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      turbotater19
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      I pasted my code in and initially it didn't work. Took out the leading spaces on each line and that fixed it, working as I'd hoped!

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        Overlord @Gertjan
        last edited by

        @gertjan
        I can't find it? Is it removed?

        I'm trying to find a solution to unblock an IP, which is one of my blocklist as false positive.

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          Gertjan @Overlord
          last edited by

          @overlord said in Bypassing DNSBL for specific IPs:

          I can't find it?

          Find what ?
          The initial - see above - is "how to bypass a specific IP".
          Reading the post shows that @Ns8h wanted to exclude a LAN device from being DNSBL'ed by pfBlocker - this was in 2018.

          Or do you man : You want to whitelist an IP ( or DNSBL ?) from a list/feed you use ?
          In that case, go to Firewall > pfBlockerNG > Alerts and look up the line where the IP was blocked. Example :

          d3516bfc-b8f8-46c1-a837-4d0b86ee487d-image.png

          if I want to unblock "8.8.8.8" blocked by the firewall rule pfB_DoH_IP_v4 (uses an alais that contains all the IPs from the TheGreatWall_DoH... DNDBL feed, I have to move the mouse to the red padlock, click and follow the instructions.
          This measure is temporary - as stated.

          Clicking on the black + sign is permanent :

          187c8caa-e1a3-4a08-bc9a-0da23e7e5d27-image.png

          Just follow the instructions.

          No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
          Edit : and where are the logs ??

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            shon @Gertjan
            last edited by

            @gertjan said in Bypassing DNSBL for specific IPs:

            Yep, this box should be checked :

            d1778b64-3485-4e55-a19a-7a4844c344aa-image.png

            This did not work for me at all, and neither using custom unbound views. Not sure where else to look.

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            • GertjanG
              Gertjan @shon
              last edited by Gertjan

              @shon

              Just checking "Python Group Policy" does nothing.
              It's stated that "Enable the Python Group Policy functionality to allow certain Local LAN IPs to bypass DNSBL"

              So certain local IPs have to be entered.

              Like :

              cf606677-4183-4cf0-b0f3-c35003981277-image.png

              edit :

              I didn't have any DNSBIl activated, so I activated one.
              This one :

              80951f87-4c4d-4627-b119-1debf62b62ad-image.png

              Take a look at the feed text, and you find the last entry :
              avsvmcloud.com

              On my PC with the IP 192.168.1.2 (on the policy list - see my image above) I could obtain an IP :

              c1567ee7-b0e7-4b30-80c9-b3417a617ea0-image.png

              Or, on another PC using IP 192.168.1.9, I obtained "0.0.0.0" == DNSBL blocked ( I'm not using the build in pfBlockerNG web server, if I was, I would have received 10.10.10.1 ).

              My conclusion : Group policy works.

              I did not test IPv6 here. For IPv4 it worked.

              No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
              Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                shon @Gertjan
                last edited by shon

                @gertjan I added my local IP4 addresses under the group policy as host IP's with no subnet mask range e.g. /32 /24 etc.. I restarted pfsense, unbound, ran , update force, reload and still no dice. I love the way it works but I need to whitelist IP's to get around pfblocker/dnsbl/geoip restrictions I've set already. thanks!

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                  Overlord @Gertjan
                  last edited by Overlord

                  @gertjan
                  As I can see there are no rules under "Deny". I have read there, that this issue could be from the installed version (2.1.4_26). Is this 2x version still in development? Is there a release date for the 3.x devel version? (Devel becomes non devel)

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                    michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @SmokinMoJoe
                    last edited by

                    @smokinmojoe I was literally saying this out loud to myself. This package has been available for quite some time and the fact that this request which is very reasonable and very obvious that is needed is not implemented really hurts my soul.

                    Yes, DNS sinkholing is great. You would think along the way someone would've thought to themselves "Gee, what if there's a user that shouldn't be restricted". Pretty much the follow-up to that thought was "ehh that would never happen. what an unlikely thing to think".

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                    Routing: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                    Switching: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                    Wireless: Unifi, Aruba IAP
                    JNCIP,CCNP Enterprise

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                    • GertjanG
                      Gertjan @michmoor
                      last edited by

                      @michmoor

                      Not implemented ?

                      I just spend looking some time why my DNSBL didn't seem to work. Then I found out out wasn't working for the PC is was using, but it was working, for the PC right next to me.
                      I recalled : I've added the IPv4 and IPv6 of the PC I'm using on the "Python Group Policy" list.

                      Btw : Python Group Policy was added to the "pfBlockerNG-devel 3.1.0_1"", not the ancient 'pfBlockerNG 2.1.4_26'.

                      No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                      Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                        pftdm007
                        last edited by pftdm007

                        Unless there's something wrong in my config, I think I found a bug with bypassing DNSBL with the python feature...

                        For example, that if I add a client to the exclusion list (Python group policy) to bypass DNSBL, almost immediately after, DNSBL starts behaving very weirdly by allowing traffic from the unblocked client as it should, but randomly also from other clients. Sometimes it returns the 1x1 gif thingy, sometimes the webpage with "This website BLABLABLA has been blocked by the Network Administrator!"

                        (Edited this post after more troubleshooting)

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                          Gertjan @pftdm007
                          last edited by

                          @pftdm007

                          Your are using the correct IP addresses ? Like :

                          23e1f1cc-1092-4c31-8157-dd4a7ea450a8-image.png

                          When you change DNSBL settings :
                          Do a force realod all for pfBlocker.
                          Reset for every LAN device the local DNS cache.
                          Windows will need a

                          ipconfig /flushdns
                          

                          @pftdm007 said in Bypassing DNSBL for specific IPs:

                          Sometimes it returns the 1x1 gif thingy, sometimes the webpage with "This website BLABLABLA has been blocked by the Network Administrator!"

                          That what's left over from the DNSBL web server that wants to tell you a page has been blocked.
                          To make a long story short : don't use the DNSBL web server, because (repeat after me) "it is impossible to redirect a https request".

                          Select :

                          8537ec77-60ad-4f88-884a-8f200fe09a7d-image.png

                          No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                          Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                            michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @pftdm007
                            last edited by michmoor

                            @pftdm007 python mode is very iffy. I have found that using unbound custom dns options works way better to exclude hosts or networks from DNSBL where as python mode only allows /32 exclusions which isn’t very scalable at all. I would highly recommend that over python mode.

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                            Routing: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                            Switching: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                            Wireless: Unifi, Aruba IAP
                            JNCIP,CCNP Enterprise

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                              pftdm007 @Gertjan
                              last edited by

                              @gertjan said in Bypassing DNSBL for specific IPs:

                              Your are using the correct IP addresses ?

                              Yes. Client assigned IP's from pfsense's DHCP server.

                              @gertjan said in Bypassing DNSBL for specific IPs:

                              When you change DNSBL settings :
                              Do a force realod all for pfBlocker.
                              Reset for every LAN device the local DNS cache.

                              I do a force reload on ALL (pfb and DNSBL). I usually close all browsers on all machines and retry, I haven't reset the local DNS cache per-se but will try. I only use linux boxes.

                              @gertjan said in Bypassing DNSBL for specific IPs:

                              don't use the DNSBL web server, because (repeat after me) "it is impossible to redirect a https request".

                              Okay I had No Global mode set and changed it to Null Block (logging). lets see if DNSBL is more stable and predictable.

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                                shon @Gertjan
                                last edited by

                                @gertjan

                                Just following up on this -- (Thanks for your help!)

                                The Python Group Policy action works for whitelisting any clients, per host address e.g. 192.168.1.100 that we do not want DNSBL to filter.

                                However I have another problem, sort of in the same neighborhood.

                                I am using GeoIP as well using a domain name white list alias (domain a/s lookup enabled) that I created called "domain_whitelist_v4"

                                This is the alias URL in the fw:

                                https://127.0.0.1:443/pfblockerng/pfblockerng.php?pfb=pfB_domain_whitelist_v4

                                I'm trying to use the same GeoIP alias file " domain_whitelist_v4" in a DNSBL Group Feed source definition to not take action/block on.

                                The URL I set of the DNSBL group feed source definition is https://127.0.0.1:443/pfblockerng/pfblockerng.php?pfb=pfB_domain_whitelist_v4.txt

                                I have the action set to "Disabled" instead of Unbound.

                                I figure that If I update the GeoIP alias "domain_whitelist_v4" section, that I do not have to then also update the DNSBL Whitelist section too since their (DNSBL & GeoIP) are both referencing the same domain name list (domain_whitelist_v4). Instead I have to update in 2 places for domain reachability sometimes depending if its also being blocked via GeoIP

                                Ideally, I don't want to remove all filtering for some clients, but instead I'd like to update one alias file that covers both DNSBL (permit) and GeoIP (permit)

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                                  JonathanLee
                                  last edited by JonathanLee

                                  Is there a way to bypass just one url request so it always goes to 8.8.8.8 for example?

                                  imap.gmail.com for example keeps getting saved inside my cache I use strict destination for my outgoing smtp and imap ports everything works except gmail because it uses so many rotating ip addresses.

                                  91b7acb3-d942-4ed2-9410-3e2f1db07d1c-image.png

                                  I have an alias that only allows outbound mail to go to servers we use.

                                  Example outlook, gmail, yahoo, apple mail, and nothing else.

                                  8aac34ab-fb10-4491-bbe9-31a11e636dd2-image.png

                                  Maybe something like???

                                  server: 
                                         access-control-view: imap.gmail.com bypass
                                  view:
                                         name "bypass"
                                         view-first: yes
                                         forward-addr: 8.8.8.8@853????
                                  

                                  The goal is to never check the cache database for this address to just send it up stream so the authoritative server resolves it every time it is requested

                                  You remember a couple of years ago some government offices were hacked because they had any any for outbound mail ports? This is my solution to fix this but gmail makes it difficult it is the only one that you have to refresh to get it to connect in mail applications everything else is fine with timeouts, google must change ip addresses every min or less at times for gmail.

                                  Make sure to upvote

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                                    mcury @JonathanLee
                                    last edited by mcury

                                    @JonathanLee Try this:

                                    forward-zone:
                                            name: "imap.gmail.com"
                                            forward-addr: 8.8.8.8
                                            forward-no-cache: yes
                                    

                                    Didn't test it, so not sure if its going to work.
                                    Got this info from the following link: https://unbound.docs.nlnetlabs.nl/en/latest/manpages/unbound.conf.html

                                    dead on arrival, nowhere to be found.

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                                      JonathanLee @mcury
                                      last edited by JonathanLee

                                      @mcury said in Bypassing DNSBL for specific IPs:

                                      forward-zone:
                                      name: "imap.gmail.com"
                                      forward-addr: 8.8.8.8
                                      forward-no-cache: yes

                                      Thanks, I appreciate your help this also did not work. It came back.

                                      I am trying it like this now before server:

                                      forward-zone:
                                      name: "imap.gmail.com"
                                      forward-addr: 8.8.8.8
                                      forward-no-cache: yes
                                      server:
                                      do-ip4: yes
                                      prefer-ip4: yes
                                      do-ip6: no
                                      prefer-ip6: no
                                      private-address: ::/0
                                      dns64-ignore-aaaa: *.*
                                      do-not-query-address: ::
                                      do-not-query-address: ::1
                                      do-not-query-address: ::/0
                                      
                                      

                                      I hope this works versus after server:

                                      Make sure to upvote

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                                      • JonathanLeeJ
                                        JonathanLee
                                        last edited by JonathanLee

                                        Screenshot 2025-01-17 at 12.44.41.png

                                        That seemed to fix it so now the email system can only send out to gmail and google will tell devices what ip to use each time without it changing gmail was driving me crazy

                                        iMac:~ joanthanlee$ nslookup imap.gmail.com
                                        Server:		192.168.1.1
                                        Address:	192.168.1.1#53
                                        
                                        Non-authoritative answer:
                                        Name:	imap.gmail.com
                                        Address: 142.250.141.108
                                        Name:	imap.gmail.com
                                        Address: 142.250.141.109
                                        
                                        iMac:~ joanthanlee$ nslookup imap.gmail.com
                                        Server:		192.168.1.1
                                        Address:	192.168.1.1#53
                                        
                                        Non-authoritative answer:
                                        Name:	imap.gmail.com
                                        Address: 142.251.2.108
                                        Name:	imap.gmail.com
                                        Address: 142.251.2.109
                                        
                                        iMac:~ joanthanlee$ nslookup imap.gmail.com
                                        Server:		192.168.1.1
                                        Address:	192.168.1.1#53
                                        
                                        Non-authoritative answer:
                                        Name:	imap.gmail.com
                                        Address: 142.251.2.108
                                        Name:	imap.gmail.com
                                        Address: 142.251.2.109
                                        
                                        iMac:~ joanthanlee$ nslookup imap.gmail.com
                                        Server:		192.168.1.1
                                        Address:	192.168.1.1#53
                                        
                                        Non-authoritative answer:
                                        Name:	imap.gmail.com
                                        Address: 142.251.2.109
                                        Name:	imap.gmail.com
                                        Address: 142.251.2.108
                                        
                                        iMac:~ joanthanlee$ nslookup imap.gmail.com
                                        Server:		192.168.1.1
                                        Address:	192.168.1.1#53
                                        
                                        Non-authoritative answer:
                                        Name:	imap.gmail.com
                                        Address: 142.250.141.109
                                        Name:	imap.gmail.com
                                        Address: 142.250.141.108
                                        
                                        iMac:~ joanthanlee$ nslookup imap.gmail.com
                                        Server:		192.168.1.1
                                        Address:	192.168.1.1#53
                                        
                                        Non-authoritative answer:
                                        Name:	imap.gmail.com
                                        Address: 142.250.141.109
                                        Name:	imap.gmail.com
                                        Address: 142.250.141.108
                                        
                                        iMac:~ joanthanlee$ nslookup imap.gmail.com
                                        Server:		192.168.1.1
                                        Address:	192.168.1.1#53
                                        
                                        Non-authoritative answer:
                                        Name:	imap.gmail.com
                                        Address: 142.250.141.109
                                        Name:	imap.gmail.com
                                        Address: 142.250.141.108
                                        
                                        iMac:~ joanthanlee$ nslookup imap.gmail.com
                                        Server:		192.168.1.1
                                        Address:	192.168.1.1#53
                                        
                                        Non-authoritative answer:
                                        Name:	imap.gmail.com
                                        Address: 142.251.2.109
                                        Name:	imap.gmail.com
                                        Address: 142.251.2.108
                                        
                                        iMac:~ joanthanlee$ nslookup imap.gmail.com
                                        Server:		192.168.1.1
                                        Address:	192.168.1.1#53
                                        
                                        Non-authoritative answer:
                                        Name:	imap.gmail.com
                                        Address: 142.250.141.109
                                        Name:	imap.gmail.com
                                        Address: 142.250.141.108
                                        
                                        iMac:~ joanthanlee$ nslookup imap.gmail.com
                                        Server:		192.168.1.1
                                        Address:	192.168.1.1#53
                                        
                                        Non-authoritative answer:
                                        Name:	imap.gmail.com
                                        Address: 142.250.141.109
                                        Name:	imap.gmail.com
                                        Address: 142.250.141.108
                                        
                                        iMac:~ joanthanlee$ nslookup imap.gmail.com
                                        Server:		192.168.1.1
                                        Address:	192.168.1.1#53
                                        
                                        Non-authoritative answer:
                                        Name:	imap.gmail.com
                                        Address: 142.251.2.109
                                        Name:	imap.gmail.com
                                        Address: 142.251.2.108
                                        
                                        iMac:~ joanthanlee$ nslookup imap.gmail.com
                                        Server:		192.168.1.1
                                        Address:	192.168.1.1#53
                                        
                                        Non-authoritative answer:
                                        Name:	imap.gmail.com
                                        Address: 142.250.141.109
                                        Name:	imap.gmail.com
                                        Address: 142.250.141.108
                                        
                                        iMac:~ joanthanlee$ nslookup imap.gmail.com
                                        Server:		192.168.1.1
                                        Address:	192.168.1.1#53
                                        
                                        Non-authoritative answer:
                                        Name:	imap.gmail.com
                                        Address: 142.250.141.108
                                        Name:	imap.gmail.com
                                        Address: 142.250.141.109
                                        
                                        iMac:~ joanthanlee$ nslookup imap.gmail.com
                                        Server:		192.168.1.1
                                        Address:	192.168.1.1#53
                                        
                                        Non-authoritative answer:
                                        Name:	imap.gmail.com
                                        Address: 142.250.141.109
                                        Name:	imap.gmail.com
                                        Address: 142.250.141.108
                                        
                                        iMac:~ joanthanlee$ nslookup imap.gmail.com
                                        Server:		192.168.1.1
                                        Address:	192.168.1.1#53
                                        
                                        Non-authoritative answer:
                                        Name:	imap.gmail.com
                                        Address: 142.250.141.108
                                        Name:	imap.gmail.com
                                        Address: 142.250.141.109
                                        
                                        iMac:~ joanthanlee$ nslookup imap.gmail.com
                                        Server:		192.168.1.1
                                        Address:	192.168.1.1#53
                                        
                                        Non-authoritative answer:
                                        Name:	imap.gmail.com
                                        Address: 142.250.141.109
                                        Name:	imap.gmail.com
                                        Address: 142.250.141.108
                                        
                                        iMac:~ joanthanlee$ nslookup imap.gmail.com
                                        Server:		192.168.1.1
                                        Address:	192.168.1.1#53
                                        
                                        Non-authoritative answer:
                                        Name:	imap.gmail.com
                                        Address: 142.250.141.108
                                        Name:	imap.gmail.com
                                        Address: 142.250.141.109
                                        
                                        iMac:~ joanthanlee$ nslookup imap.gmail.com
                                        Server:		192.168.1.1
                                        Address:	192.168.1.1#53
                                        
                                        Non-authoritative answer:
                                        Name:	imap.gmail.com
                                        Address: 142.250.141.108
                                        Name:	imap.gmail.com
                                        Address: 142.250.141.109
                                        
                                        iMac:~ joanthanlee$ nslookup imap.gmail.com
                                        Server:		192.168.1.1
                                        Address:	192.168.1.1#53
                                        
                                        Non-authoritative answer:
                                        Name:	imap.gmail.com
                                        Address: 142.251.2.109
                                        Name:	imap.gmail.com
                                        Address: 142.251.2.108
                                        
                                        iMac:~ joanthanlee$ nslookup imap.gmail.com
                                        Server:		192.168.1.1
                                        Address:	192.168.1.1#53
                                        
                                        Non-authoritative answer:
                                        Name:	imap.gmail.com
                                        Address: 142.250.141.108
                                        Name:	imap.gmail.com
                                        Address: 142.250.141.109
                                        
                                        iMac:~ joanthanlee$ nslookup imap.gmail.com
                                        Server:		192.168.1.1
                                        Address:	192.168.1.1#53
                                        
                                        Non-authoritative answer:
                                        Name:	imap.gmail.com
                                        Address: 142.251.2.109
                                        Name:	imap.gmail.com
                                        Address: 142.251.2.108
                                        
                                        iMac:~ joanthanlee$ nslookup imap.gmail.com
                                        Server:		192.168.1.1
                                        Address:	192.168.1.1#53
                                        
                                        Non-authoritative answer:
                                        Name:	imap.gmail.com
                                        Address: 142.250.141.108
                                        Name:	imap.gmail.com
                                        Address: 142.250.141.109
                                        
                                        iMac:~ joanthanlee$ nslookup imap.gmail.com
                                        Server:		192.168.1.1
                                        Address:	192.168.1.1#53
                                        
                                        Non-authoritative answer:
                                        Name:	imap.gmail.com
                                        Address: 142.250.141.109
                                        Name:	imap.gmail.com
                                        Address: 142.250.141.108
                                        
                                        iMac:~ joanthanlee$ nslookup imap.gmail.com
                                        Server:		192.168.1.1
                                        Address:	192.168.1.1#53
                                        
                                        Non-authoritative answer:
                                        Name:	imap.gmail.com
                                        Address: 142.251.2.109
                                        Name:	imap.gmail.com
                                        Address: 142.251.2.108
                                        
                                        iMac:~ joanthanlee$ nslookup imap.gmail.com
                                        Server:		192.168.1.1
                                        Address:	192.168.1.1#53
                                        
                                        Non-authoritative answer:
                                        Name:	imap.gmail.com
                                        Address: 142.250.141.108
                                        Name:	imap.gmail.com
                                        Address: 142.250.141.109
                                        
                                        iMac:~ joanthanlee$ nslookup imap.gmail.com
                                        Server:		192.168.1.1
                                        Address:	192.168.1.1#53
                                        
                                        Non-authoritative answer:
                                        Name:	imap.gmail.com
                                        Address: 142.251.2.109
                                        Name:	imap.gmail.com
                                        Address: 142.251.2.108
                                        
                                        iMac:~ joanthanlee$ nslookup imap.gmail.com
                                        Server:		192.168.1.1
                                        Address:	192.168.1.1#53
                                        
                                        Non-authoritative answer:
                                        Name:	imap.gmail.com
                                        Address: 142.250.141.108
                                        Name:	imap.gmail.com
                                        Address: 142.250.141.109
                                        
                                        iMac:~ joanthanlee$ nslookup imap.gmail.com
                                        Server:		192.168.1.1
                                        Address:	192.168.1.1#53
                                        
                                        Non-authoritative answer:
                                        Name:	imap.gmail.com
                                        Address: 142.251.2.108
                                        Name:	imap.gmail.com
                                        Address: 142.251.2.109
                                        

                                        You can now see it change every time before it would cache it and resend it.

                                        UPDATE: It still times out and shows errors like before, I wonder what the issue is with it having the old IP address weird right?

                                        Make sure to upvote

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                                          mcury @JonathanLee
                                          last edited by mcury

                                          @JonathanLee said in Bypassing DNSBL for specific IPs:

                                          UPDATE: It still times out and shows errors like before, I wonder what the issue is with it having the old IP address weird right?

                                          So, as I see it, DNS is not caching anymore, however since you are using an alias with FQDNs, the firewall itself will cache those for 5 minutes (300 seconds).

                                          https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/firewall/aliases.html

                                          Instead of using this method (alias with FQDN), try creating a firewall rule just for imap.gmail.com using AS15169.

                                          2f4bd9ce-50ce-4528-afa7-a8daf81e88d5-image.png

                                          You can do it throuhg pfBlockerNG IP, not through DNSBL.

                                          Edit: Another way would be to create an alias with all the IPs you were able to resolve using the nslookup above.

                                          dead on arrival, nowhere to be found.

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                                            JonathanLee @mcury
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                                            @mcury thanks for the reply I will test this soon and yet you know how it works out.

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