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    • peteP
      pete @pete
      last edited by

      ***If you see GN messages , it seems that your receiver is configures for Multi GNSS (aka multiple GPS systems , GPS, GLONAS , Beidu , Galileo).

      Try to switch it to GPS "Only" ,and you should see GP messages***

      Yes only see GN messages. Where in the config do I change it to GPS only?

      • Pete

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      • bingo600B
        bingo600 @pete
        last edited by

        @pete

        uCenter

        f4e1ccb8-e96d-43b6-9a00-ee374a697ce2-image.png

        Will prob. also reveal if it's a true Ublox or a clone

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        • peteP
          pete @bingo600
          last edited by

          @bingo600

          Thank you very much. Messages now have changed.

          GPS1.jpg

          Will change this to be same as yours.

          Output info:
          17:27:00 $GPTXT,01,01,02,u-blox AG - www.u-blox.com50
          17:27:00 $GPTXT,01,01,02,HW UBX-M8030 00080000
          7E
          17:27:00 $GPTXT,01,01,02,EXT CORE 3.01 (107900)2D
          17:27:00 $GPTXT,01,01,02,ROM BASE 2.01 (75331)07
          17:27:00 $GPTXT,01,01,02,FWVER=SPG 3.01
          58
          17:27:00 $GPTXT,01,01,02,PROTVER=18.00
          0F
          17:27:00 $GPTXT,01,01,02,MOD=NEO-M8N-079
          17:27:00 $GPTXT,01,01,02,FIS=0xEF4015 (100111)46
          17:27:00 $GPTXT,01,01,02,GPS;GLO;GAL;BDS
          69
          17:27:00 $GPTXT,01,01,02,SBAS;IMES;QZSS
          57
          17:27:00 $GPTXT,01,01,02,GNSS OTP=GPS;GLO29
          17:27:00 $GPTXT,01,01,02,LLC=FFFFFFFF-FFFFFFED-FFFFFFFF-FFFFFFFF-FFFFFF69
          3D
          17:27:00 $GPTXT,01,01,02,ANTSUPERV=AC SD PDoS SR20
          17:27:00 $GPTXT,01,01,02,ANTSTATUS=INIT
          25
          17:27:00 $GPTXT,01,01,02,PF=3FF*55

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          • bingo600B
            bingo600 @pete
            last edited by bingo600

            @pete

            That answer actually looks like it could be a real Ublox šŸ‘

            Only configure/enable GPS

            It's NOT advisable anyway to have multi GNSS in a timing oriented setup.

            /Bingo

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            • peteP
              pete @bingo600
              last edited by

              @bingo600

              Thank you for helping me today with this endeavor!!!

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              • bingo600B
                bingo600 @pete
                last edited by

                @pete
                Does that mean you got it to work ?

                /Bingo

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                • peteP
                  pete @bingo600
                  last edited by

                  @bingo600

                  Yes all of the U-Blox GPS modules working except for one.

                  One U-Blox GPS module doesn't save the settings after powering it off. Thinking it is that little button battery on it. It is about 5 years old now. Maybe a touch of my soldering gun will remove it?

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                  • peteP
                    pete
                    last edited by

                    @bingo600

                    Unrelated to OP ....here using a 8 drive NAS SAS ZFS pool (Xigmanas) and running out of space.

                    Wanting to upgrade (doubling size) one drive at a time.

                    Can I shut down one drive, have it resilver and then replace and expand the drive?

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                    • bingo600B
                      bingo600 @pete
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                      @pete
                      I have no experience with NAS , sorry

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                      • peteP
                        pete
                        last edited by pete

                        Now seeing the following in the NTP logs on both boxes. One with the SureGPS (new box) and the other with the UBlox GPS...

                        Dec 31 10:51:34	ntpd	19356	kernel reports TIME_ERROR: 0x2307: PPS Time Sync wanted but PPS Jitter exceeded
                        Dec 31 10:47:34	ntpd	19356	kernel reports TIME_ERROR: 0x2307: PPS Time Sync wanted but PPS Jitter exceeded
                        Dec 31 10:36:22	ntpd	19356	kernel reports TIME_ERROR: 0x2307: PPS Time Sync wanted but PPS Jitter exceeded
                        Dec 31 10:31:50	ntpd	19356	kernel reports TIME_ERROR: 0x2307: PPS Time Sync wanted but PPS Jitter exceeded
                        Dec 31 10:06:14	ntpd	19356	kernel reports TIME_ERROR: 0x2307: PPS Time Sync wanted but PPS Jitter exceeded
                        Dec 31 09:57:58	ntpd	19356	kernel reports TIME_ERROR: 0x2307: PPS Time Sync wanted but PPS Jitter exceeded
                        Dec 31 09:40:06	ntpd	19356	kernel reports TIME_ERROR: 0x2307: PPS Time Sync wanted but PPS Jitter exceeded
                        Dec 31 09:35:02	ntpd	19356	kernel reports TIME_ERROR: 0x2307: PPS Time Sync wanted but PPS Jitter exceeded
                        Dec 31 09:32:38	ntpd	19356	kernel reports TIME_ERROR: 0x2307: PPS Time Sync wanted but PPS Jitter exceeded
                        Dec 31 09:27:50	ntpd	19356	kernel reports TIME_ERROR: 0x2307: PPS Time Sync wanted but PPS Jitter exceeded
                        

                        On the NTP status page looks good...

                        Computer with Sure GPS

                        PPS Peer	127.127.20.0	.GPS.	0	l	8	16	377	0.000	-0.006	0.003
                        
                        ntpq -p
                             remote           refid      st t when poll reach   delay   offset  jitter
                        ==============================================================================
                        oGPS_NMEA(0)     .GPS.            0 l   15   16  377    0.000   -0.012   0.001
                         time-d-g.nist.g .POOL.          16 p    -   64    0    0.000   +0.000   0.000
                         0.pool.ntp.org  .POOL.          16 p    -   64    0    0.000   +0.000   0.000
                         2610:20:6f15:15 .POOL.          16 p    -   64    0    0.000   +0.000   0.000
                         0.ubuntu.pool.n .POOL.          16 p    -   64    0    0.000   +0.000   0.000
                         0.pfsense.pool. .POOL.          16 p    -   64    0    0.000   +0.000   0.000
                        +time-d-g.nist.g .NIST.           1 u   31   64  377   34.472   +3.546   1.306
                        *ntp2.wiktel.com .GPS.            1 u   26   64  377   29.702   +3.131   1.278
                        +time-d-g.nist.g .NIST.           1 u   53   64  377   34.859   +2.847   1.668
                        
                        ntpq -c rv
                        associd=0 status=043d leap_none, sync_uhf_radio, 3 events, kern,
                        version="ntpd 4.2.8p15@1.3728-o Fri Feb  5 22:07:56 UTC 2021 (1)",
                        processor="amd64", system="FreeBSD/12.2-STABLE", leap=00, stratum=1,
                        precision=-24, rootdelay=0.000, rootdisp=1.015, refid=GPS,
                        reftime=e579b796.df8aca69  Fri, Dec 31 2021 11:08:38.873,
                        clock=e579b798.9b3b4c7a  Fri, Dec 31 2021 11:08:40.606, peer=1700, tc=4,
                        mintc=3, offset=-0.002700, frequency=-6.038, sys_jitter=0.003059,
                        clk_jitter=0.001, clk_wander=0.003
                        

                        Computer with U-Blox GPS

                        PPS Peer	127.127.20.0	.gps.	0	l	6	16	377	0.000	-0.001	0.000
                        
                        ntpq -p
                             remote           refid      st t when poll reach   delay   offset  jitter
                        ==============================================================================
                        oGPS_NMEA(0)     .gps.            0 l    3   16  377    0.000   +0.000   0.001
                         time-d-g.nist.g .POOL.          16 p    -   64    0    0.000   +0.000   0.000
                         0.pool.ntp.org  .POOL.          16 p    -   64    0    0.000   +0.000   0.000
                         0.ubuntu.pool.n .POOL.          16 p    -   64    0    0.000   +0.000   0.000
                         0.pfsense.pool. .POOL.          16 p    -   64    0    0.000   +0.000   0.000
                        *time-d-g.nist.g .NIST.           1 u   40   64  377   35.688   +3.124   1.447
                        +time-d-g.nist.g .NIST.           1 u    9   64  377   35.765   +2.721   1.666
                        +time.nullrouten 132.163.97.1     2 u   54   64  377   59.810   +3.261   0.899
                        
                        ntpq -c rv
                        associd=0 status=041d leap_none, sync_uhf_radio, 1 event, kern,
                        version="ntpd 4.2.8p15@1.3728-o Wed Mar 10 18:50:10 UTC 2021 (1)",
                        processor="amd64", system="FreeBSD/12.2-STABLE", leap=00, stratum=1,
                        precision=-21, rootdelay=0.000, rootdisp=1.120, refid=gps,
                        reftime=e579b6c4.00030c50  Fri, Dec 31 2021 11:05:08.000,
                        clock=e579b6cc.a1a5c47b  Fri, Dec 31 2021 11:05:16.631, peer=41531, tc=4,
                        mintc=3, offset=+0.001608, frequency=-43.364, sys_jitter=0.000807,
                        clk_jitter=0.002, clk_wander=0.001
                        
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