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    • bingo600B Offline
      bingo600 @SteveITS
      last edited by bingo600

      @steveits said in Migrating from CE to Plus - Home & Work Commercial:

      All questions for Netgate. :)

      Hope they will ansver at some point.

      The other option is buying Netgate hardware, for which there isn't an annual fee. There's a crossover point of course, at which the Plus license is more than the incremental cost of buying their hardware initially (over buying third party hardware).

      At the moment i have 13 "Non Netgate" Box'es at work , and they're working fine. If i need to get new or replace i will take Netgate boxes into serious consideration.

      I just feel they're missing an x64 model inbetween the ARM's and the 6100.
      6100 is prob. what i'd use in most places.

      I'll not be getting any of the current Arm based hardware, for work.
      They don't fit my usage.

      /Bingo

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        SteveITS Rebel Alliance @bingo600
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        @bingo600 said in Migrating from CE to Plus - Home & Work Commercial:

        they're missing an x64 model inbetween the ARM's and the 6100.

        Agreed, but I think they are well aware of that. :)

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          tohil
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          Hi

          I've upgraded my private APU2 based boxes from 2.5.2 to 2.6.0 and then to psense+ 22.1.

          Ist there a Limitation, that I cannot restore Config from one Box to another?

          What additional data am I sharing with negate?
          Or are them just knowing now which boxes I own?

          Regards

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          • stephenw10S Offline
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @bingo600
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            @bingo600 said in Migrating from CE to Plus - Home & Work Commercial:

            My guess is that you get an activation id , that when "entered" registers your Netgate ID on a Netgate Lic server , and then you're good to go (for a Home license), at the same time the activation id is invalidated, as it has been used.

            Exactly that.

            @bingo600 said in Migrating from CE to Plus - Home & Work Commercial:

            And after that period the Plus software won't function.

            No it won't stop functioning, we aren't suddenly going to open the firewall! Or close it. It will no longer see updates or packages.

            @bingo600 said in Migrating from CE to Plus - Home & Work Commercial:

            When i'm talking about 5 licenses it was for home use.
            And that should be ok.

            Personally I have waaay more than 5 firewalls at home. But I'm probably a special case. 😉
            But I don't see an issue with that.

            @steveits said in Migrating from CE to Plus - Home & Work Commercial:

            If your intention is to restore the config from a working/broken router to the cold spare, does that restore the license?

            It would not since that's tied the the hardware via the NDI not the config.

            @steveits said in Migrating from CE to Plus - Home & Work Commercial:

            they're missing an x64 model inbetween the ARM's and the 6100.

            Agreed, but I think they are well aware of that. :)

            Indeed we are. 😉

            We've spent a lot of time thinking about how all this will work but I'm sure there will be situations we don't yet have an immediate solution for.
            The best thing is to email our sales guys for questions about costs.

            Steve

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            • bingo600B Offline
              bingo600 @stephenw10
              last edited by bingo600

              @stephenw10 said in Migrating from CE to Plus - Home & Work Commercial:

              Personally I have waaay more than 5 firewalls at home. But I'm probably a special case.

              He..He - Thanx Stephen
              You are prob. one of the "few" that gets a home lic with the "Big TAC Support package" 😊

              There is a good License explanation here , from a Netgate person
              https://www.reddit.com/r/PFSENSE/comments/ssyq4p/comment/hx4di8i/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

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                troysjanda @stephenw10
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                @stephenw10

                so for home without tac-lite or any tac at all it is free and will remain so? or does the home license expire?

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                • stephenw10S Offline
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @troysjanda
                  last edited by

                  @troysjanda

                  Yes, for home it does not expire and I'm not aware of any plan to change that.

                  Steve

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                    fireodo @stephenw10
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                    @stephenw10

                    Hi,

                    is HomeOffice, from time to time, considered already as "commercial" use?
                    Thank you,
                    fireodo

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                    • bingo600B Offline
                      bingo600 @fireodo
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                      @fireodo
                      I read the license explanation from here:
                      https://forum.netgate.com/post/1025978

                      As if you're not having pfSense L2L tunnels from your Home pfSense to the company, then it's not "commercial".

                      Aka. using a PC VPN client from home (via pfSense) to the company is OK.
                      But having a permanent L2L tunnel to the company is NOT OK.

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                        fireodo @bingo600
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                        @bingo600 said in Migrating from CE to Plus - Home & Work Commercial:

                        As if you're not having pfSense L2L tunnels from your Home pfSense to the company, then it's not "commercial".
                        Aka. using a PC VPN client from home (via pfSense) to the company is OK.
                        But having a permanent L2L tunnel to the company is NOT OK.

                        Ah - many thanks, thats clear now.
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