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      A Former User
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      traffic in wan

      What is this traffic due to? it's normal everything seems to be fine.

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        A Former User @A Former User
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        @Gertjan, It can help me to get out of doubt ...

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          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @A Former User
          last edited by johnpoz

          @silence are you asking about the traffic to port 31599?

          Are those SYN blocks or SA or A or FA? Its it UDP?

          Looks like your trying to talk to that 31.13.71.1 IP on 443 through a vpn? And its sending back the answer to your wan IP through a natted system infront of pfsense?

          Really need a bit more info..

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          • GertjanG
            Gertjan @A Former User
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            @silence

            whois 31.13.71.1 | grep 'name'
            

            Facebook wants more information from you, so they try to contact you on port 31599.
            Pick up the line and see what they want ?

            157.240.241.60 is also facebook ....

            Your WAN IP is RFC1918, so you have an upstream ISP router ?
            If so, you were a bit lazy, and activated the DMZ of that router ? I mean : all entering WAN traffic is redirected to the WAN IP of pfSense, 192.168.1.254 ?
            If you use the pfSense OpenVPN server on port 443 TCP, then create a NAT rule for that port/TCP to the WAN IP of pfSense. The traffic will probably still hit the WAN side of the ISP router "but you won't see it any more" - except the VPN port traffic ;)

            And call facebook, see what they want.

            No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
            Edit : and where are the logs ??

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              A Former User @johnpoz
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              @johnpoz said in traffic in wan:

              are you asking about the traffic to port 31599?

              yes

              @gertjan said in traffic in wan:

              Your WAN IP is RFC1918, so you have an upstream ISP router ?

              yes

              @gertjan said in traffic in wan:

              If so, you were a bit lazy, and activated the DMZ of that router ?

              NO DMZ

              @gertjan said in traffic in wan:

              If you use the pfSense OpenVPN server on port 443 TCP

              NO

              @Gertjan @johnpoz

              To confirm, my vpn client does not have any problem, they can access facebook and whatsapp or any other web site without any problem.

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                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @A Former User
                last edited by johnpoz

                @silence Dude is that UDP is it SYN, is SA, what is that traffic... Can not tell if this unsolicited inbound or an answer to something that is out of state.

                Go into the full firewall log other than the widget..

                block.jpg

                So can see what rule blocked that, and also what protocol and state.

                It just seems really odd to me that you have a connection you allowed to that IP on https port (443) on your vpn interface. But that is a server connection not a client connection. So if I had to guess that was an inbound connection from that 72 address to your 31.13 address listening on 443..

                If you use the pfSense OpenVPN server on port 443 TCP

                That a vpn SERVER.. see the s2 on the end.. That is server, client (ie you talk to some service) would be cX

                example..

                See my client instance, and my 2 server instances..

                cs.jpg

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                  A Former User @johnpoz
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                  @johnpoz said in traffic in wan:

                  Go into the full firewall log other than the widget..

                  d31ac30d-ca64-434a-981d-ab3e363a9395-image.png

                  First registration of the same IP today

                  Note: I deleted the old records for other reasons.

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                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @A Former User
                    last edited by johnpoz

                    @silence what is that rule, that is not the default rule..

                    So that is inbound traffic to your pfsense IP 192.168.1.254, from that 443 port.. Source of 443 is odd as source port, would be more like an answer to something you requested..

                    QUIC uses UDP over 443..

                    https://peering.google.com/#/learn-more/quic

                    So I would guess that is some answer to something you requested on that 31 IP. But its blocked because there is no state for that traffic.

                    edit: seems facebook is playing with quic
                    https://engineering.fb.com/2020/10/21/networking-traffic/how-facebook-is-bringing-quic-to-billions/

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                    • ?
                      A Former User @johnpoz
                      last edited by

                      @johnpoz, The question is?

                      is this a problem or is it normal?

                      since my vpn client have no problem using facebook or any other apps.

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                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @A Former User
                        last edited by johnpoz

                        @silence It seems odd that if you were using facebook app or website through your vpn that you would be seeing traffic to your wan interface. From IP y our talking to through the vpn.

                        So something is not quite right. If you were flowing outbound through a vpn.. How would it know your actual wan IP?

                        But then again not sure how you have your vpn setup, that sure looks like a server interface in your first log, but if you were using a vpn service it should be a client interface cX..

                        Without more details of your setup, and what your doing with facebook its hard to tell what is actually going on.

                        But that IP is for sure a facebook IP.

                        ;; ANSWER SECTION:
                        1.71.13.31.in-addr.arpa. 3600   IN      PTR     edge-star-shv-01-lga3.facebook.com.
                        

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                          A Former User @johnpoz
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                          @johnpoz, I always see the same sequence ...

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                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @A Former User
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                            @silence So how would you be sending traffic from that 72 IP to 31, and then 31 through some server connection, and then getting an answer back on pfsense wan.

                            How do you have your vpn setup... If you were using some vpn service, that would be a client setup in pfsense. Do you have some site 2 site setup with some server elsewhere?

                            If your flowing through a vpn, how would facebook know your wan IP to even send anything? Something in their client reporting something?

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                              A Former User @johnpoz
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                              @johnpoz https: //files. fm/u/7kcgvm8ag#/view/xjswpx877

                              Setting OPENVPN

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                                A Former User @johnpoz
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                                @johnpoz said in traffic in wan:

                                So how would you be sending traffic from that 72 IP to 31, and then 31 through some server connection, and then getting an answer back on pfsense wan.

                                This is what I am trying to find out, what is really going on?

                                because everything seems to work 100%

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                                  A Former User @Gertjan
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                                  @gertjan @johnpoz Any suggestion?

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                                  • GertjanG
                                    Gertjan @A Former User
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                                    @silence said in traffic in wan:

                                    NO DMZ

                                    Then how passes this traffic "destination port 31599" through your ISP router ?
                                    No NAT rules on that router ?

                                    @silence said in traffic in wan:

                                    Any suggestion?

                                    Yep, a suggestion - not a solution.

                                    First things first : Status > System Logs > Settings :
                                    Uncheck :
                                    97bbdfc3-a405-46ef-8434-c29374eb6689-image.png

                                    Rules on your WAN interface : don't make them log.

                                    And enjoy the silence ^^

                                    @johnpoz said in traffic in wan:

                                    seems facebook is playing

                                    My advise : refuse their 'games' ;)

                                    No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                                    Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                                      A Former User @Gertjan
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                                      @gertjan said in traffic in wan:

                                      Uncheck :

                                      e50b9be6-441b-41bd-85db-edce62f0595e-image.png

                                      They were always like this.

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                                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @A Former User
                                        last edited by johnpoz

                                        @silence no they weren't, the default is all checked except the default pass.

                                        I have setup pfsense countless times.. And here this is a default VM setup not that long ago..

                                        default.jpg

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                                          A Former User @johnpoz
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                                          @johnpoz said in traffic in wan:

                                          @silence no they weren't, the default is all checked except the default pass.

                                          I think they are not understanding me,

                                          first: from the beginning of the installation uncheck these options

                                          second: I think they are straying a bit from the main question!

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                                            A Former User @Gertjan
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                                            @gertjan said in traffic in wan:

                                            My advise : refuse their 'games' ;)

                                            @johnpoz dice

                                            @gertjan said in traffic in wan:

                                            seems facebook is playing

                                            I don't understand what you mean by which facebook is playing?

                                            I'm just trying to come to the conclusion!

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