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    • johnpozJ
      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @dfinjr
      last edited by johnpoz

      @dfinjr and if you ssh to your pfsense and do a ifconfig - what are all the mtu for all the intefaces showing?

      Looking at your ciscoasa pcap - the frame sizes are sill OFF.. 1434 and 1380?

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        dfinjr @johnpoz
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        @johnpoz
        doesn't look like this output shows the MTU:
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        is there another command I can run in order to give you what you're after?

        Yeah I bet the frame sizes were still off. No idea how the ASA was compensating for it.

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        • johnpozJ
          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @dfinjr
          last edited by johnpoz

          @dfinjr that is not an ifconfig command

          ifconfig.jpg

          from the main pfsense menu, do 8 and then run the command

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            dfinjr @johnpoz
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            @johnpoz
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            • DaddyGoD
              DaddyGo @dfinjr
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              @dfinjr

              rather so, enter the shell (8) ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                dfinjr @DaddyGo
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                @daddygo
                my bad!
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                • DaddyGoD
                  DaddyGo @dfinjr
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                  @dfinjr

                  this looks good....
                  we're not moving forward, we're stuck in one place, I can think of two things:

                  1. do you have a good quality USB NIC in your hands?
                  2. VirtualBox temp install

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                    dfinjr @DaddyGo
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                    @daddygo
                    I agree. breaking out another system with mint/virtual box on it to test. stand by for a sec and let me build something up.

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @johnpoz
                      last edited by

                      @johnpoz said in VMware Workstation VMs Web Traffic Being Blocked:

                      Looking at your ciscoasa pcap - the frame sizes are sill OFF.. 1434 and 1380?

                      Yeah, interesting. Something is restricting the MTU there.

                      Also interesting is that the pcap on the VM host sees the traffic both ways with the Cisco in there.

                      Steve

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                        dfinjr
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                        While we're waiting...

                        Would you expect to see a block between two systems on these two vlans?

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                        got something interesting going on here and I wonder if it is the same thing we've been seeing...

                        As I mentioned once before, I am a Bigfix sales engineer.

                        The DMZ client can ping/curl everything I would expect for the system to connect to the Bigfix management server yet I am seeing it fail.

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                        • stephenw10S
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                          What's the advanced option you have set on the LABSYSTEMS rule?

                          I would not expect anything blocked, do you see blocks in the firewall log?

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                            dfinjr @stephenw10
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                            @stephenw10
                            It's likely this, from troubleshooting:

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                            Maybe so:
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                            • stephenw10S
                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                              You shouldn't need that TCP flags setting unless you have an asymmetric route and it would be a lot more broken if you did.

                              Those blocked packets look like the host at 10.10.0.10 sending acks after the state has closed, which is usually not an issue.
                              https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/troubleshooting/log-filter-blocked.html#troubleshooting-blocked-log-entries-for-legitimate-connection-packets

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                                dfinjr @stephenw10
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                                @stephenw10

                                Recommendation?

                                @DaddyGo

                                Almost done with the virtual box vm.

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                                • DaddyGoD
                                  DaddyGo
                                  last edited by DaddyGo

                                  @dfinjr said in VMware Workstation VMs Web Traffic Being Blocked:

                                  Recommendation?

                                  Recommendation!
                                  https://forum.netgate.com/topic/36362/log-shows-tcp-fa-tcp-fpa-blocked-from-lan

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                                    dfinjr
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                                    any chance any of you would be in for a direct troubleshooting session with me? I feel like I am burning a lot of your time and I was hoping to speed up the process for us all. If so I was thinking I can host a meeting at 11AM EST over gotomeeting if anyone is interested?

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                                    • stephenw10S
                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                      last edited by stephenw10

                                      You can try setting the firewall optimisation to conservative in Sys > Adv > Firewall&NAT. That gives you longer state timeouts if it needs that.

                                      I really wouldn't expect that though.

                                      If you actually do have some asymmetry there that could explain a number of things. Why you only saw one way traffic on the VMhost NIC for example. But I would expect far more to be broken if that was the case.

                                      Steve

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                                      • DaddyGoD
                                        DaddyGo @dfinjr
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                                        @dfinjr said in VMware Workstation VMs Web Traffic Being Blocked:

                                        any chance any of you would be in for a direct troubleshooting session with me?

                                        ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                                          dfinjr
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                                          Ok so a few updates have taken place.

                                          First of all:
                                          @DaddyGo
                                          Your virtual box build idea works. All traffic all sites work. Problem is localized to the vm workstation area on that host machine.

                                          Firewall to 10.10.0.10:
                                          Still failing to register for unknown reasons after adjusting to conservative.

                                          on the live session:
                                          I'd be happy to do a write up from whatever we wall potentially do in this forum post. My goal was only to let you all see first hand what is happening. Happy to keep it here if that is what you all want. Obviously I do not want to ask anyone to do anything they're not comfortable with.

                                          Overall I feel like we're getting close to the answer. We know that the vm workstation virtual switching is part of the problem for sure but are still on the mystery why the Cisco ASA was able to cope and route.

                                          This 10.10.0.10 secondary problem is interesting because that is physical > virtual connection where I have that working in a multitude of places outside of that DMZ vlan. A handful of systems are able to effectively do what that DMZ client is failing to do from both the other vlans (labsystems and default)

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                                          • DaddyGoD
                                            DaddyGo @dfinjr
                                            last edited by DaddyGo

                                            @dfinjr said in VMware Workstation VMs Web Traffic Being Blocked:

                                            but are still on the mystery why the Cisco ASA was able to cope and route.

                                            I think the answer is here in the Cisco FW (RFC1191) ๐Ÿ˜‰ :

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                                            +++edit:

                                            https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/security/asa/asa96/configuration/general/asa-96-general-config/interface-mtu.html

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