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    • stephenw10S
      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
      last edited by

      Before or after '...done'?

      Leading pfBlocker seems more likely to be taking time.

      Try pressing ctl+t while it appears to hang. What process is it waiting for?

      Steve

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      • lohphatL
        lohphat @stephenw10
        last edited by

        @stephenw10 After the "...done." it completes the line, adds a new-line, then just stops, so it's not the System Patches task.

        Three minutes later the pfBLockerNG-devel line prints.

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        • lohphatL
          lohphat @stephenw10
          last edited by

          @stephenw10

          Here you go. I hit Ctrl-T every few seconds:

          Starting package System Patches...done.
load: 1.02  cmd: php-cgi 43649 [nanslp] 2.65r 0.70u 0.16s 8% 32292k
load: 0.94  cmd: php-cgi 43649 [nanslp] 7.25r 0.70u 0.16s 4% 32292k
load: 1.02  cmd: php-cgi 43649 [nanslp] 13.17r 0.70u 0.16s 1% 32292k
load: 1.10  cmd: php-cgi 43649 [nanslp] 18.86r 0.70u 0.16s 0% 32292k
load: 1.09  cmd: php-cgi 43649 [nanslp] 23.63r 0.70u 0.16s 0% 32292k
load: 1.16  cmd: php-cgi 43649 [nanslp] 28.35r 0.70u 0.16s 0% 32292k
load: 1.30  cmd: sh 80767 [wait] 37.26r 0.00u 0.06s 0% 2408k
load: 1.27  cmd: sh 80767 [wait] 42.27r 0.00u 0.06s 0% 2408k
load: 1.27  cmd: sh 80767 [wait] 45.99r 0.00u 0.06s 0% 2408k
load: 1.25  cmd: sh 80767 [wait] 50.14r 0.00u 0.06s 0% 2408k
load: 1.23  cmd: sh 80767 [wait] 54.99r 0.00u 0.06s 0% 2408k
load: 1.21  cmd: sh 80767 [wait] 59.80r 0.00u 0.06s 0% 2408k
load: 1.20  cmd: cut 78146 [piperd] 0.86r 0.00u 0.00s 0% 1936k
load: 1.18  cmd: sh 80767 [wait] 69.84r 0.00u 0.09s 0% 2404k
load: 1.17  cmd: sh 80767 [wait] 76.31r 0.00u 0.09s 0% 2404k
load: 1.15  cmd: sh 80767 [wait] 81.48r 0.00u 0.09s 0% 2404k
load: 1.13  cmd: sh 80767 [wait] 89.80r 0.00u 0.09s 0% 2404k
load: 1.12  cmd: sh 80767 [wait] 95.01r 0.00u 0.09s 0% 2404k
load: 1.10  cmd: sh 80767 [wait] 102.20r 0.00u 0.09s 0% 2404k
 Starting package pfBlockerNG-devel...done.
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          • stephenw10S
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
            last edited by

            Hmm, what patches are you loading?

            Do you a very large number of pfBlocker lists/rules?

            I expected to see it waiting on pfctl directly there which would have pointed to this: https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/12827 But it doesn't look like you are hitting that.

            Steve

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            • lohphatL
              lohphat @stephenw10
              last edited by

              @stephenw10 No patches loaded. I should probably remove it as it was only installed for the old PHP bug.

              I have what I'd consider basic pfB rules.

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              • lohphatL
                lohphat @stephenw10
                last edited by

                @stephenw10 So I did the update to System Patches and disabled pfB-devel and still got the delay. (FYI, it didn't delay this way in the last firmware release.)

                But the Ctrl-T list is a bit different with pfB-devel disabled:

                Starting CRON... done.
 Starting package ntopng...done.
 Starting package Avahi...done.
 Starting package OpenVPN Client Export Utility...done.
 Starting package System Patches...done.
load: 1.55  cmd: fcgicli 91461 [sbwait] 30.31r 0.00u 0.00s 0% 2088k
load: 1.46  cmd: fcgicli 91461 [sbwait] 40.95r 0.00u 0.00s 0% 2088k
load: 1.39  cmd: fcgicli 91461 [sbwait] 49.12r 0.00u 0.00s 0% 2088k
load: 1.36  cmd: fcgicli 91461 [sbwait] 54.33r 0.00u 0.00s 0% 2088k
load: 1.41  cmd: sleep 89616 [nanslp] 0.53r 0.00u 0.00s 0% 1908k
load: 1.38  cmd: sleep 89616 [nanslp] 4.35r 0.00u 0.00s 0% 1912k
load: 1.35  cmd: fcgicli 91461 [sbwait] 71.00r 0.00u 0.00s 0% 2088k
load: 1.32  cmd: fcgicli 91461 [sbwait] 74.36r 0.00u 0.00s 0% 2088k
load: 1.37  cmd: fcgicli 91461 [sbwait] 79.15r 0.00u 0.00s 0% 2088k
load: 1.34  cmd: fcgicli 91461 [sbwait] 84.16r 0.00u 0.00s 0% 2088k
load: 1.34  cmd: fcgicli 91461 [sbwait] 88.01r 0.00u 0.00s 0% 2088k
load: 1.31  cmd: fcgicli 91461 [sbwait] 92.50r 0.00u 0.00s 0% 2088k
load: 1.29  cmd: fcgicli 91461 [sbwait] 97.60r 0.00u 0.00s 0% 2088k
load: 1.27  cmd: fcgicli 91461 [sbwait] 102.41r 0.00u 0.00s 0% 2088k
load: 1.24  cmd: fcgicli 91461 [sbwait] 106.22r 0.00u 0.00s 0% 2088k
 Starting package pfBlockerNG-devel...done.
 Starting /usr/local/etc/rc.d/pfb_dnsbl.sh...done.
 Starting /usr/local/etc/rc.d/pfb_filter.sh...done.
Netgate pfSense Plus 22.01-RELEASE arm Mon Feb 07 16:39:01 UTC 2022
Bootup complete

                I will now try again with System Patches removed, then I'll try removing pfB-devel (keeping settings).

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                • lohphatL
                  lohphat @stephenw10
                  last edited by

                  @stephenw10 pfB-devel seems to be the culprit.

                  Disabling didn't have an effect but after I removed the package, the boot sped through the CRON startup section as expected.

                  However, with the package removed, the following lines appeared in the boot console even after several reboots.

                  Loading configuration......done.
sh: /usr/local/pkg/pfblockerng/pfblockerng.sh: not found
Updating configuration...done.

                  I'm reinstalling the package now to see if that clears the behavior.

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                  • lohphatL
                    lohphat @stephenw10
                    last edited by

                    @stephenw10

                    Confirming that re-installing the current pfBlocker-devel causes the boot delay to return even if the package is disabled.

                    I'd be fine if this thread were moved to the appropriate module forum.

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by

                      You might try the patch for pfctl latency anyway. See if that makes any difference to the boot times.

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                      • lohphatL
                        lohphat @stephenw10
                        last edited by

                        @stephenw10 Unfamiliar with that patch. Link?

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                        • GertjanG
                          Gertjan @lohphat
                          last edited by

                          @lohphat said in Long boots after 22.01 update on SG-3100 with pfBlockerng:

                          Link

                          Install the System_Patches, version 2.0_2.
                          Go to System > Patches
                          Probably this one :

                          7703dec3-8933-451c-aead-9106d8e56617-image.png

                          ( part of the " Recommended System Patches for Netgate pfSense® software version 2.6.0 " list )

                          No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                          Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                          • lohphatL
                            lohphat @Gertjan
                            last edited by

                            @gertjan

                            Still long delay during boot after applying patch:

                            Starting CRON... done.
 Starting package ntopng...done.
 Starting package Avahi...done.
 Starting package OpenVPN Client Export Utility...done.
 Starting package System Patches...done.
load: 1.20  cmd: php-cgi 62419 [nanslp] 7.64r 0.74u 0.12s 3% 32304k
load: 1.18  cmd: php-cgi 62419 [nanslp] 11.46r 0.74u 0.12s 2% 32304k
load: 1.18  cmd: php-cgi 62419 [nanslp] 14.91r 0.74u 0.12s 1% 32304k
load: 1.17  cmd: php-cgi 62419 [nanslp] 18.47r 0.74u 0.12s 0% 32304k
load: 1.15  cmd: php-cgi 62419 [nanslp] 22.77r 0.74u 0.12s 0% 32304k
load: 1.14  cmd: php-cgi 62419 [nanslp] 26.28r 0.74u 0.12s 0% 32304k
load: 1.14  cmd: php-cgi 62419 [nanslp] 29.63r 0.74u 0.12s 0% 32304k
load: 1.13  cmd: sh 99162 [wait] 36.16r 0.00u 0.06s 0% 2408k
load: 1.12  cmd: sh 99162 [wait] 38.75r 0.00u 0.06s 0% 2408k
load: 1.12  cmd: sh 99162 [wait] 41.85r 0.00u 0.06s 0% 2408k
load: 1.11  cmd: sh 99162 [wait] 44.27r 0.00u 0.06s 0% 2408k
load: 1.11  cmd: sh 99162 [wait] 46.87r 0.00u 0.06s 0% 2408k
load: 1.10  cmd: sh 99162 [wait] 49.87r 0.00u 0.06s 0% 2408k
load: 1.09  cmd: sh 99162 [wait] 53.35r 0.00u 0.06s 0% 2408k
load: 1.09  cmd: sh 99162 [wait] 56.46r 0.00u 0.06s 0% 2408k
load: 1.08  cmd: sh 99162 [wait] 59.37r 0.00u 0.06s 0% 2408k
load: 1.08  cmd: sh 99162 [wait] 62.32r 0.00u 0.06s 0% 2408k
load: 1.08  cmd: sleep 91323 [runnable] 0.00r 0.00u 0.00s 0% 1852k
load: 1.07  cmd: sh 99162 [wait] 68.90r 0.00u 0.13s 0% 2404k
load: 1.07  cmd: sleep 91323 [nanslp] 6.62r 0.00u 0.00s 0% 1912k
load: 1.07  cmd: sh 99162 [wait] 75.85r 0.00u 0.13s 0% 2404k
load: 1.06  cmd: sh 99162 [wait] 79.77r 0.00u 0.13s 0% 2404k
load: 1.06  cmd: sh 99162 [wait] 83.12r 0.00u 0.13s 0% 2404k
load: 1.06  cmd: sh 99162 [wait] 86.71r 0.00u 0.13s 0% 2404k
load: 1.05  cmd: sh 99162 [wait] 90.06r 0.00u 0.13s 0% 2404k
load: 1.05  cmd: sh 99162 [wait] 93.93r 0.00u 0.13s 0% 2404k
load: 1.04  cmd: sh 99162 [wait] 97.54r 0.00u 0.13s 0% 2404k
load: 1.04  cmd: sh 99162 [wait] 101.57r 0.00u 0.13s 0% 2404k
load: 1.04  cmd: sh 99162 [wait] 105.56r 0.00u 0.13s 0% 2404k
load: 1.04  cmd: sh 99162 [wait] 109.68r 0.00u 0.13s 0% 2404k
 Starting package pfBlockerNG-devel...done.
 Starting /usr/local/etc/rc.d/pfb_dnsbl.sh...done.
 Starting /usr/local/etc/rc.d/pfb_filter.sh...done.
Netgate pfSense Plus 22.01-RELEASE arm Mon Feb 07 16:39:01 UTC 2022
Bootup complete
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                            • stephenw10S
                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                              last edited by

                              Does it do the same if you restart the service? Or running forced update or reload in pfBlocker?

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                              • lohphatL
                                lohphat @stephenw10
                                last edited by

                                @stephenw10 The boot would delay even if the package was disabled.

                                I've run the reload and is completes in 10-15 seconds.

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                                • stephenw10S
                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                  last edited by

                                  If the aliases are present it may still be populating them even when disabled. Do you have a load of things selected in pfBlocker? It could be having to time-out on some if they are not responding.

                                  Steve

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                                  • lohphatL
                                    lohphat @stephenw10
                                    last edited by

                                    @stephenw10 I can reload sources in 10-15 seconds when it's up and running.

                                    Also, why wouldn't "Starting package pfBlockerNG-devel..." display while it is processing and then print "done.\n" when finished after the long delay? It's hanging for several minutes at boot then prints the entire line "Starting package pfBlockerNG-devel...done." all at once -- even if the package is disabled.

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                                    • stephenw10S
                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                      last edited by

                                      Well it depends how that script is run. What I suspect is that the actual service the pfBlocker installs starts pretty much instantly. The aliases are not a service though. It's probably trying to populate those before it tries to start 'pfBlockerNG DNSBL Web Server'.

                                      Steve

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                                      • lohphatL
                                        lohphat @stephenw10
                                        last edited by lohphat

                                        @stephenw10

                                        FOUND IT!

                                        It's related to "pfBlockerNG-devel: Version 3.1.0_2 - Fix for #12706" topic.

                                        If /tmp and /var are set to use a ramdisk then the long boot delay appears. Disabling it results in no delay.

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                                          lohphat
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                                          • lohphatL
                                            lohphat
                                            last edited by lohphat

                                            The 3.1.0_2 update did not fix the long boot delay.

                                            The Ctrl-T process output at the hang point is similar.

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