Looking for a nice switch!



  • Hello,

    I'm in the process of searching for a new switch. Currently I have an 8 port Netgear one (Smart Managed). However, I'm planning to expand the network and get a bit more of control over it. The switch I'm looking for should have the following characteristics:

    • 19'' Rack mountable
    • Between 20-24 RJ45 ports
    • L2 managed is enough for me (home/small office environment)
    • All ports RJ45 1000mbps
    • VLAN support
    • Nice to have 2 or 4 10gbe for the future (if it makes sense). For my ballpark, to get this it will be probably have to be used

    I don't mind if it's used (but not too old) as long as I find it on eBay or similar. My ballpark is around 260€ (290$)

    For new ones, I've checked:

    Is there any other good brands on Switches I should take a look at? Any good used model I should search for?



  • I have been using a 48-port Netgear managed switch close to 6 years now and highly recommend them. Not saying others are bad.



  • Thanks! do you remember the model?

    Also, is there something in particular that I should look at when buying a switch?



  • @bluepr0:

    Also, is there something in particular that I should look at when buying a switch?

    Power consumption.
    Noise/Fanless
    firmware update policy (can you get access to it after X years?)
    Copper or fiber 10GB? I doubt you'll get 10Gb for the price you quote though I haven't looked recently.



  • Also, is there something in particular that I should look at when buying a switch?

    it should be coming together with Web configuration option and CLI besides and should own a serial
    port in any condition or form, likes a real DB9 serial port, USB to console port or RJ45 console port.

    • If you plan to install more then one switch, it could be good to get some stackable switches
    • Power consuming and fan loudness might be perhaps for a personal or private usage also interesting
    • If at any time something goes wrong, you will be able to revive this Switch then over this console port.
    • Perhaps switches with dual firmware, if something goes wrong, you could boot the switch from firmware 2
    • Pending your wishes (10 GbE & VLANs) a Layer3 switch is better then a Layer2 switch, because the
      firewall must be routing then between the VLANs and should or must be connected then also over
      10 GbE to the switch!!! This can be prevented from, by using a Layer3 switch that is routing all
      traffic by itself and the firewall must be not integrated into this work. A Cheap one is the D-Link
      DGS1510-24 it has 2 SFP+ Ports.

    Layer2 switches:

    • ZyXEL XGS1910-24 ~360 €  8)
    • 24 x RJ45 GB LAN Ports
    • 2 x SFP+ 10 GbE Ports
    • Cisco SG200-26-K9-G5 ~300 €  ;)
    • 24 x RJ45 GB LAN Ports
    • _2 x SFP GB LAN Ports
    • No 10 GbE or SFP+_
    • Netgear M4100 Series (GSM7224) ~450 €  :o
      Fully managed Layer2+ (Edge Switch)
    • 24 x RJ45 GB LAN Ports
    • 4 x SFP+ 10 GbE Ports
    • No 10 GbE or SFP+
    • Netgear (GS728TXS) ~510 €  :-*
      Smart Managed & Stackable Layer2+
    • 24 x RJ45 GB LAN Ports
    • 4 x SFP+ 10 GbE Ports
    • Netgear S3300 Series (GS728TX) ~590 €  :o
      Smart Managed & Stackable Layer2+ (Access Switch)
    • 24 x RJ45 GB LAN Ports
    • 2 x 10GBase-T uplink or stacking
    • 2 x SFP+ uplink or stacking

    Layer3 switches:

    • D-Link DGS1510-28 ~260 €  :D
    • 24 x RJ45 GB LAN Ports
    • 2 x SFP GB LAN Ports
    • 2 x SFP+ 10 GbE Ports
    • Cisco SG300-26-K9-G5 ~350 €  ;)
    • 24 x RJ45 GB LAN Ports
    • 2 x SFP GB LAN Ports
    • No 10 GbE or SFP+

    I have been using a 48-port Netgear managed switch close to 6 years now and highly recommend them. Not saying others are bad.

    But to get your hands on a Layer3 device from Netgear, you might be starting to search inside of
    the M5300 series and a really well corresponding Layer3 comparable against the Cisco SG300 will
    be useful, perhaps over a Layer3 license upgrade I wish for my own. Or perhaps across the whole
    product line it would be fine to see such a Layer3 license upgrade S3300, M4100 and M5300 Series.

    On the company we are using only Netgear Switches, at home I am using a D-Link DGS1510-28 switch.



  • What's your time frame for going 10GBe? If you don't need it now or in the next 6-12 months, it's generally cheaper in the long run to spec for your current needs and then upgrade when the time comes if required.



  • @bluepr0:

    Thanks! do you remember the model?

    GSM7248 v2



  • Wow! thanks a lot for your replies guys.

    @thermo:

    @bluepr0:

    Also, is there something in particular that I should look at when buying a switch?

    Power consumption.
    Noise/Fanless
    Copper or fiber 10GB? I doubt you'll get 10Gb for the price you quote though I haven't looked recently.

    You are very right, I'm really interested in the noise. If it can be fanless it would be better or a VERY quiet fan. Power consumption is also interesting to have in mind.

    I'm not entirely sure what's the difference between Fiber or Copper if they both provide 10GB of bandwidth? (latency, maybe?)

    @BlueKobold:

    Also, is there something in particular that I should look at when buying a switch?

    it should be coming together with Web configuration option and CLI besides and should own a serial
    port in any condition or form, likes a real DB9 serial port, USB to console port or RJ45 console port.

    • If you plan to install more then one switch, it could be good to get some stackable switches
    • Power consuming and fan loudness might be perhaps for a personal or private usage also interesting
    • If at any time something goes wrong, you will be able to revive this Switch then over this console port.
    • Perhaps switches with dual firmware, if something goes wrong, you could boot the switch from firmware 2
    • Pending your wishes (10 GbE & VLANs) a Layer3 switch is better then a Layer2 switch, because the
      firewall must be routing then between the VLANs and should or must be connected then also over
      10 GbE to the switch!!! This can be prevented from, by using a Layer3 switch that is routing all
      traffic by itself and the firewall must be not integrated into this work. A Cheap one is the D-Link
      DGS1510-24 it has 2 SFP+ Ports.

    Layer2 switches:

    • ZyXEL XGS1910-24 ~360 €  8)
    • 24 x RJ45 GB LAN Ports
    • 2 x SFP+ 10 GbE Ports
    • Cisco SG200-26-K9-G5 ~300 €  ;)
    • 24 x RJ45 GB LAN Ports
    • _2 x SFP GB LAN Ports
    • No 10 GbE or SFP+_
    • Netgear M4100 Series (GSM7224) ~450 €  :o
      Fully managed Layer2+ (Edge Switch)
    • 24 x RJ45 GB LAN Ports
    • 4 x SFP+ 10 GbE Ports
    • No 10 GbE or SFP+
    • Netgear (GS728TXS) ~510 €  :-*
      Smart Managed & Stackable Layer2+
    • 24 x RJ45 GB LAN Ports
    • 4 x SFP+ 10 GbE Ports
    • Netgear S3300 Series (GS728TX) ~590 €  :o
      Smart Managed & Stackable Layer2+ (Access Switch)
    • 24 x RJ45 GB LAN Ports
    • 2 x 10GBase-T uplink or stacking
    • 2 x SFP+ uplink or stacking

    Layer3 switches:

    • D-Link DGS1510-28 ~260 €  :D
    • 24 x RJ45 GB LAN Ports
    • 2 x SFP GB LAN Ports
    • 2 x SFP+ 10 GbE Ports
    • Cisco SG300-26-K9-G5 ~350 €  ;)
    • 24 x RJ45 GB LAN Ports
    • 2 x SFP GB LAN Ports
    • No 10 GbE or SFP+

    I have been using a 48-port Netgear managed switch close to 6 years now and highly recommend them. Not saying others are bad.

    But to get your hands on a Layer3 device from Netgear, you might be starting to search inside of
    the M5300 series and a really well corresponding Layer3 comparable against the Cisco SG300 will
    be useful, perhaps over a Layer3 license upgrade I wish for my own. Or perhaps across the whole
    product line it would be fine to see such a Layer3 license upgrade S3300, M4100 and M5300 Series.

    On the company we are using only Netgear Switches, at home I am using a D-Link DGS1510-28 switch.

    Absolutely amazing valuable information, thanks a lot for taking the time to write this down!. I took a look at the D-Link you suggested, and it seems really nice option! However it seems a bit noisy (fan runs at 44db). I will take your advice on better look for a L3 switch, as I'm planning on use VLAN for sure. Will check back again the D-Link website, maybe they have a fanless option with 10GBe  support

    @kesawi:

    What's your time frame for going 10GBe? If you don't need it now or in the next 6-12 months, it's generally cheaper in the long run to spec for your current needs and then upgrade when the time comes if required.

    Yes, around that time-frame. I'm working on a home server rack, so I will be spending money on a new switch, firewall and a NAS. For the later I'm planning to connect it to the 10gbe ports, but honestly it would be enough by also getting a quad LAN card and do LAG. 10gbe ports are a nice to have but not completely necessary!



  • D-Link DGS-1510 series
    Cisco SG500X series

    SG300/500 offer a console via serial, telnet and/or SSH. The SG200 don't. SG500X has 4 SFP+ ports. Probably a bit pricy.
    The DGS-1510 series seems to offer a lot of bang for the buck. Sometimes even available used on eBay. I haven't used them yet but they seem interesting.



  • @bluepr0:

    I'm in the process of searching for a new switch. Currently I have an 8 port Netgear one (Smart Managed). However, I'm planning to expand the network and get a bit more of control over it. The switch I'm looking for should have the following characteristics:

    • 19'' Rack mountable
    • Between 20-24 RJ45 ports
    • L2 managed is enough for me (home/small office environment)
    • All ports RJ45 1000mbps
    • VLAN support
    • Nice to have 2 or 4 10gbe for the future (if it makes sense). For my ballpark, to get this it will be probably have to be used

    I don't mind if it's used (but not too old) as long as I find it on eBay or similar. My ballpark is around 260€ (290$)

    If you are happy to dispense with 10Gbit support for now (as others have said, spec it when you need it), check out ZyXEL GS1920 series. I have a GS1920-48HP here, which is the 48 port version with 802.3at Power over Ethernet.

    GS1920-24 is the version with 24 ports and no PoE - I believe it's fanless. It's GBP120 from amazon.co.uk (though note that the Amazon description is wrong - PoE support is only on the more expensive HP versions) and around €150 from amazon.de (depending on which seller you choose - I've used Avides before). The rack mount ears are in the box. The user guide will give you a good idea of the capabilities. Firmware upgrades are free of charge.



  • @David_W:

    @bluepr0:

    I'm in the process of searching for a new switch. Currently I have an 8 port Netgear one (Smart Managed). However, I'm planning to expand the network and get a bit more of control over it. The switch I'm looking for should have the following characteristics:

    • 19'' Rack mountable
    • Between 20-24 RJ45 ports
    • L2 managed is enough for me (home/small office environment)
    • All ports RJ45 1000mbps
    • VLAN support
    • Nice to have 2 or 4 10gbe for the future (if it makes sense). For my ballpark, to get this it will be probably have to be used

    I don't mind if it's used (but not too old) as long as I find it on eBay or similar. My ballpark is around 260€ (290$)

    If you are happy to dispense with 10Gbit support for now (as others have said, spec it when you need it), check out ZyXEL GS1920 series. I have a GS1920-48HP here, which is the 48 port version with 802.3at Power over Ethernet.

    GS1920-24 is the version with 24 ports and no PoE - I believe it's fanless. It's GBP120 from amazon.co.uk (though note that the Amazon description is wrong - PoE support is only on the more expensive HP versions) and around €150 from amazon.de (depending on which seller you choose - I've used Avides before). The rack mount ears are in the box. The user guide will give you a good idea of the capabilities. Firmware upgrades are free of charge.

    Thanks a lot for your suggestions. One of the members of the forum pointed out that I should be getting a Layer 3 Switch as I will do VLAN (Not sure if Layer 2+ will do it, though). I have checked Zyxel products (L3 4500 series) but they seems quite expensive :(



  • @bluepr0:

    Thanks a lot for your suggestions. One of the members of the forum pointed out that I should be getting a Layer 3 Switch as I will do VLAN (Not sure if Layer 2+ will do it, though). I have checked Zyxel products (L3 4500 series) but they seems quite expensive :(

    You don't need a Layer 3 switch for VLANs - only if you want the switch to route traffic between VLANs autonomously, without involving pfSense or any other router.

    ZyXEL GS1920 is perfectly capable of running VLANs. This post comes to you via a GS1920-48HP with a configuration involving seven VLANs (with various combinations of tagged and untagged ports), link aggregation, spanning tree, IGMP snooping, MLD snooping (the IPv6 equivalent of IGMP snooping) and various other advanced features. The Power over Ethernet support in the HP versions is very well implemented, though the power budget is not as high as more expensive switches. 375W (the limit on the GS1920-48HP) is enough for me.

    GS1920-24 is a very capable switch for around €150. I posted a link to the 4.30 user guide so that you could see the feature set. If you get a switch with older 4.10 firmware, it's a five minute job to download and upgrade the firmware.

    If you really want Layer 3 and/or 10Gbit support, you're either going to be hunting for second hand switches that could well have very loud fans and be very power hungry, or you're going to blow your budget by a considerable margin.



  • There's an ongoing discussion on whether there is any benefits or issues in using pfSense or a Layer 3 switch to route between VLANs at /index.php?topic=104987.0.



  • @David_W:

    @bluepr0:

    Thanks a lot for your suggestions. One of the members of the forum pointed out that I should be getting a Layer 3 Switch as I will do VLAN (Not sure if Layer 2+ will do it, though). I have checked Zyxel products (L3 4500 series) but they seems quite expensive :(

    You don't need a Level 3 switch for VLANs - only if you want the switch to route traffic between VLANs autonomously, without involving pfSense or any other router.

    ZyXEL GS1920 is perfectly capable of running VLANs. This post comes to you via a GS1920-48HP with a configuration involving seven VLANs (with various combinations of tagged and untagged ports), link aggregation, spanning tree, IGMP snooping, MLD snooping (the IPv6 equivalent of IGMP snooping) and various other advanced features. The Power over Ethernet support in the HP versions is very well implemented, though the power budget is not as high as more expensive switches. 375W (the limit on the GS1920-48HP) is enough for me.

    GS1920-24 is a very capable switch for around €150. I posted a link to the 4.30 user guide so that you could see the feature set. If you get a switch with older 4.10 firmware, it's a five minute job to download and upgrade the firmware.

    If you really want Level 3 and/or 10Gbit support, you're either going to be hunting for second hand switches that could well have very loud fans and be very power hungry, or you're going to blow your budget by a considerable margin.

    Yep, I more or less understand that part! I currently have an 8 port with 2 VLANs. The thing is I wanted to avoid pfsense to do that job as there might be significant traffic between them!

    @kesawi:

    There's an ongoing discussion on whether there is any benefits or issues in using pfSense or a Layer 3 switch to route between VLANs at /index.php?topic=104987.0.

    Thanks, will take a look at it!



  • @bluepr0:

    The thing is I wanted to avoid pfsense to do that job as there might be significant traffic between them!

    It's worth thinking whether you can design your network in a way that avoids as much VLAN to VLAN traffic as possible. Connecting servers to every VLAN they need to serve (with appropriate firewall rules and ACLs on the services) might be sufficient for your purposes and would avoid the complexity of introducing L3 switching.

    Layer 3 switches tend to be rather expensive. You would need to investigate any second hand L3 switches carefully, especially about power usage, fan noise, whether they have IPv6 support and the costs of software licensing and updates.

    If you really need a L3 switch, it might be cheaper to go for a a small L3 switch with at least one 10Gbit port, linked to a 10Gbit port on a larger L2 switch (a couple of 10Gbit ports on that switch would suffice). It's difficult to envisage any home network needing more than 10Gbit/s of L3 switching bandwidth.



  • @bluepr0:

    Hello,

    I'm in the process of searching for a new switch. Currently I have an 8 port Netgear one (Smart Managed). However, I'm planning to expand the network and get a bit more of control over it. The switch I'm looking for should have the following characteristics:

    • 19'' Rack mountable
    • Between 20-24 RJ45 ports
    • L2 managed is enough for me (home/small office environment)
    • All ports RJ45 1000mbps
    • VLAN support
    • Nice to have 2 or 4 10gbe for the future (if it makes sense). For my ballpark, to get this it will be probably have to be used

    I don't mind if it's used (but not too old) as long as I find it on eBay or similar. My ballpark is around 260€ (290$)

    For new ones, I've checked:

    Is there any other good brands on Switches I should take a look at? Any good used model I should search for?

    Here are some good options:

    Cisco SG300-28  - $295.05                                                                        -
    http://www.amazon.com/Cisco-SG300-28-Ethernet-Switch-SRW2024-K9-NA/dp/B007I5AE8S/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1452296937&sr=8-1&keywords=Cisco+SG300-28

    Cisco SG 300-20  - $274.93
    http://www.amazon.com/Cisco-SG-300-20-SRW2016-K9-NA-20-Port/dp/B0041ORN9M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1452297203&sr=8-1&keywords=Cisco+SG300-20



  • I use a dozen of similar TP-Links, they are fast, reliable, and low-power consuming.



  • http://routerboard.com/CRS226-24G-2SplusIN

    this mikrotik one is good, and had two 10gb uplinks for future use



  • @messerchmidt:

    http://routerboard.com/CRS226-24G-2SplusIN

    this mikrotik one is good, and had two 10gb uplinks for future use

    Woha! How is this one so cheap?! Are these reliable? Thanks!



  • I have used a lot of the Mikrotik Products at work they are awesome products and are very reliable.  The routers are very nice for the money.  They have one that is a 72 core processor and will route over 100 Million packets per second.  For switches also have a look at Ubiquiti products their Edgeswitch line are awesome products as well and very reliable. They are based on the Broadcom fast path chipset which HP and Dell use as the base for some of their switches.  The company I work for uses all Mikrotik for routing and Ubiquiti Edgeswitch for switches.  We started with the Cisco SG300/SG500 switches but could get just as good of a switch for almost half the cost using Ubiquiti.  For example for a 24 port POE switch with a 250W power supply you are looking at $399.  The non POE version is $199 retail.  That Mikrotik CRS switch you linked to can also be a router.

    https://www.ubnt.com/edgemax/edgeswitch-lite/
    http://routerboard.com/CCR1072-1G-8Splus



  • Just as I anticipated when I began to read this thread, not a single mention of HP gear!  Although I loathe their consumer-grade stuff, the Procurve gear is quite good.  Their documentation and configuration/management interface beat Cisco by a mile.  I guess Cisco has such market domination that those who were raised on it tend to think HP stuff is weird.  But that can be a major advantage to you when it comes to finding used equipment at a great price.  Keep an open mind.



  • @bluepr0:

    Woha! How is this one {mikrotik} so cheap?!

    There is no free lunch. You get what you pay for.

    @thadrumr:

    I have used a lot of the Mikrotik Products

    Where are you from? In Europe they aren't particularly known as switch manufacturer. Just one of the zillion prosumer brands.

    @BillBraskey:

    Keep an open mind.

    As always!

    HP not being on this list just means there's nobody in this forum using them (or dare to write about it).

    I've used (in alphabetical order…)
    -3Com
    -Accton
    -Allied Telesys
    -Cisco
    -Edge-corE
    -Extreme Networks
    -HP
    -KTI/Katron
    -LevelOne
    -Linksys
    -Longshine
    -(Netgear)
    -SMC
    -TrendNet
    switches in the past. I would assume I'm quite open minded. But does this list tell you something?
    Once you use a CLI more often, you start build a preference with one brand and stick to that.

    I had a two day training on Edge-corE switches, which by itself was great. But it doesn't mean that I still use their gear.



  • I use the Ubiquiti EdgeSwitch 24 Lite at home, it's fanless but the SFP's only support 1gbit



  • enjoying the topic ..
    someone knows a switch 8ports 1GbE + 2ports  10GbE?

    thanks



  • @whitexp:

    someone knows a switch 8ports 1GbE + 2ports  10GbE?

    The smallest switch with 10Gb ports I currently know is from D-Link DGS-1510-20



  • @whitexp:

    enjoying the topic ..
    someone knows a switch 8ports 1GbE + 2ports  10GbE?

    thanks

    Netgear XS708E
    8 x 100/1000/10000 MBit/s  + 1 SFP+
    Netgear XS712T
    12 x 100/1000/10000 MBit/s  + 2 SFP+

    So you get GBit/s, GbE and SFP+ Ports as you want it.



  • One thing worth considering is the web configuration page of device. I am a big fan of the older Linksys-Cisco SG300 seriers but the fact that it requires Internet Explorer is a serious drawback. I have to keep an XP box just to administer them.

    Any reports on the D-Link DGS-1510 devices browser requirments? I like the specs on that device. Almost too good for the money!



  • Any reports on the D-Link DGS-1510 devices browser requirments? I like the specs on that device. Almost too good for the money!

    IE, Opera and Seamonkey are running well to administer the switch without no problems!


  • LAYER 8 Global Moderator

    "Cisco SG300 seriers but the fact that it requires Internet Explorer is a serious"

    Huh??  I have a sg300-10, and can just use the cli to admin them.. But sure if you want to use a gui, I use firefox 43.0.4 just fine with them - haven't used IE in quite some time on anything.  But I do have a old netgear gs108t that firefox is buggy with, and have to use IE for that.

    But the sg300 I have used firefox, chrome without any issues - but I don't know of anything you can not just do through the cli via ssh or telnet even.  And they even come with a console port you could use..



  • @jahonix:

    I'd tell you a joke about UDP, but I'm not sure you'd get it.

    I got it (good joke BTW) but I can't even let you know, convinced your SPI FW will drop my ACK  :P

    ;D ;D ;D



  • I was speaking about the Linksys SRW line which Cisco bought. It would only work with Internet Explorer. It became the SG300 Line.



  • @Phishfry:

    the Linksys SRW line which Cisco bought.

    Man, that's last millennium or so. You can't really compare those to current SG300, fortunately!
    I had one of those and they were horrible. The "CLI" was more like a click-through ASCII menu, nowhere could you use a command line.
    Linksys is now owned by Belkin and I don't know how much of the original SRW-code is still in the SG series. Can't be much.


  • LAYER 8 Global Moderator

    didn't those crappy SRW all go end of life like mid 2010 or something.. the SG line is nothing like those at all..  I think the confusion came with the SRW used as the model number SRW2008-K9-NA..



  • @BlueKobold:

    @whitexp:

    enjoying the topic ..
    someone knows a switch 8ports 1GbE + 2ports  10GbE?

    thanks

    Netgear XS708E
    8 x 100/1000/10000 MBit/s  + 1 SFP+
    Netgear XS712T
    12 x 100/1000/10000 MBit/s  + 2 SFP+

    So you get GBit/s, GbE and SFP+ Ports as you want it.

    wow , only with 1 SFP the price is very expensive  :-\



  • wow , only with 1 SFP the price is very expensive

    But on the other hand, you get what you asked for. And this are very strong and powerful switches
    that are not coming along with cheap chips inside! Switch is not only switch!!! You can get Layer3
    switches for 300 € and 3.500 € depending on your needs and your wishes.



  • @jahonix:

    @Phishfry:

    the Linksys SRW line which Cisco bought.

    Man, that's last millennium or so. You can't really compare those to current SG300, fortunately!
    I had one of those and they were horrible. The "CLI" was more like a click-through ASCII menu, nowhere could you use a command line.
    Linksys is now owned by Belkin and I don't know how much of the original SRW-code is still in the SG series. Can't be much.

    I have one of those. They have CLI, but not official. You telnet or ssh to the box, login and then press Ctrl-Z, then you enter lcli (login again) and have something that looks much like Cisco IOS:

    
    backbone# conf
    backbone(config)# int eth g1
    
    

    The Web Frontend indeed requires Internet Explorer (in compatibility mode) including (I think) ActiveX.



  • TP-Link smart switches also have cli, which looks very much like Cisco's IOS.



  • @BlueKobold:

    wow , only with 1 SFP the price is very expensive

    But on the other hand, you get what you asked for. And this are very strong and powerful switches
    that are not coming along with cheap chips inside! Switch is not only switch!!! You can get Layer3
    switches for 300 € and 3.500 € depending on your needs and your wishes.

    i looking for a "simple switch " with only 1 sfp  for put my server plex :)



  • @whitexp:

    wow , only with 1 SFP the price is very expensive  :-\

    Those (in the cited Netgear switches) are SFP+ ports (10Gb!). That's still expensive technology slowly reaching consumer price ranges.

    Did you look at the D-Link DGS-1510-20 mentioned before?



  • I'm liking those Ubiquiti Edge switches. Good looking with SFP+ option on the 48 port switch!
    http://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-Networks-EdgeSwitch-Managed-ES-48-LITE-US/dp/B013JDNN3K

    Good thread you guys have going here!

    I personally went and grabbed a Quanta LB4M off eBay because it was affordable and thought I'd toy with it and if it doesn't work out I'm not out much.
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Refurbished-Quanta-LB4M-10GB-Uplink-Switch-Dual-Power-Supplies-90-Day-Warranty-/171981132995?hash=item280adfd4c3:g:5wgAAOSwYIhWiuLZ

    But if that doesn't work out I'm seriously thinking I'll grab one of those Ubiquiti switches. I've come to enjoy their products.


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