interface of the pfSense?

            On the WAN side the local IP the traffic is comming from should gone, right?

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              cmb
              last edited by Dec 9, 2015, 5:12 AM

              Full of blocks to where? What IP(s)? PCBSD runs from a CDN, which might also host any number of other completely unrelated things. Doubt if Microsoft is among those as I believe they use akamai, but knowing list maintainers' penchant for over-blocking, it wouldn't be surprising if they blocked an entire CDN.

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                2chemlud Banned
                last edited by Dec 9, 2015, 7:17 AM

                The specific IP in the post above, same IP again and again.

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                  sodasam
                  last edited by Dec 9, 2015, 5:25 PM

                  :-\Hi,

                  I tried to follow these instructions but pfsense is not allowing me to save these hosts as an alias or under any other type. Here is a snapshot of what I am doing https://imgur.com/XpW9uI8

                  I would also like to block incoming tor exit nodes and I dont see any easy way to add the hundreds of IP's, does anyone know how that can be done on the command line?

                  Can you kindly tell me the correct way to do this or how I can do it on the command line?

                  Thanks!

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                    KOM
                    last edited by Dec 9, 2015, 5:35 PM

                    The name of the alias may only consist of the characters "a-z, A-Z, 0-9 and _"

                    You can embed images directly here.  No need to link to Imgur.

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                      sodasam
                      last edited by Dec 9, 2015, 5:35 PM

                      @KOM:

                      The name of the alias may only consist of the characters "a-z, A-Z, 0-9 and _"

                      Ok fine but how do I add all these urls?

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                        KOM
                        last edited by Dec 9, 2015, 5:37 PM

                        Make an URL alias.

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                          sodasam
                          last edited by Dec 9, 2015, 5:39 PM

                          @KOM:

                          Make an URL alias.

                          That provides the same error and this:

                          The following input errors were detected:

                          The alias name must be less than 32 characters long, may not consist of only numbers, and may only contain the following characters a-z, A-Z, 0-9, _.
                          You must provide a valid URL. Could not fetch usable data from 'vortex.data.microsoft.com'.

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                            KOM
                            last edited by Dec 9, 2015, 5:45 PM

                            Well, considering I have no idea what you've done, all I can say is that it works fine for me and others.  Perhaps if you posted some actual useful information about your configuration, we might be able to help you.

                            An URL Alias is just an URL that points to a file on a web server, and pfSense will load that alias with the content of the text file.

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                              sodasam
                              last edited by Dec 9, 2015, 5:50 PM

                              @sodasam:

                              @KOM:

                              Make an URL alias.

                              That provides the same error and this:

                              The following input errors were detected:

                              The alias name must be less than 32 characters long, may not consist of only numbers, and may only contain the following characters a-z, A-Z, 0-9, _.
                              You must provide a valid URL. Could not fetch usable data from 'vortex.data.microsoft.com'.

                              Sorry here is another example:

                              https://imgur.com/2R0sYVW

                              I did some searching for where pfsense stores those files on the server but have not been able to find it, any idea?

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                                2chemlud Banned
                                last edited by Dec 9, 2015, 5:57 PM

                                Don't. Use. SPACE. In. The. Name!

                                (Block MS Telemetry = wrong, Block_MS_Telemetry = correct) :-D

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                                  sodasam
                                  last edited by Dec 9, 2015, 6:00 PM

                                  @2chemlud:

                                  Don't. Use. SPACE. In. The. Name!

                                  (Block MS Telemetry = wrong, Block_MS_Telemetry = correct) :-D

                                  Ahh. That helped thanks. I changed the type to hosts and it works now, cheers!

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                                    sodasam
                                    last edited by Dec 9, 2015, 6:05 PM

                                    Is there a way to block more than 5000 hosts in a single alias or rule? Intending to block inbound tor exit nodes and I think the list is 7000 IP's. Maybe on the command line alias file?

                                    Thanks!

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                                      2chemlud Banned
                                      last edited by Dec 9, 2015, 6:07 PM

                                      Tried Snort (on LAN interface) ? Afaik if blocks contacts to TOR servers (have seen it in my Snort alerts), no idea how up-to-date the list of servers is…

                                      btw., how about a new thread, this all here is miles OT.... ;-)

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                                        LEPM
                                        last edited by Dec 9, 2015, 6:37 PM

                                        to block telemetry in a single PC use DWS_lite
                                        Open source,code on github.

                                        https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/bf600fc1517f65f15f4e174087759973837cfe99e419f2c52f6d248dee6eb72f/analysis/1449685802/

                                        https://github.com/Nummer/Destroy-Windows-10-Spying/blob/master/DWS

                                        string[] ipAddr =
                                                    {
                                                        "111.221.29.177",
                                                        "111.221.29.253",
                                                        "131.253.40.37",
                                                        "134.170.30.202",
                                                        "134.170.115.60",
                                                        "134.170.165.248",
                                                        "134.170.165.253",
                                                        "134.170.185.70",
                                                        "137.116.81.24",
                                                        "137.117.235.16",
                                                        "157.55.129.21",
                                                        "157.55.133.204",
                                                        "157.56.121.89",
                                                        "157.56.91.77",
                                                        "168.63.108.233",
                                                        "191.232.139.254",
                                                        "191.232.80.58",
                                                        "191.232.80.62",
                                                        "191.237.208.126",
                                                        //"204.79.197.200", // BING.COM
                                                        "207.46.101.29",
                                                        "207.46.114.58",
                                                        "207.46.223.94",
                                                        "207.68.166.254",
                                                        "212.30.134.204",
                                                        "212.30.134.205",
                                                        "23.102.21.4",
                                                        "23.99.10.11",
                                                        "23.218.212.69",
                                                        "64.4.54.22",
                                                        "64.4.54.32",
                                                        "64.4.6.100",
                                                        "65.39.117.230",
                                                        "65.52.100.11",
                                                        "65.52.100.7",
                                                        "65.52.100.9",
                                                        "65.52.100.91",
                                                        "65.52.100.92",
                                                        "65.52.100.93",
                                                        "65.52.100.94",
                                                        "65.52.108.29",
                                                        "65.55.108.23",
                                                        "65.55.138.114",
                                                        "65.55.138.126",
                                                        "65.55.138.186",
                                                        "65.55.252.63",
                                                        "65.55.252.71",
                                                        "65.55.252.92",
                                                        "65.55.252.93",
                                                        "65.55.29.238",
                                                        "65.55.39.10",
                                                        "191.232.139.2",
                                                        "64.4.23.0-64.4.23.255",
                                                        "111.221.64.0-111.221.127.255", // singapure
                                                        "157.55.235.0-157.55.235.255",
                                                        "157.55.56.0-157.55.56.255",
                                                        "157.55.52.0-157.55.52.255",
                                                        "157.55.130.0-157.55.130.255",
                                                        "65.55.223.0-65.55.223.255",
                                                        "213.199.179.0-213.199.179.255", // Ireland
                                                        "195.138.255.0-195.138.255.255",
                                                        "23.223.20.82", // cache.datamart.windows.com
                                                        "77.67.29.176", // NEW TH2 Spy IP
                                                        "157.56.124.87", // NEW TH2 Spy IP
                                                        "157.55.236.0-157.55.236.255", // NEW TH2 SPY IP
                                                        "104.96.147.3",
                                                        "23.57.107.27",
                                                        "23.57.107.163",
                                                        "23.57.101.163",
                                                        "2.22.61.43",
                                                        "2.22.61.66",
                                                        "65.39.117.230",
                                                        "23.218.212.69",
                                                        "134.170.30.202",
                                                        "137.116.81.24",
                                                        "157.56.106.189",
                                                        "204.79.197.200",
                                                        "65.52.108.33"
                                                    };
                                        
                                        string[] hostsdomains =
                                                        {
                                                            "statsfe2.update.microsoft.com.akadns.net",
                                                            "fe2.update.microsoft.com.akadns.net",
                                                            "s0.2mdn.net",
                                                            "survey.watson.microsoft.com",
                                                            "view.atdmt.com",
                                                            "watson.microsoft.com",
                                                            "watson.ppe.telemetry.microsoft.com",
                                                            "vortex.data.microsoft.com",
                                                            "vortex-win.data.microsoft.com",
                                                            "telecommand.telemetry.microsoft.com",
                                                            "telecommand.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net",
                                                            "oca.telemetry.microsoft.com",
                                                            "sqm.telemetry.microsoft.com",
                                                            "sqm.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net",
                                                            "watson.telemetry.microsoft.com",
                                                            "watson.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net",
                                                            "redir.metaservices.microsoft.com",
                                                            "choice.microsoft.com",
                                                            "choice.microsoft.com.nsatc.net",
                                                            "wes.df.telemetry.microsoft.com",
                                                            "services.wes.df.telemetry.microsoft.com",
                                                            "sqm.df.telemetry.microsoft.com",
                                                            "telemetry.microsoft.com",
                                                            "telemetry.appex.bing.net",
                                                            "telemetry.urs.microsoft.com",
                                                            "telemetry.appex.bing.net:443",
                                                            "settings-sandbox.data.microsoft.com",
                                                            "watson.live.com",
                                                            "statsfe2.ws.microsoft.com",
                                                            "corpext.msitadfs.glbdns2.microsoft.com",
                                                            "compatexchange.cloudapp.net",
                                                            "a-0001.a-msedge.net",
                                                            "sls.update.microsoft.com.akadns.net",
                                                            "diagnostics.support.microsoft.com",
                                                            "corp.sts.microsoft.com",
                                                            "statsfe1.ws.microsoft.com",
                                                            "feedback.windows.com",
                                                            "feedback.microsoft-hohm.com",
                                                            "feedback.search.microsoft.com",
                                                            "rad.msn.com",
                                                            "preview.msn.com",
                                                            "ad.doubleclick.net",
                                                            "ads.msn.com",
                                                            "ads1.msads.net",
                                                            "ads1.msn.com",
                                                            "a.ads1.msn.com",
                                                            "a.ads2.msn.com",
                                                            "adnexus.net",
                                                            "adnxs.com",
                                                            "az361816.vo.msecnd.net",
                                                            "az512334.vo.msecnd.net",
                                                            "ssw.live.com",
                                                            "ca.telemetry.microsoft.com",
                                                            "i1.services.social.microsoft.com",
                                                            "i1.services.social.microsoft.com.nsatc.net",
                                                            "df.telemetry.microsoft.com",
                                                            "reports.wes.df.telemetry.microsoft.com",
                                                            "cs1.wpc.v0cdn.net",
                                                            "vortex-sandbox.data.microsoft.com",
                                                            "oca.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net",
                                                            "pre.footprintpredict.com",
                                                            "spynet2.microsoft.com",
                                                            "spynetalt.microsoft.com",
                                                            "fe3.delivery.dsp.mp.microsoft.com.nsatc.net",
                                                            "cache.datamart.windows.com",
                                                            "db3wns2011111.wns.windows.com", // NEW TH2 spy hosts
                                                            //"deploy.static.akamaitechnologies.com",
                                                            //"akamaitechnologies.com"
                                                            "settings-win.data.microsoft.com",
                                                            "v10.vortex-win.data.microsoft.com",
                                                            "win10.ipv6.microsoft.com",
                                                            "ca.telemetry.microsoft.com",
                                                            "i1.services.social.microsoft.com.nsatc.net"
                                                        };
                                        

                                        Windows Update is not blocked !!!

                                        Your new system is probably coming with some hyper trash like Windows 8

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                                          2chemlud Banned
                                          last edited by Dec 9, 2015, 6:41 PM

                                          Hi, any details where this list comes from?

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