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      KrypticKahos @manicmoose
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      @manicmoose
      Since then I have reverted back to CE on 2.6.0
      And yes, after generating ssh_host_rsa_key I still get the error when starting sshd.

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        manicmoose @KrypticKahos
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        @kryptickahos
        Well, it's going to be a strange outcome.

        If you've got the file that pfSense is whinging about and the perm's are all correct, then there's something probably only Netgate can answer going wrong.
        If you can't get any joy here then I guess you'll have to re-install from scratch and not restore your config. Good luck...!

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          KrypticKahos
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          I managed to get sshd working as expected. Failure for the keys to be generated correctly appears have been related to expiration of webConfigurator default certificate.

          I renewed the self signed cert, disable ssh, rebooted, re-enabled ssh. Received the keys are being generated notification and then immediately keys were generated and now sshd works correctly.

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            manicmoose @KrypticKahos
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            @kryptickahos
            Hmmm....thought the expired cert would have come up as a pretty obvious alert on the web console page.
            Either way, it would have been nice to see this error also in the logs to give you a clue.
            Nice you've sorted it, anyhow!! 👍

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              KrypticKahos @manicmoose
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              @manicmoose
              It was obvious that the cert was expired, just didn't think it would have anything to do with ssh key generation. I also incorrectly assumed it was from an old cert when I was playing with the acme plugin.

              It's still weird I was able to start ssh from command prompt, and it gave a the missing key error, but either way I'm glad its working now.

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                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                Mmm, that is weird. I can't really see how an expired cert would affect that. I'll see if I can replicate it.

                Steve

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                  KrypticKahos @stephenw10
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                  @stephenw10
                  One final piece of information that may help with the actual root cause of the issue. When troubleshooting I also found an old static IP entry on LAN for the device I was using as my firewall. This was an old entry from when I was using a different firewall and had this device on the network. During the time of getting the fix working I also deleted the static IP entry, but it didn't immediately resolve the issue so I didn't think it was the solution but it might have been.

                  I attempted further testing by restoring to the old config that had the static IP as well as the expired self signed cert (I didn't perform a clean install this time). At reboot after restoring with both issues sshd worked correctly.

                  So this may actually be related to the static IP entry but only manifests after a clean install and restore. If I get some time in the future I may attempt a clean install again but as of current this is the best info I have.

                  As an extra point the firewall I'm using is a dual Ethernet port device, with non-switched ports. I'm not sure if the WAN or LAN port was assigned the static IP, but it was one of them.

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                    lxndrp @stephenw10
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                    @stephenw10 @manicmoose

                    I have the impression that we have several issues that somehow interact here.

                    First, it seems that (for our systems) after an upgrade from 2.5.2 to 2.6, SSH host keys get lost. I have verified this for my installation (with a clean install) already.

                    Second, a re-install from USB (with config.xml recovery from disk) has the same issue. I have verified this as well: A manual backup of the config.xml before doing the reinstall has the keys; after the reinstall, they seem to be lost.

                    Third, although keys are in place (e.g. by running

                    ssh-keygen -A
                    

                    from the Diagnostics/Command Prompt), sshd fails to start (logs look ok, Status/Services indicates a red X, running

                    ssh admin@pfsense
                    

                    against the pfSense host times out.

                    However, when running

                    /usr/sbin/sshd
                    

                    from the Diagnostics/Command Prompt manually, it seems to start fine (no output at all), and sshing into the machine works fine.

                    After rebooting a few times (usually once doesn't suffice), sshd seems to start normally.

                    Let me know if I can provide you with additional information (logs etc.); I am happy to help.

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                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                      Hmm, ssh keys certainly shouldn't be lost at upgrade.

                      Storing of SSH keys in the config is new in 22.01/2.6 so if you are restoring a backup from 2.5.2 the keys would not be restored.

                      You see any errors when restoring a 2.6 config into 2.6?

                      Steve

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                        lxndrp @stephenw10
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                        @stephenw10 I only tried from 22.01 to 2.6.0; there, the same issue appears.

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