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Using BBR2, QUIC, RACK Congestion Control (CC) protocols in pfSense

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    Sergei_Shablovsky
    last edited by Nov 7, 2021, 9:15 AM

    Good News!

    HowTo enable BBR in FreeBSD

    Anyway, only CDG CC is better than any other in pfSense / FreeBSD 12.2... (and this list THE SAME AT LEAST 8+ YEARS!!!!)

    ls -l /boot/kernel/cc_*
    
    /boot/kernel/cc_cdg.ko
    /boot/kernel/cc_chd.ko
    /boot/kernel/cc_cubic.ko
    /boot/kernel/cc_dctcp.ko
    /boot/kernel/cc_hd.ko
    /boot/kernel/cc_htcp.ko
    /boot/kernel/cc_vegas.ko
    

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      Sergei_Shablovsky
      last edited by Nov 7, 2021, 9:51 AM

      A little bit of importance of modern CC algorithms:

      HTTP/3: the past, the present, and the future

      Enjoy a slice of QUIC, and Rust!

      The QUICening

      how CloudFlare support modern protocols Understanding Cloudflare HTTP/2 and HTTP/3 Support

      Using the FreeBSD RACK TCP Stack

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        viktor_g Netgate @Sergei_Shablovsky
        last edited by Nov 12, 2021, 8:53 AM

        @sergei_shablovsky
        You can create a feature request:
        https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/development/feature-requests.html

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          Sergei_Shablovsky @viktor_g
          last edited by Sergei_Shablovsky Nov 12, 2021, 9:26 AM Nov 12, 2021, 9:24 AM

          @viktor_g said in Using BBR2, QUIC, RACK Congestion Control (CC) protocols in pfSense:

          @sergei_shablovsky
          You can create a feature request:
          https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/development/feature-requests.html

          Thank You for help.

          After some declined requests, I am become to a little skeptics about reasonable (on my opinion) features added to pfSense.
          But slowly industry pressure make this for me :) Just a little waiting...

          BTW, I am a newbie in FreeBSD, so is possible to recompile pfSense CE code with ALL THREE options?
          Or, because the modification of TCP/UDP stack are deeply underground, we able to choose only one of them (mean BBR2/BBR or QUIC or RACK) ?

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            w0w @Sergei_Shablovsky
            last edited by Nov 12, 2021, 8:04 PM

            @sergei_shablovsky
            I think it's a good idea to create a feature request now. At least it will be traceable.

            About recompiling... since FreeBSD 13 uses a lot of new code it is definitely takes some time to make everything work even at Netgate level. I am not newbie in FreeBSD but compiling an own version of pfSense is beyond my capabilities.

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              Sergei_Shablovsky @viktor_g
              last edited by Nov 13, 2021, 3:16 AM

              @viktor_g said in Using BBR2, QUIC, RACK Congestion Control (CC) protocols in pfSense:

              @sergei_shablovsky
              You can create a feature request:
              https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/development/feature-requests.html

              Just done.

              BTW, I love the pfSense and would be happy if pfSense's product would be best on the market, and of course have all needed features on our “mobile devices world” era.
              And not sitting with cubic next 7+ years and waiting...

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                w0w @Sergei_Shablovsky
                last edited by Nov 13, 2021, 8:45 AM

                @sergei_shablovsky
                Are you sure that https://www.reddit.com/r/PFSENSE/comments/ajs0qy/quic_protocol/ is really useful? ;)

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                  Sergei_Shablovsky @w0w
                  last edited by Sergei_Shablovsky Nov 14, 2021, 3:17 AM Nov 14, 2021, 3:16 AM

                  @w0w said in Using BBR2, QUIC, RACK Congestion Control (CC) protocols in pfSense:

                  @sergei_shablovsky
                  Are you sure that https://www.reddit.com/r/PFSENSE/comments/ajs0qy/quic_protocol/ is really useful? ;)
                  On what You skeptics based on?

                  At the first: I Googling about negative experience with this method and find no any. Please point me to if I am wrong.

                  I have no such knowledge right now to recompile FreeBSD or pfSense CE with QUIC support, so may be someone doing this and give me results for testing?

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                    w0w @Sergei_Shablovsky
                    last edited by Nov 20, 2021, 6:41 AM

                    @sergei_shablovsky
                    You can try to post you request at https://forum.netgate.com/category/30/bounties
                    I would invest too.

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                      Sergei_Shablovsky
                      last edited by Sergei_Shablovsky Dec 13, 2021, 12:31 PM Dec 13, 2021, 12:30 PM

                      Recently has a time to read more about BBR implementation progress. Very impressive. Just take a look on graphics “quick vs bbr”

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                        Sergei_Shablovsky
                        last edited by Dec 17, 2023, 3:04 PM

                        Is any news about enabling QUIC in pfSense CE at the end of 2023?

                        Because around 90% of traffic in the world come to/from mobile gadgets, but we still using old congestion protocols in pfSense (even QUIC available in FreeBSD in that pfSense based, since several years…)

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