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      Cleetus Antony @elvisimprsntr
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        Cleetus Antony @elvisimprsntr
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        @elvisimprsntr

        Did the same. I got below msg on output.
        Still the time is wrong.. Now 4 Hours 30 min difference.

        14 Jun 19:03:04 ntpdate[63408]: the NTP socket is in use, exiting

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          Cleetus Antony @elvisimprsntr
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          @elvisimprsntr
          14 Jun 19:14:57 ntpdate[69805]: no server suitable for synchronization found

          this is the result of second try

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            Cleetus Antony @elvisimprsntr
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            @elvisimprsntr
            "DNS Resolver is stopped or Disabled" when we chk the tatus of DNS Resolver.
            In the DNS Resolver page, the Enable DNS Resolver tick mark is ON
            May be NTP server setting is not resolving ??????
            DNS Resolution behavior is set as Default.(First use local and fall back to remote)

            DNS forwarder is ON and working.

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              Gertjan @Cleetus Antony
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              @Cleetus-Antony said in Pfsense Date & Time:

              DNS forwarder is ON and working.

              Then the NTP client can resolve.

              No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
              Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                Cleetus Antony @Gertjan
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                @Gertjan But no effect. Tried all the ways . Time is still 4 and half hour ahead.

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                  Cleetus Antony @Gertjan
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                  @Gertjan
                  14 Jun 19:14:57 ntpdate[69805]: no server suitable for synchronization found

                  This response means any issue with DNS ?

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                    Gertjan @Cleetus Antony
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                    @Cleetus-Antony

                    Noop.
                    A (the pfSense) NTP client syncs with an NTP server, typically an IP (and in that case : no DNS needed ;) ), a host name or even a pool.
                    It tells you it wasn't able to do so.

                    Example :
                    I'm in France, so I used a local NTP server pool :

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                    Because you should never 'type in stuff without checking, I've checked this "2.fr.pool.ntp.org" :

                    [24.03-RELEASE][root@pfSense.bhf.tld]/root: dig @127.0.0.1 2.fr.pool.ntp.org +short
                    195.154.226.102
                    149.91.80.92
                    91.224.149.41
                    82.64.81.218
                    

                    This tells me 3 things :
                    The pool is a pool, there are several IPs.
                    The 'host name' resolves to IPs.
                    And, bonus : my DNS works.

                    My 'NTP' is happy of course :

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                    Hummm : the status told me my check was wrong ....
                    Ok, again :

                    [24.03-RELEASE][root@pfSense.bhf.tld]/root: dig @127.0.0.1 2.fr.pool.ntp.org AAAA +short
                    2001:41d0:801:2000::acb
                    2001:41d0:304:200::6803
                    2603:1020:802:3::a8
                    2001:861:4080:81b1::3
                    

                    Also fine.

                    No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                    Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                      Cleetus Antony @Gertjan
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                      @Gertjan said in Pfsense Date & Time:

                      dig @127.0.0.1 2.fr.pool.ntp.org +short

                      Thank u for the info.
                      My NTP is sad.

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                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Cleetus Antony
                        last edited by johnpoz

                        @Cleetus-Antony well your never going to sync if you can not resolve anything in the pool name your using.

                        If you try and resolve that fqdn, what do you get back?

                        23.09.1-RELEASE][admin@sg4860.home.arpa]/root: dig 0.in.pool.ntp.org
                        
                        ; <<>> DiG 9.18.16 <<>> 0.in.pool.ntp.org
                        ;; global options: +cmd
                        ;; Got answer:
                        ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 21553
                        ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 4, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1
                        
                        ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
                        ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
                        ;; QUESTION SECTION:
                        ;0.in.pool.ntp.org.             IN      A
                        
                        ;; ANSWER SECTION:
                        0.in.pool.ntp.org.      3600    IN      A       157.245.102.2
                        0.in.pool.ntp.org.      3600    IN      A       162.159.200.123
                        0.in.pool.ntp.org.      3600    IN      A       162.159.200.1
                        0.in.pool.ntp.org.      3600    IN      A       95.216.192.15
                        
                        ;; Query time: 326 msec
                        ;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1) (UDP)
                        ;; WHEN: Fri Jun 14 07:54:50 CDT 2024
                        ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 110
                        

                        dns.jpg

                        Also you have 2 notifications I see up there the red bell with 2 next too it - those are normally things you should pay attention too, and quite often point out stuff that had an error, etc..

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                          Cleetus Antony @johnpoz
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                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Cleetus Antony
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                            @Cleetus-Antony ok well its resolving... So that is good.. Odd that ntp doesn't show that, I would think it would show the IPs it resolved and then if couldn't talk to them the reach would just be at zero, etc..

                            But yours is showing nothing, like it couldn't resolve what IPs are in the pool? Is that maybe a O vs a 0 (zero)?

                            You could try putting in say one of those IPs directly vs as a pool and see if it shows that IP.. And can it talk to it.. I would then sniff on your wan to validate its sending ntp, and maybe you just don't get an answer?

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                              Gertjan @Cleetus Antony
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                              @Cleetus-Antony

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                              Do you have a PC with a windows OS ? or any OS actually, as every device has a ntp client these days.
                              Get any of the IP's, and give it to your ntp windows client :

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                              and test it.

                              Still doesn't work ?
                              Start checking your upstream 'WAN' (ISP ?) connection. Some one might be filtering upstream.
                              You don't have any pfSense floating firewall rules, right ?

                              No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                              Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                                Cleetus Antony @Gertjan
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                                @Gertjan

                                I have no additional rules set. All default ones.
                                Before this ntp, I used pfsense default ntp settings. Stil the issue was same.

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                                  Cleetus Antony @Gertjan
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                                  @Gertjan

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                                  I put one of the ip into ntp. its not reaching.

                                  But from pfsense, its pinging.
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                                    Uglybrian
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                                    The firewall can notify administrators of important events and errors by displaying an alert in the menu bar, indicated by the bell icon. Out of cuirosity what are your notifications?

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                                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Cleetus Antony
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                                      @Cleetus-Antony pinging is different than ntp.. While ping is good that you can actually get there.. Doesn't mean its answering ntp, or that it even sees your ntp query..

                                      First thing is to actually validate your ntp query is leaving your wan, and has been natted to your IP.. If you see the query go out - and get no answer.. Not something pfsense can have any control over.. You would then need to look up stream if something is blocking, etc...

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                                        Cleetus Antony @Uglybrian
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                                        @Uglybrian

                                        Notifications was not related NTP.
                                        It was abt some user settings.

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                                          Cleetus Antony @johnpoz
                                          last edited by Cleetus Antony

                                          @johnpoz
                                          I checked with a windows client pc connected after the pfsense and configured the ntp 1.in.pool.ntp.org and synced the time. it does well. but the same ntp server is not reaching in pfsense... strange huh ?

                                          My pfsense is behind the FTTH modem/router in which 1.in.pool.ntp.org is configured and it does the job. So we can conclude that this ntp is not being blocked in upstream right ???

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                                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Cleetus Antony
                                            last edited by johnpoz

                                            @Cleetus-Antony said in Pfsense Date & Time:

                                            So we can conclude that this ntp is not being blocked in upstream right ???

                                            if your client can talk to it, yeah - but still doesn't validate pfsense is actually sending or natting the traffic.. Or that it likes the answer? A simple sniff would allow you to validate that it talks and gets an answer and what that answer actually was, etc.

                                            It takes all of a few seconds to do a sniff.. Longest part would be waiting for the timer of when ntp would resend, which is like 64 seconds.

                                            Also ntp 1.in.pool.ntp.org is not what you were showing you were using in pfsense.. You were using 0. Or the 1 specific IP, etc.

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