Upgrade to ZFS

chudak

@ryanm said in Upgrade to ZFS:

Re-installation with "recover config.xml" and "Auto (ZFS)" will bring you up to speed and having ZFS in ~10min. :)

I am reading to upgrade UFS to ZFS
I never was able for some reason to do a reinstall with the "recover config.xml" option in one step :(

Wonder if you know any secrets/suggestions?

I did do a new install and then restore XML via the GUI fine though.

rcoleman-netgate

@chudak said in Upgrade to ZFS:

I never was able for some reason to do a reinstall with the "recover config.xml" option in one step :(
Wonder if you know any secrets/suggestions?

I finally did this without trying. After writing the image to the USB mount it back up with the FAT32 partition and copy the config file to it as "config.xml" and that's all it took for my system last week.

chudak

@rcoleman-netgate said in Upgrade to ZFS:

@chudak said in Upgrade to ZFS:

I never was able for some reason to do a reinstall with the "recover config.xml" option in one step :(
Wonder if you know any secrets/suggestions?

I finally did this without trying. After writing the image to the USB mount it back up with the FAT32 partition and copy the config file to it as "config.xml" and that's all it took for my system last week.

I did not quite get it. Why are you referring to FAT32?

rcoleman-netgate

@chudak When you write the pfSense image to a USB drive it makes two partitions... one is FAT and has nothing, or nearly nothing, in it. That's where you put the config.xml.

chudak

@rcoleman-netgate said in Upgrade to ZFS:

@chudak When you write the pfSense image to a USB drive it makes two partitions... one is FAT and has nothing, or nearly nothing, in it. That's where you put the config.xml.

Thank you!

I don't seem to be able to locate pFS+ download, do I need to get CE and then again upgrade it to pFS+ ?

johnpoz

@chudak said in Upgrade to ZFS:

I don't seem to be able to locate pFS+ download

Do you have a netgate appliance? If so you can request a download of the install img, if your on 3rd party hardware and want to move to +, then yeah you would be on 2.6 and request + license.

https://www.netgate.com/blog/migrate-from-pfsense-ce-software-to-netgate-pfsense-plus-software

chudak

@johnpoz said in Upgrade to ZFS:

@chudak said in Upgrade to ZFS:

I don't seem to be able to locate pFS+ download

Do you have a netgate appliance? If so you can request a download of the install img, if your on 3rd party hardware and want to move to +, then yeah you would be on 2.6 and request + license.

https://www.netgate.com/blog/migrate-from-pfsense-ce-software-to-netgate-pfsense-plus-software

I don't have a netgate appliance, but I already upgraded to 22.01.
I need to start from 2.6 and then upgrade to 22.01?

johnpoz

@chudak to do a clean install? Yeah I think that is the only way.. That came up in another thread I think as well..

rcoleman-netgate

@johnpoz This is a correct statement.

chudak

@rcoleman-netgate

I created a USB stick and see this:

I suspect you meant to place config.xml into PFSENSE drive along with README?

JeGr

@rcoleman-netgate So are there plans to release a "normal" plus ISO/image to directly install to devices that already have a token/their NDI known or will it always require a two-stop-shop-update from a CE to a corresponding Plus version?

rcoleman-netgate

@jegr I'm not in the engineering department so I am not privvy to that process.

I can make presumptions and guesses but then someone will come back and point at that as gospel.

So for the time being the process is install CE, if your NDI hasn't changed then you will get the current Plus upgrade offered within a few minutes of being online. If the NDI has changed and it's a lab install you can get a new token, if it's a subscription you'd reach out to TAC for further assistance.

rcoleman-netgate

@chudak yes, that's where you put the config.xml file.

JeGr

@rcoleman-netgate said in Upgrade to ZFS:

@jegr I'm not in the engineering department so I am not privvy to that process.

I can make presumptions and guesses but then someone will come back and point at that as gospel.

So for the time being the process is install CE, if your NDI hasn't changed then you will get the current Plus upgrade offered within a few minutes of being online. If the NDI has changed and it's a lab install you can get a new token, if it's a subscription you'd reach out to TAC for further assistance.

Knowing where you come from and appreciate the reply, thanks!

JonH

@jegr I have just received the zfs image from Netgate and plan to overwrite my 22.05 and use the config.xml that I downloaded using backup configuration w/ extra data saved. I don't use autoconfig.

I am wondering about some log files in various directories under /var. I presume they may not be part of the backed up config. Is that correct?

I'm just a home user with a few pkgs installed, pfBlockerNG, darkstat, syslog-ng, ntopng. Will data and config from all of these be carried over with my backed up config? If not, which one's do I need to make a separate backup of?

rcoleman-netgate

@jonh said in Upgrade to ZFS:

I am wondering about some log files in various directories under /var. I presume they may not be part of the backed up config. Is that correct?

Correct, only the configs are backed up. You can back up the RRD at the time of backup if you want (more info: https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/monitoring/graphs/index.html) but that's the extent of the backup file.

JonH

@rcoleman-netgate thanks, with much trepidation I updated my 5100 to zfs and it all worked

rcoleman-netgate

@jonh No concerns should be had about going to ZFS, it's a lot more stable with unexpected reboots than UFS was. Mirroring is different for most uses, and I've seen more problems with people not following the directions on installation than anything else.

tomtom13

I've got a bit of a warning (and maybe at the same time request for help):
I use ZFS pretty much anywhere where I can. When I've received my 6100 - first thing was to get two nvme drives and create a raid 1 zfs - and yes it was worth it. After 3 years, one of the drives just died, however since it's nice ZFS it keeps soldering on. Now, problem is that I'm trying to replace second but I've got 512GB spare drives, not 256. I have naively assumed that I can just DD from good old drive to new 512gb drive and just fix the GPT partition and I'll be golden (after which I would just recreate a second drive manually). But NO. Unlike any reasonable UEFI system, it just doesn't want to work with that cloned drive. Console is not useful at all, it just tell "starting up [insert random name here] lens" and that's it ...

So moral of the story is ZFS will save your but in a pinch, but be prepared that you'll need to make a new install and restore from backups if you want to change the drive.

stephenw10

You should be able to remove the old drive from the pool and add the new one. I would expect the system to still boot the old drive after replacing the broken one.