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      LukeCage
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      new screenshots

      tnsr
      https://prnt.sc/26d8kk1

      mikrotik
      https://prnt.sc/26d8knp

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      • johnpozJ
        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @LukeCage
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        @lukecage still not seeing anything here other than a 2 watch problem.. Which one is correct?

        Maybe your mikrotik smooths the data more than tnsr. Maybe its a difference in whatever your using to graph that, and its polling, or smoothing settings.

        Even if using settings same, take reading every 2 seconds and average last 30 seconds.. if they are not looking at the data at exact same time your going to see differences..

        If you don't like the data your seeing because it doesn't "match" up exactly with some other system doesn't mean there is a snmp bug.. These are 2 different systems.. 2 different OSes, 2 different nics I assume, 2 different drivers, etc. etc..

        Looking at your graphs to me - just looking like one is smoothing more than the other. Or sample time slightly off.. I see increase in data that lines up with increase in data on the other one, I see area that could just be different smoothing applied

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        • jimpJ
          jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
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          It could also be a difference in how the two handle the data. For example the Mikrotik may be taking longer to process things and queuing up traffic, where TNSR is pushing it out as soon as it gets it.

          The totals are so close I find it hard to believe there is a problem with the data.

          There are also statistics available via prometheus, which you could try logging instead of SNMP, to see if that makes a difference.

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            LukeCage @johnpoz
            last edited by LukeCage

            @johnpoz

            still not seeing anything here other than a 2 watch problem.. Which one is correct?
            mikrotik device showing true data

            On the tnsr side, there are too many graphic defects

            i tried to install a new tnsr and get data
            dont have any problem https://prnt.sc/26d8tzs

            why i living this problem my main tnsr router i dont know
            https://prnt.sc/26d8ugs

            both tnsr working on reading every 30 seconds

            note: my traffic is progressing stable, as in the screenshot I mentioned on the tnsr side, there is an imbalance in my traffic.

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              LukeCage
              last edited by LukeCage

              i changed scanning interval on both devices

              tnsr -> 30 seconds to 60 seconds
              mikrotik 30 seconds to 5 seconds

              i will share results with you in 40-50 minutes

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              • jimpJ
                jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                last edited by

                I'm not seeing any defects, just differences in how the traffic is being processed at higher volumes in your environment.

                TNSR uses VPP which does vector processing which handles multiple packets at the same time, most other things process only one packet at a time (scalar processing). So it makes sense that it would handle large chunks of traffic at once (the peaks) as they come in.

                https://wiki.fd.io/view/VPP/What_is_VPP%3F

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                  LukeCage @jimp
                  last edited by LukeCage

                  @jimp

                  hello i found this problem
                  myby have rate limit on snmp

                  dont have any problem on 60 second scanning interval
                  https://prnt.sc/26d93l0

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                  • jimpJ
                    jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                    last edited by

                    Unlikely to be any kind of rate limit. That's just smoothing the peaks/valleys since you're sampling half as often.

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                      LukeCage @jimp
                      last edited by

                      @jimp ah oky thanks
                      this is what i needed

                      Thank you very much for your interest
                      @jimp @johnpoz

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                      • jimpJ
                        jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                        last edited by jimp

                        Also, not a rate limit per se but VPP only updates its counters every 10 seconds:

                        https://docs.netgate.com/tnsr/en/latest/monitoring/interfaces.html#monitoring-interfaces

                        It does that to minimize the load imposed on traffic processing by tracking statistics.

                        So there could be a timing issue there, but again, it all evens out over time.

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                          LukeCage @jimp
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                          @jimp Thank you sir

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