Netgate Discussion Forum
    • Categories
    • Recent
    • Tags
    • Popular
    • Users
    • Search
    • Register
    • Login

    userland calling deprecated sysctl, please rebuild world

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved General pfSense Questions
    25 Posts 4 Posters 1.9k Views
    Loading More Posts
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as topic
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • stephenw10S
      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
      last edited by

      There's no error shown in that log.

      You are loading additional modules if you see htcp available. What else are you loading?

      Do you have a /boot/loader.conf.local? What's in it?

      Steve

      johnpozJ I 2 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 0
      • johnpozJ
        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @stephenw10
        last edited by

        I'm on 21.05.1 and not seeing that available

        [21.05.1-RELEASE][admin@sg4860.local.lan]/root: sysctl net.inet.tcp.cc.available
        net.inet.tcp.cc.available: newreno
        [21.05.1-RELEASE][admin@sg4860.local.lan]/root: 
        

        An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools
        If you get confused: Listen to the Music Play
        Please don't Chat/PM me for help, unless mod related
        SG-4860 24.11 | Lab VMs 2.8, 24.11

        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
        • stephenw10S
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
          last edited by stephenw10

          Yup because in order to see that as an option you have to load the module:

          [2.5.2-RELEASE][admin@252dev.stevew.lan]/root: kldload cc_htcp
          [2.5.2-RELEASE][admin@252dev.stevew.lan]/root: sysctl net.inet.tcp.cc.available
          net.inet.tcp.cc.available: newreno, htcp
          

          It's not loaded by default because it's pointless for the vast majority of users.

          So OP is loading it via some custom loader variable which begs; what else is being loaded? ๐Ÿ˜‰

          Whatever it is it's probably generating that error. Which we've yet to see in context.

          Steve

          I 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
          • I
            itfsupport @stephenw10
            last edited by stephenw10

            @stephenw10 said in userland calling deprecated sysctl, please rebuild world:

            There's no error shown in that log.

            You are loading additional modules if you see htcp available. What else are you loading?

            Do you have a /boot/loader.conf.local? What's in it?

            Steve

            [2.5.2-RELEASE][root@vrouter-dc.itf.local]/root: sudo cat /boot/loader.conf.local
            aesni_load="YES"
            aio_load="YES"
            hw.vga.textmode=0
            kern.maxproc=100000
            kern.panic_reboot_wait_time=30
            kern.racct.enable=1
            # mem settings
            kern.dfldsiz=1099511627776
            kern.dflssiz=1099511627776
            kern.ipc.maxmbufmem=2034446336
            kern.ipc.msgmnb=65536
            kern.ipc.msgmni=32000
            kern.ipc.semmni=2048
            kern.ipc.semmns=32768
            kern.ipc.semmnu=32768
            kern.ipc.semmsl=256
            kern.ipc.semopm=500
            kern.ipc.shmmni=2048
            kern.ipc.shmseg=2048
            kern.maxdsiz=1099511627776
            kern.maxssiz=1099511627776
            vfs.maxbcachebuf=131072
            # net settings
            cc_htcp_load="YES"
            hw.em.rx_abs_int_delay=1000
            hw.em.rx_int_delay=100
            hw.em.rxd=4096
            hw.em.tx_abs_int_delay=1000
            hw.em.tx_int_delay=100
            hw.em.txd=4096
            net.graph.maxdata=65536
            net.graph.maxalloc=65536
            net.inet.tcp.hostcache.bucketlimit=100
            net.inet.tcp.hostcache.cachelimit=65536
            net.inet.tcp.hostcache.hashsize=4096
            net.inet.tcp.syncache.bucketlimit=100
            net.inet.tcp.syncache.cachelimit=65536
            net.inet.tcp.syncache.hashsize=1024
            net.inet.tcp.tcbhashsize=65536
            net.isr.bindthreads=1
            net.isr.defaultqlimit=4096
            net.isr.maxthreads=-1
            net.link.ifqmaxlen=2048
            [2.5.2-RELEASE][root@vrouter-dc.itf.local]/root:
            
            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
            • stephenw10S
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
              last edited by

              Ok.

              Why are you loading those things?

              One of those is causing your error.

              Steve

              I 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
              • I
                itfsupport @stephenw10
                last edited by

                @stephenw10
                Good day!
                What specific parameter from the boot/loader.conf.local confuses you?

                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                • I
                  itfsupport @stephenw10
                  last edited by itfsupport

                  @stephenw10 said in userland calling deprecated sysctl, please rebuild world:

                  Yup because in order to see that as an option you have to load the module:

                  [2.5.2-RELEASE][admin@252dev.stevew.lan]/root: kldload cc_htcp
                  [2.5.2-RELEASE][admin@252dev.stevew.lan]/root: sysctl net.inet.tcp.cc.available
                  net.inet.tcp.cc.available: newreno, htcp
                  

                  It's not loaded by default because it's pointless for the vast majority of users.

                  So OP is loading it via some custom loader variable which begs; what else us bring loaded? ๐Ÿ˜‰

                  Whatever it is it's probably generating that error. Which we've yet to see in context.

                  Steve

                  This information on tuning FreeBSD hosts connected at speeds of 1Gbps or higher.
                  FreeBSD supports TCP autotuning and advanced congestion control algorithms in all currently-supported releases. You can check which are available in the running kernel using:

                  sysctl net.inet.tcp.cc.available
                  To make additional algorithms available in the kernel, the appropriate module must be loaded. The congestion control modules are in /boot/kernel and begin with cc_ - they can be listed with the following command:

                  ls /boot/kernel/cc_* | grep -v symbols
                  To load a particular congestion control algorithm (for example htcp) you can use:

                  kldload cc_htcp
                  and you will then be able to set the congestion control algorithm using this:

                  sysctl net.inet.tcp.cc.algorithm=htcp

                  Enabling congestion control algorithms at boot time

                  Depending how your kernel is built, you may not have the algorithm you want available by default at boot time, and will need to load the driver during the boot process. To to this add the following to /boot/loader.conf:

                  cc_htcp_load="YES"
                  The htcp algorithm will then be loaded at boot time, and will be enabled when sysctl.conf is processed at boot time and the net.inet.tcp.cc.algorithm=htcp variable is set.

                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by

                    Right but a firewall/router is not a host. Almost all traffic passes through it and those TCP tunables apply to traffic terminated on the system.

                    Why have you added them? Were you seeing a problem? Did it help?

                    One of those is causing the error you are seeing. So if you want to not see it you need to stop applying that tunable.

                    Steve

                    I 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                    • provelsP
                      provels
                      last edited by

                      "Userland calling deprecated sysctl, please rebuild world"

                      ~ An anthem for Modern Man

                      Peder

                      MAIN - pfSense+ 24.11-RELEASE - Adlink MXE-5401, i7, 16 GB RAM, 64 GB SSD. 500 GB HDD for SyslogNG
                      BACKUP - pfSense+ 23.01-RELEASE - Hyper-V Virtual Machine, Gen 1, 2 v-CPUs, 3 GB RAM, 8GB VHDX (Dynamic)

                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                      • I
                        itfsupport @stephenw10
                        last edited by itfsupport

                        @stephenw10
                        Hello!
                        Now i delete all settings from boot/loader.conf.local
                        and i still have this error

                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                        • I
                          itfsupport
                          last edited by itfsupport

                          Now i reset boot.loader.conf.local and syscl.conf to default and i have error

                          userland calling deprecated sysctl, please rebuild world

                          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                            last edited by

                            You still have not shown us the log containing this error for context so we can only guess what is calling it. You must have something custom on that box.
                            To confirm you have removed the custom sysctls from Sys > Adv > System tunables?
                            sysctl.conf will just get rebuilt at boot.

                            Steve

                            I 2 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 0
                            • I
                              itfsupport @stephenw10
                              last edited by itfsupport

                              @stephenw10
                              sysctl.conf recovered after reboot
                              only this settings
                              kern.ipc.shmall=2097152
                              kern.ipc.shmmax=2147483648
                              kern.ipc.semmsl=250

                              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                              • I
                                itfsupport @stephenw10
                                last edited by itfsupport

                                @stephenw10
                                I don't really understand how to show you an error
                                There is a journal entry

                                Sep 26 23:17:21 pfSenseIllanM syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel
                                Sep 26 23:17:22 pfSenseIllanM nginx: 2021/09/26 23:17:22 [error] 71259#100112: send() failed (54: Connection reset by peer)
                                Sep 26 23:17:45 pfSenseIllanM kernel: userland calling deprecated sysctl, please rebuild world
                                Sep 26 23:17:45 pfSenseIllanM kernel: userland calling deprecated sysctl, please rebuild world
                                Sep 26 23:18:48 pfSenseIllanM kernel: userland calling deprecated sysctl, please rebuild world
                                Sep 26 23:18:48 pfSenseIllanM kernel: userland calling deprecated sysctl, please rebuild world
                                Sep 26 23:19:50 pfSenseIllanM kernel: userland calling deprecated sysctl, please rebuild world
                                Sep 26 23:19:50 pfSenseIllanM kernel: userland calling deprecated sysctl, please rebuild world

                                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                • stephenw10S
                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                  last edited by

                                  Ok, so it occurs multiple times and not just at boot? Some minutes apart?

                                  Does it log that continually?

                                  That's not a sysctl that is applied at boot then. You have something else on that system actively setting something that's no longer valid. Do you have something else running there? Some other custom script or manually added package?

                                  Steve

                                  I 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                  • I
                                    itfsupport @stephenw10
                                    last edited by

                                    @stephenw10 said in userland calling deprecated sysctl, please rebuild world:

                                    Ok, so it occurs multiple times and not just at boot? Some minutes apart?

                                    Does it log that continually?

                                    That's not a sysctl that is applied at boot then. You have something else on that system actively setting something that's no longer valid. Do you have something else running there? Some other custom script or manually added package?

                                    Steve

                                    Good day!
                                    After a long search for the error found the following.
                                    The problem appears when enable an additional parameter in the Zabbix agent settings

                                    EnableRemoteCommands=1

                                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                                    • stephenw10S
                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                      last edited by

                                      Nice find.

                                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                      • First post
                                        Last post
                                      Copyright 2025 Rubicon Communications LLC (Netgate). All rights reserved.