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    • JKnottJ
      JKnott @hmf
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      @hmf said in IPv6 and internal DNS registration:

      dhcpstaticipcoexistence

      I'm not sure that does what you think. It allows a static IP along with DHCP. However, you still need a prefix.

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        hmf @JKnott
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        @jknott

        Thanks to @jmore...

        If anyone should happen upon this thread, the answer has to do with the fact that my 'NIC' is a team (LAG), and Windows does not set the right defaults. Here's what worked:

        netsh interface ipv6 set interface "8" dhcpstaticipcoexistence=enabled
        set-netipinterface -interfaceindex 8 -addressfamily ipv6 -dhcp enabled

        This allowed me to assign a fixed IP in the GUI and tell the team to get a global address.

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        • JKnottJ
          JKnott @hmf
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          @hmf

          I thought your concern was the prefix could change. How does that fix that? Any static address has to be within whatever the prefix is. With ULA, to set your own prefix that has nothing to do with your ISP. I have ULA running hear and use it for local LAN connections, even though public addresses are also available.

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            hmf @JKnott
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            @jknott

            This works because I assign ULAs to the servers, pass those out from the NetSense DHCPv6 as the address for services (DNS, NTP), and then issue the commands above, which causes the machines to also acquire global addresses from the NetSense DHCPv6.

            My problem, as I said above, was that I didn’t know how to get the machines to do both static and DHCP. I wonder whether this just works normally, just not for LAG interfaces, in Windows.

            Anyway, the machines now do the right thing if the delegation changes; when their leases expire, they get new global addresses via DHCP and eventually forget about the old prefix.

            Thanks for your help!

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            • Jim-bob-the-grandJ
              Jim-bob-the-grand @hmf
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              @hmf

              This is what I ended up doing, I have a delegated /64 to the LAN and have a DNS server in my network with a static assigned fd00 address.
              Under: Services/ DHCPv6 Server & RA / LAN / DHCPv6 Server
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              Under: Services/ DHCPv6 Server & RA / LAN / Router Advertisements
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              My clients get both public routable and ULA address, they resolve DNS on the ULA. It all seems to work, but I still don't get any dynamic way of knowing what the clients IPs are at any time like you do with IPv4s DHCP DNS registration =(

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              • JKnottJ
                JKnott @hmf
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                @hmf

                If you enable ULA, as I suggested, and use SLAAC, then the addresses will be static,

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                • Jim-bob-the-grandJ
                  Jim-bob-the-grand @JKnott
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                  @jknott

                  Static client devices doesn't solve the issue I have. I would still need to make manual DNS entries for devices.

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                  • JKnottJ
                    JKnott @Jim-bob-the-grand
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                    @jim-bob-the-grand

                    Perhaps I'm missing something. I thought you needed a stable DNS address, but your ISP doesn't provide a stable prefix. Is that correct? Assuming your DNS is for the local LAN only, then ULA will do everything you want. In addition to the prefix from your ISP, you create another with ULA. Every device on your LAN will then have both ULA and GUA addresses. By using the ULA to reach the DNS server, you will have everything you need, regardless of whether the ISP provides a stable prefix. If you want the DNS to be reachable from elsewhere, then you'll need a stable prefix.

                    Here's what's in resolv.conf on my computer:

                    nameserver fd48:1a37:2160:0:4262:31ff:fe12:b66c
                    nameserver 2001:4860:4860::8888
                    nameserver 8.8.8.8

                    The first line is the ULA address for pfsense. The other 2 lines are for Google's DNS servers.

                    Here's all I had to add on the RA page:

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                    It's as simple as that. Do it right, do it once.

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                    • Bob.DigB
                      Bob.Dig LAYER 8 @JKnott
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                      @jknott said in IPv6 and internal DNS registration:

                      Every device on your LAN will then have both ULA and GUA addresses.

                      But remember you will need to use VIP for that. 😉

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                        hmf @Jim-bob-the-grand
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                        @jim-bob-the-grand I did exactly (except for a different fd:: fixed address) the same thing. Once I convinced the Windows Server’s (LAG/team) NIC to acquire a global address from DHCP, it worked fine.

                        I still have the other problem that I hinted at above, but didn’t mention here because… Windows. The Windows Server that runs my DNS throws errors because it does not like the DNS registration being done by pfsense. It complains, but then repairs the registration.

                        I don’t suppose you have Windows Server expertise or that there is a solution to this. Windows is famous for stuffing the logs with unavoidable errors that obscure other important error reports. :-(

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                          hmf @Bob.Dig
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                          @bob-dig Could you give a n00b-teachable version of this comment? How do you create a “VIP for that” plus example?

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                            Bob.Dig LAYER 8 @hmf
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                            @hmf If you want ULA and GUA on the same interface.

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                            • JKnottJ
                              JKnott @Bob.Dig
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                              @bob-dig said in IPv6 and internal DNS registration:

                              But remember you will need to use VIP for that.

                              No, you just enable it on the RA page and it will work automagically.
                              As soon as you create the 2nd prefix, there will be router advertisements for it and all devices will have ULA addresses, in addition to GUA.

                              Correction, you still have to use a VIP on pfsense, but you don't have to manually add an address elsewhere.

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                              • JKnottJ
                                JKnott @hmf
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                                @hmf

                                No need, if you set up ULA the way I described.

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                                • JKnottJ
                                  JKnott @Bob.Dig
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                                  @bob-dig said in IPv6 and internal DNS registration:

                                  If you want ULA and GUA on the same interface.

                                  Is there a problem with that? IPv6 was designed to have multiple addresses and prefixes on an interface. It just works. In fact, you could add multiple ULA prefixes to a LAN, though I don't know why you'd do that.

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                                    hmf @JKnott
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                                    @jknott Don’t want to put words in @Bob-Dig ’s mouth, but my problem was that the GUI for the DNS server allows an exclusive choice (‘xor’) between DHCP and ULA configuration; I had to learn about the command-line to enable both.

                                    I have a question about your POV, though. I used DHCP on the appliance so that it would publish several options on the domain (including the ULA of the DNS that caused the original problem). Are you saying that the RA/SLAAC solution accomplishes this and is preferable to or better than the DHCP/ULA solution for some reason?

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                                    • JKnottJ
                                      JKnott @hmf
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                                      @hmf

                                      A the stuff that's provided by DHCP is provided by the router advertisements, including RDNSS, which contains the DNS server address. One disadvantage with DHCPv6 is it doesn't work with Android devices, because some genius at Google didn't want to support it.

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                                      • JKnottJ
                                        JKnott @hmf
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                                        @hmf said in IPv6 and internal DNS registration:

                                        but my problem was that the GUI for the DNS server allows an exclusive choice (‘xor’) between DHCP and ULA configuration; I had to learn about the command-line to enable both

                                        I don't have DHCPv6 enabled on my network, but DHCPv6 server and RA are 2 separate pages in the config. Does it actually prevent you from adding an additional prefix on the RA page when a DHCPv6 server is enabled? You always have router advertisements, no matter what. Also, if you have Android devices, you do not want to run DHCPv6.

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                                          hmf @JKnott
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                                          @jknott Oh, help...

                                          I just upgraded by 6100 appliance and things stopped working again! Now, instead of RA just publishing the DNS ULA (fd...) it is using the IPv6 alias as the source for the network prefix instead of the PD prefix. Now none of the hosts are on the internet unless I remove the alias and exclusively use DNS / IPv4.

                                          How do I get it to publish the PD prefix for SLAAC and the ULA for DNS again?

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                                          • JKnottJ
                                            JKnott @hmf
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                                            @hmf

                                            First off, do you still have DHCPv6 enabled on the LAN? If so, get rid of it. The DNS server address is supposed to be the host address for pfsense, unless you've changed it. That would be done in the DNS Configuration on the Router Advertisement page. Those 3 boxes should be empty. Are they?

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