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    Issue with SG-3100 and 22.01? [Solved]

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      FSC830
      last edited by

      Yes, nothing else, this was all.
      And now I know for sure that system crashes about 06:53am local time.
      I am running periodic updates to a weather site and this stopped at 06:53 and continues after my reboot at 08:15am.
      At this time no one accessed the pfSense, so I am wondering why php is crashed.

      Regards

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      • stephenw10S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
        last edited by

        With weeks in between incidents like that it could be something like RAM or disk exhaustion.

        Check the graphs in Status > Monitoring. Do they show continuously increasing resource use anywhere?

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          FSC830
          last edited by

          I will keep an eye in the next time at this page.
          Until yet I always checkech in the dashboard the usage, but this was always low:

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          and did not increase unusal.

          Regards

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          • stephenw10S
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
            last edited by

            The monitoring graphs log that over time so should show anything like that still if it happened.

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              FSC830
              last edited by FSC830

              Upps, just seen that it stores over time. Clearly seen, the gap from this morning when services stops:

              drop_april.png

              But usage is constant every time!?

              Regards

              Edit: And here is the first drop in March:

              drop_march.png

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                last edited by

                So no big CPU usage before it stopped logging. You can check other resources by changing the graph settings. I would definitely check memory.

                Steve

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                  FSC830
                  last edited by

                  Yes, seems that memory is slowly, but steadily decreasing over the days! 🤔

                  But if I see it correct, there was more than 65% free this morning!?

                  From today:

                  memory_april.png

                  And in total since running on 22.01:

                  memory_march.png

                  Regards

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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by

                    Hmm, still mostly free though. That wouldn't stop it responding.

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                      NOCling
                      last edited by

                      Is this the Unit you Update Wireguard and got into the wrong branch issue?

                      If so, go for a Backup and clean reinstall.

                      Netgate 6100 & Netgate 2100

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                      • ?
                        A Former User
                        last edited by

                        Hi, I have the exact same problem with a 2100. I did a clean install of 2.6 about a month ago, and this problem has happened twice since then. I had no issues with the device before.
                        The GUI becomes inaccessible, SSH unreachable, cron jobs stop running etc., but routing still works to some extent (I can access my VPN server behind pfSense remotely).
                        I haven't been able to find anything relevant in the logs, so any pointers as to where to look would be appreciated.
                        I use pfSense at an SMB so this is an absolute deal breaker for me unfortunately.

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                        • stephenw10S
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                          last edited by

                          There is no 2.6 image for the 2100, which is aarch64, I assume you mean 22.01?

                          Some services remaining up whilst others fail is typical of something like RAM exhaustion though so check the same things. It can also be caused by a failing drive which then prevents any errors being logged.

                          Steve

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                          • ?
                            A Former User @stephenw10
                            last edited by

                            @stephenw10: Yes, I meant 22.01, sorry. I don't see anything unusual with RAM usage. Is there anything in S.M.A.R.T. data that would indicate that the M.2 SSD is failing? Also, is there an M.2 SATA SSD (2242) that you'd "officially" recommend?

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                            • stephenw10S
                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                              last edited by

                              Not other than the one that was already fitted if it has one.

                              I would expect some errors in the SMART data if it is failing.

                              I might expect to see other errors logged also.

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                                A Former User @stephenw10
                                last edited by

                                @stephenw10: It didn't come with an M.2 SSD, I installed one. Do you know what errors/indicators I should be looking for, specifically?

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                                • stephenw10S
                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                  last edited by

                                  Not anything specific. Any errors are bad!

                                  Try running the short test and check the results.

                                  Logging the console output is usually the best way to diagnose a drive failure of you can since the system will often dump error output there that cannot be written to the system log.

                                  Steve

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                                    A Former User @stephenw10
                                    last edited by

                                    @stephenw10: I've run a short test, but it doesn't show any errors. I'll reinstall to eMMC. I really hope it's the SSD and not a software issue. 😬

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                                      FSC830
                                      last edited by FSC830

                                      My device has no SSD, only eMMC. Hopefully its not the hardware. 😟
                                      Next days I will setup my standby device from scratch and replace this unit when issue occurrs next time.

                                      Regards

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                                      • stephenw10S
                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                        last edited by

                                        I would also consider re-installing 22.01 clean and restoring your config to rule out any issues during the upgrade.

                                        Steve

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                                          gherkin'd
                                          last edited by

                                          My 3100 booted once (if I recall correctly) after the 22.01 update, back in Feb. Since then, I have been forced to set the unit aside. Update completed fine, but afterwards, I cannot access from serial nor Web page.
                                          I've tried to hard reset - via the reset button with no changes. Yet the boot process seems to complete, since the LED panel-indicators seem to proceed in a valid sequence.
                                          I cannot access by any means.
                                          Is there factory services?
                                          I've opened a TAC-Lite ticket and am just surfing around the forum until a reply is received.

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                                          • stephenw10S
                                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                            last edited by

                                            You should be able to see the boot output from uboot at the serial console even if there is no OS installed so I would concentrate your efforts on getting that working. Once you can see the console it will probably be obvious what is preventing you connect to the webgui.
                                            https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/solutions/sg-3100/connect-to-console.html

                                            Steve

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