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    How to block in Windows10 Telemetry with pfsense

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      foresthus
      last edited by

      Hi there,

      I would like to do more than editing the regsitry in Windows to block the funktion telemetry. Is it possible to block it in pfblocker, squidguard or native with firewall rules? The aim is that the updates should still work.

      In the regedit you can navigate to "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \ SOFTWARE \ Policies \ Microsoft \ Windows \ Data Collection" and create by right-clicking a file DWORD (32-bit). Rename it to "AllowTelemetry". The value must be set to "0" (normally this is done automatically).

      Another idea is to block cloud-server to microsoft an d those to https://www.iblocklist.com/.

      Any ideas?

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        n3by
        last edited by

        Hi,
        try this:

        make an alias to allow MS_update with this:

        download.windowsupdate.com	-w7 xp
        update.microsoft.com	- w7 xp
        sls.update.microsoft.com.akadns.net	- w8.1
        vortex.data.microsoft.com	- w8.1
        vortex-win.data.microsoft.com	- w8.1
        fe2.update.microsoft.com.akadns.net	- w8.1
        statsfe2.update.microsoft.com.akadns.net	-w8.1 not required at the moment ?
        

        make another alias to block MS_telemetry with this:

        vortex.data.microsoft.com
        vortex-win.data.microsoft.com
        telecommand.telemetry.microsoft.com
        telecommand.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
        oca.telemetry.microsoft.com
        oca.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
        sqm.telemetry.microsoft.com
        sqm.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
        watson.telemetry.microsoft.com
        watson.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
        redir.metaservices.microsoft.com
        choice.microsoft.com
        choice.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
        df.telemetry.microsoft.com
        reports.wes.df.telemetry.microsoft.com
        wes.df.telemetry.microsoft.com
        services.wes.df.telemetry.microsoft.com
        sqm.df.telemetry.microsoft.com
        telemetry.microsoft.com
        watson.ppe.telemetry.microsoft.com
        telemetry.appex.bing.net
        telemetry.urs.microsoft.com
        telemetry.appex.bing.net:443
        settings-sandbox.data.microsoft.com
        vortex-sandbox.data.microsoft.com
        survey.watson.microsoft.com
        watson.live.com
        watson.microsoft.com
        statsfe2.ws.microsoft.com
        corpext.msitadfs.glbdns2.microsoft.com
        compatexchange.cloudapp.net
        cs1.wpc.v0cdn.net
        a-0001.a-msedge.net
        statsfe2.update.microsoft.com.akadns.net
        sls.update.microsoft.com.akadns.net
        fe2.update.microsoft.com.akadns.net
        diagnostics.support.microsoft.com
        corp.sts.microsoft.com
        statsfe1.ws.microsoft.com
        pre.footprintpredict.com
        i1.services.social.microsoft.com
        i1.services.social.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
        feedback.windows.com
        feedback.microsoft-hohm.com
        feedback.search.microsoft.com
        rad.msn.com
        preview.msn.com
        ad.doubleclick.net
        ads.msn.com
        ads1.msads.net
        ads1.msn.com
        a.ads1.msn.com
        a.ads2.msn.com
        adnexus.net
        adnxs.com
        az361816.vo.msecnd.net
        az512334.vo.msecnd.net
        vortex-bn2.metron.live.com.nsatc.net
        vortex-cy2.metron.live.com.nsatc.net
        dmd.metaservices.microsoft.com
        

        add appropriate rules at firewall to allow the MS_update and after that rule to block the MS_telemetry.

        feel free to experiment and add another domains if you have… in case you want to block all MS just disable the MS_update rule.

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          foresthus
          last edited by

          Hi,

          thnx 4 the quick response. Where did u get all the urls from?

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            n3by
            last edited by

            from here and from traffic logs:
            http://pastebin.com/ULJjVM7w

            edit:

            here it is an updated list
            http://www.pcsympathy.com/

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              foresthus
              last edited by

              Thank you very much.

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                cyberbot
                last edited by

                @foresthus:

                Thank you very much.

                telemtry uses a million links
                Blocking those won't rely block it
                I have created some powershell to disable this .

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                  foresthus
                  last edited by

                  Hi there,

                  and do you show us all this script?

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                  • KOMK
                    KOM
                    last edited by

                    A centralized solution would be best.  If you're going to go local, why not just use one of the many utils already out there?

                    http://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10

                    http://pxc-coding.com/portfolio/donotspy10/

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                    • BBcan177B
                      BBcan177 Moderator
                      last edited by

                      http://thehackernews.com/2015/08/windows-10-privacy-spying.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheHackersNews+%28The+Hackers+News+-+Security+Blog%29

                      http://thehackernews.com/2015/08/windows-10-disables-pirated-games-microsoft.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheHackersNews+%28The+Hackers+News+-+Security+Blog%29

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                        robi
                        last edited by

                        Well, looking at the news, I decided to simply not upgrade my Win7 to the free Win10.
                        Instead, I'm starting to evaluate seriously using a Linux distro as a desktop OS. Ubuntu-MATE is a really good candidate given that the user interface can be easily customized to look similar to Windows (just as Linux Mint too).

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                          foresthus
                          last edited by

                          @cyberbot:

                          @foresthus:

                          Thank you very much.

                          telemtry uses a million links
                          Blocking those won't rely block it
                          I have created some powershell to disable this .

                          Hi there,

                          Still waiting for the script. Will it be posted?

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                            foresthus
                            last edited by

                            @robi:

                            Well, looking at the news, I decided to simply not upgrade my Win7 to the free Win10.
                            Instead, I'm starting to evaluate seriously using a Linux distro as a desktop OS. Ubuntu-MATE is a really good candidate given that the user interface can be easily customized to look similar to Windows (just as Linux Mint too).

                            Hi,

                            do u really think, that win7 or above are not connecting to MS? LOL
                            You mentioned to stay close to win7. That is OK 4 me, but a solution to the problem that ms-infos of your station might be send to ms or even other companies working with ms together is still present. There I would test your workstation, with a firewall before, what traffic is going to which URL or ip.

                            The best solution is say farewell 2 your ms-system and switch over to linux.

                            It just an idea  ;) Do not 4get that the whole world wants 2 go to cloudservices (not only ms)

                            cu

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                            • KOMK
                              KOM
                              last edited by

                              I decided to simply not upgrade my Win7

                              All the same telemetry shit was added to 7, 8 and 8.1 in a recent Windows Update.

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                                n3by
                                last edited by

                                Do you have that w7 w8.1 update nr ?

                                If is not marked as security then can be uninstalled if by mistake somebody installed.

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                                  robi
                                  last edited by

                                  Thank God I already switched my machines to Linux.
                                  To be really honest, I really don't see any difference while using it. I was perfectly able to switch over all my workflows to Ubuntu Mate.

                                  Win7 is still there "dormant" on the disk as the installs are dual-boot at the moment, but if I'll be able to sustain the Linux desktop the way it is, absolutely frustrationless for about 2-3 months, I'll be surely deleting the Windows partition to reclaim the space.

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                                    robi
                                    last edited by

                                    @KOM:

                                    A centralized solution would be best.

                                    Agree, but that would be very hard to accomplish, because at a central location, it will be very hard to distinguish between useful traffic and and Microsoft telemetry traffic.
                                    I guess they were smart enough to bypass simple firewall rules by frequently changing CDN IPs and addresses.

                                    And local solutions installed on Windows 10s themselves are not trustful.

                                    So, the only real solution is to either:
                                    a) don't upgrade to Windows 10
                                    b) switch over to something else

                                    Of course the fact that all this telemetry was deployed to Win7 and Win8 engraves the situation. Hopefully it can be uninstalled somehow.

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                                      robi
                                      last edited by

                                      @n3by:

                                      Do you have that w7 w8.1 update nr ?

                                      http://www.infoworld.com/article/2911609/operating-systems/kb-2952664-compatibility-update-for-win7-triggers-unexpected-daily-telemetry-run-may-be-snooping.html
                                      https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/3g7hr0/removing_telemetry_from_windows_7_and_8x/

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                                      • KOMK
                                        KOM
                                        last edited by

                                        Thank God I already switched my machines to Linux.

                                        I've been contemplating that for 10+ years, but there was always a reliance on special software that I couldn't get for Linux.  Now that I don't do a lot of desktop stuff at home anymore, I'm thinking now might be the time to dump Win10 and go with Mint Cinnamon.

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                                          robi
                                          last edited by

                                          You can find equivalent programs under Linux for most of the daily tasks. No to little effort is required to switch over.
                                          There could be though very special industrial apps which were made for Windows-only, that's true. But for the regular home user, Linux is a perfect alternative.

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                                          • KOMK
                                            KOM
                                            last edited by

                                            I've been adminning Linux boxes for more than a decade so I'm generally aware of what's available.  For me, the showstoppers were always a decent money-management app (eg. Quicken, MS Money), a good Usenet browser (eg. Newsleecher, Forte Agent) and a decent RSS reader (eg. Feeddemon, QuiteRSS).  Nowadays I don't use a money app, Usenet indexers have removed the need for an NNTP browser, and there are several decent RSS readers for Linux.  I really should have thought of this 2 weeks ago before I spent a weekend doing the Windows 10 thing.

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