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    • DaddyGoD
      DaddyGo @dfinjr
      last edited by DaddyGo

      @dfinjr said in VMware Workstation VMs Web Traffic Being Blocked:

      I think the screen shot it shows that the type is vmnet0.

      Nope, that would be part of the "custom" option, you are currently using the E1000e driver from VMwareTools as the default driver Intel 82574

      it's definitely the interaction between virtual environment and windows, I wouldn't think pfSense is cool to differentiate between physical machine and VM machine on the same subnet ๐Ÿ˜‰

      try playing around with the virtual machine NIC driver, as a high number of retransmission may indicate a stall....

      +++edit:
      https://kb.vmware.com/s/article/2032184

      Cats bury it so they can't see it!
      (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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        dfinjr @DaddyGo
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        @daddygo said in VMware Workstation VMs Web Traffic Being Blocked:

        https://kb.vmware.com/s/article/2032184

        I'll give this a shot here in a few and update the post. Thank you!

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          dfinjr @DaddyGo
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          @daddygo
          Looks like the vmware specific drivers do not want to play ball with the host:
          48369a89-423e-44d2-8aed-595fbc1d48ea-image.png

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            dfinjr @stephenw10
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            @stephenw10
            Hi Steve,
            Was wondering if you had any other ideas on what you were seeing on the network packet captures?

            Thanks!
            David

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            • DaddyGoD
              DaddyGo @dfinjr
              last edited by DaddyGo

              @dfinjr said in VMware Workstation VMs Web Traffic Being Blocked:

              Looks like the vmware specific drivers do not want to play ball with the host:

              Ouupss...

              Unfortunately I don't use Windows with workstation16, only on ESXi with vmxnet3 and no problems behind pfSense....

              just out of curiosity would you try it behind NAT on your workstation16...(?)

              BTW:
              windows is a strange beast when it comes to type 2 hypervisors, although I haven't seen this on VirtualBox yet either, I'll install one on workstation16 tomorrow.

              I'm getting more and more excited, but I can definitely feel that it's not a pfSense question ๐Ÿ˜‰

              edit:
              Ubuntu behaves perfectly well in this setting, so I suspect to MS

              dcaa7a3e-1a35-4b8e-a20e-2b44d1b7ca91-image.png

              Cats bury it so they can't see it!
              (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                Mmm, I would not think either pfSense or the Cisco router would have any idea which traffic comes from a VM. And it shouldn't matter.
                Things I could imagine happening are the Cisco doing some fragmentation or reassembly pfSense is not.

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                • DaddyGoD
                  DaddyGo @stephenw10
                  last edited by

                  @stephenw10 said in VMware Workstation VMs Web Traffic Being Blocked:

                  Cisco doing some fragmentation or reassembly pfSense is not.

                  Yuppp,... This is also possible, but the problem is that it is transferred to the VM environment in different ways, ergo one of the device drivers (VM) is messing with us (maybe) ๐Ÿ˜‰

                  BTW:
                  ens33 has nothing wrong with this on Ubuntu

                  Cats bury it so they can't see it!
                  (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                    In the pcap there are some jumbo frames shown between internal hosts. So possibly something is trying to use them externally. I don't see that in the capture though.

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                      dfinjr @DaddyGo
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                      @daddygo
                      Ok so interestingly enough, switching it to NAT and then allowing it to get an "IP" from the VMware hosting pieces with its little internal DHCP server it does restore internet functionality. However, I think with the solutions that I'm hosting (Endpoint management with BigFix) that this may very well stop it from service providing for the rest of the infrastructure. Haven't tested that out yet or anything but wanted to drop the note that it is allowing for browsing under nat settings.

                      I'll test out the other functionality to see if I am getting roadblocks for its other services. Clients external to that system register to the management area so I am worried that if it was buried behind the hosting laptops identity on the network.

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                      • DaddyGoD
                        DaddyGo @dfinjr
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                        @dfinjr said in VMware Workstation VMs Web Traffic Being Blocked:

                        it does restore internet functionality.

                        I felt it was going to be ๐Ÿ˜‰
                        which is why I don't use a windows on type two hypervisor, hihihihi

                        but still I understand your concern and I'm sure it can be made to work, now I'm going to watch CNN (damn war , ): ), but tomorrow I'll install a win10 (on ws16) and test it, because it's interesting

                        I'll let you know what I find

                        Cats bury it so they can't see it!
                        (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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                          dfinjr @dfinjr
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                          @dfinjr
                          It makes sense to me why going NAT would work but I did just verify that it makes the hosting services invisible on the network. So it does fix browsing but does break the availability of listening services.

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                            dfinjr @DaddyGo
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                            @daddygo
                            Thank you for all the help today! I am going to keep going but you've shed some light on things to say the least!

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                            • DaddyGoD
                              DaddyGo @dfinjr
                              last edited by

                              @dfinjr said in VMware Workstation VMs Web Traffic Being Blocked:

                              but does break the availability of listening services.

                              Well this is how I hide my Ubuntu machine on WS16, yes indeed not a "bridge" type connection

                              Cats bury it so they can't see it!
                              (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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                              • DaddyGoD
                                DaddyGo @dfinjr
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                                @dfinjr said in VMware Workstation VMs Web Traffic Being Blocked:

                                but you've shed some light on things to say the least!

                                you're welcome,
                                if you keep testing, post it here so I can see it tomorrow ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                Cats bury it so they can't see it!
                                (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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                                  dfinjr @stephenw10
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                                  @stephenw10 said in VMware Workstation VMs Web Traffic Being Blocked:

                                  I could imagine happening are the Cisco doing some fragmentation or reassembly pfSense is not.

                                  Is there a way for me to enable something like this in pfsense?

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                                    dfinjr @DaddyGo
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                                    @daddygo
                                    Will do!

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                                    • stephenw10S
                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @dfinjr
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                                      @dfinjr There is one setting that might do something like that though the traffic you have there would not normally affected. In Sys > Adv > Firewall&NAT try setting 'IP Do-Not-Fragment compatibility'.

                                      Make sure the Cisco router did not have jumbo frames set on any of it's interfaces.

                                      To get a definitive diagnostic I would try to capture a failing connection on the pfSense LAN and the host VM at the same time so we can compare exactly what each is seeing.
                                      Filter both by the external IP it's connecting to so we don't have to wade through a load of other traffic if possible.

                                      Steve

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                                        dfinjr @stephenw10
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                                        @stephenw10
                                        Thank you for the advice. I'll perform that test as soon as I'm back onsite (tonight/tomorrow early AM) and also validate your inquiry about jumbo frames.

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                                          dfinjr @stephenw10
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                                          @stephenw10
                                          Good morning Steve, picking up where I left off this morning. Here is a screen shot from the Cisco device, which I failed over to yesterday afternoon for some work stuff but I just redid the test and then processed this output. I'll do a quick packet capture while I'm at it before I switch back over to the netgate appliance and resume testing. Let me know if you want a packet capture while the Cisco appliance is hooked up because I'll have it but won't send it to you unless you think it would be helpful:
                                          fe9c325b-0e3a-46ba-85ea-eca30356417d-image.png

                                          I'll resume testing after I switch over her shortly back to the netgate.

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                                          • stephenw10S
                                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                            No that looks fine, nothing there looks like it would be doing anything different.

                                            I think simultaneous pcaps form the pfSense LAN and the client should be revealing.

                                            Steve

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