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    • wgstarksW
      wgstarks @johnpoz
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      @johnpoz
      You make a good point. The POE switch will be used exclusively for devices all in the same VLAN initially but at some point I’ll probably want to get rid of the injectors I’m using for my Unifi APs (and one raspberrypi) and add them to the switch instead. Better to do this right from the start. I’ll probably see what Mikrotik has to offer in an 8 or 10 port POE switch since I’m already using SwitchOS for my primary switch.

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      • wgstarksW
        wgstarks @bingo600
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        @bingo600
        Thanks. If I go with a switch in this price range I’ll probably stick with Mikrotik since that’s what I’m already using.

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        • wgstarksW
          wgstarks
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          Or maybe I won’t go with Mikrotik. Really don’t want or need RouterOS.

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          • johnpozJ
            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @wgstarks
            last edited by johnpoz

            @wgstarks what are are you specific poe wants? poe, poe+, poe++ version 3 or 4? What sort of power capacity? 60W, 100W, etc..

            To be honest, while poe switches are cool and all. If budget is of real concern, unless you have a lot of poe devices its just easier to use the injectors.. Adding poe to a switch normally is a significant cost bump.. So unless your wanting to connect 4 or 5 poe devices off the same switch and don't want the mess of all those injectors.. Just using the injectors is cheaper for sure.

            Don't get me wrong poe can be slick and cool and can provide some functionality, like ability to power cycle devices without having to actually touch anything ;) And also quite often provide info like how much power is being drawn.. So there are for sure advantages.. But with almost anything, more features/abilities corresponds to higher price ;)

            edit:
            Just for sake of discussion - why I don't run poe switch.. So I have 2 poe AP hanging off my core switch. So for me to get rid of the injectors I could either add a poe switch.. So ok I get rid of 2 injectors.. But now I have another switch hanging off my core switch.. Does it save me any space, does it look better? Not really ;) And now since this is a downstream switch, my 2 AP are going to have to share the uplink, so verse both having gig into the core switch, they would have to share the 1 gig uplink, unless I took another port off my core switch and setup lacp or different uplinks for different vlans, etc. I don't see that being worth cost of getting a new switch, and sure not worth the cost of getting a new core switch that supports poe at my 28 port density... Now when I get a new switch, I might look to getting one that supports poe and if not too crazy priced do it then.

            My second switch is in my av cabinet - and its a very full featured sg300-10.. I only have the 1 poe AP hanging off that switch. Do I get a poe switch to add there? Do I replace the switch there with a poe switch, is it going to be as full featured as current switch without being too expensive? Why the switch and injector are hidden in a cabinet ;)

            Now what do I do with that switch, I really have no use of another switch.. It would be spending money for really just spending money and not getting much of anything..

            You for sure need to do what makes sense to you.. And fits in your budget.. And for sure if I was in the market for a new switch, I would want poe support as long as not crazy difference in price for features I want without poe, etc. My new dream switch would be full multi-gig 2.5/5/10 atleast on a few ports, same or more features than my current switch.. And sure support every type of poe there is ;) But if I had to choose over multigig ports or poe, multigig would win for sure..

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            • wgstarksW
              wgstarks @johnpoz
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              @johnpoz
              I guess really my biggest reason for a Poe switch is getting rid of all the injectors. They’re starting to take up more and more space.

              Reolink specs show the cameras at <12 watts but I would probably still go with POE+ and perhaps 75 watts available. Active POE sounds good but I don’t have enough experience with POE to know if it’s really needed or not?

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              • johnpozJ
                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @wgstarks
                last edited by johnpoz

                @wgstarks biggest thing is knowing what poe your cameras need.. at or af, passive, etc. etc.. unless they are really new I would not expect them to use bt (poe++)

                How many cameras do you have? Are you planning on adding more anytime in the near future?

                edit: poe can for sure trim down a mess of connections and power plug requirements that is for sure.. If I had want to add cameras into my network.. yeah poe would be much higher priority than my current needs.. I keep toying with the idea, and I got a camera to play with to see what kind of bandwidth, and storage would be used, etc. Just not sure makes much sense for the cost - yeah they are all the rage and all.. Just not sure cost/setup/maint justifies the benefit.. I haven't needed or wished I had a video of something that happened ever ;) Well other than this one time guy had a car indecent in front of my house - I and would of been cool if I had a video to help him out..

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                • wgstarksW
                  wgstarks @johnpoz
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                  @johnpoz
                  Right now I’m installing 2 Reolink RLC-410-5MP cameras. The Reolink support website states that all Reolink cameras are IEEE 802.3AF/48 volt Active and that this model has a power draw <10 watts.

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                  • wgstarksW
                    wgstarks
                    last edited by

                    Might just make more sense to go with something like a 4 port injector? I know POE Texas makes one.
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                    • johnpozJ
                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @wgstarks
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                      @wgstarks Yeah that falls under your 100 budget ;)

                      Switch would be "cooler" but whatever gets the job done..

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                      • wgstarksW
                        wgstarks
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                        Will an 802.3at injector support an 802.3af camera?

                        Was thinking about getting the at version of the injector so I could add my Ubiquiti APs to it. I think they are 802.3at.

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