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    • johnpozJ
      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @bingo600
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      @bingo600 said in hacking SSID:

      i would prob look at their new WIFI-6 Series today

      Really disappointed in their current lineup of wifi6 AP to be honest.. 1 gig interfaces - come on.. Should be a 2.5 interface..

      But the 149 for the wifi6 pro is not a bad price point.. But prob just go with their wifi 6 lite at 99$ to be honest.. wifi 6 by no means is not any sort of must have currently.. Other than maybe your phone - or a laptop what support wifi 6.. Sure not any of your iot devices or tv sticks, etc.

      If one of my AP died currently - not really sure what I would replace with... Not a fan of any of their current wifi 6 devices... Might have to look elsewhere if had to replace mine currently..

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      • johnpozJ
        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Aledio
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        @aledio said in hacking SSID:

        It turns out that the neighbor has been hacking my SSID

        And how do you know this exactly?? No offense but have seen users saying their neighbor is hacking them because they see the SSID in their phone list.. Or listed as a neighboring AP, etc.

        Also just because your set as WPA2, what is the psk? It should be strong... Ie some 12+ or even say 20ish what amounts to random characters P@55word is not a good psk for example.

        This would be a good psk ;)

        5pp6ZH@DSccetrWvbhj#

        Your ssid should also be unique, and not just the default linksys for example..

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        • NogBadTheBadN
          NogBadTheBad @johnpoz
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          @johnpoz

          If one of my AP died currently - not really sure what I would replace with... Not a fan of any of their current wifi 6 devices... Might have to look elsewhere if had to replace mine currently..

          I had a play with a couple of Aruba Instant APs 345 ( not the InstantOn one I run at home ) was very impressed with the abillity to use one of the APs as the controller as well as an AP.

          Andy

          1 x Netgate SG-4860 - 3 x Linksys LGS308P - 1 x Aruba InstantOn AP22

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          • johnpozJ
            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @NogBadTheBad
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            @nogbadthebad shoot just looking and the 340 series supports 2.5 and they are only wifi 5 AP...

            Not sure WTF unifi thinking about sticking with gig on their latest wifi 6 models..

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            • bingo600B
              bingo600 @johnpoz
              last edited by bingo600

              @johnpoz
              I don't have a single WiFi-6 device at home.
              Unless my new ATV4 4K (Gen-6) can do it (got it today) it's PDS linked by the way.

              I'm still using the C2702i's i got for $42 a piece, they're still doing fine here. Most of my "static stuff" is on PDS-Cable anyway.

              I didn't even look at the Ubi WiFi-6 specs , just expected them to do as good as with the AC-PRO's ...

              But i agree strange with claiming multi Gbit WiFi and not being able to link it downwards.

              Even the C2702i's have an additional Gbit port for matching the WiFi capacity , if you "really want to" ... ๐Ÿ˜Š

              Edit : Seems like i just got a WiFi-6 device
              https://www.apple.com/apple-tv-4k/specs/

              802.11ax Wiโ€‘Fi 6 with MIMO;
              

              And my only WiFi-6 deivce is on cable ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜€

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                I've yet to see a good use case for .11ax personally. Maybe if you really need much shorter range (at 6GHz), for.... reasons ๐Ÿ˜‰

                But not much you can do with that AP security wise if you can't even flash it OpenWRT.

                You can isolate it from your network in pfSense. Just assume it's compromised.

                Steve

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                • bingo600B
                  bingo600 @Aledio
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                  • johnpozJ
                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @stephenw10
                    last edited by johnpoz

                    @stephenw10 said in hacking SSID:

                    I've yet to see a good use case for .11ax personally

                    I would concur with the "personally" aspect.. AX does allow for more density of clients while providing higher bandwidth to the clients overall.

                    I think where you would see most bang for the buck is in environment where you have a bunch of clients that all support ax.. Say for example work setup where all the wifi devices (phones, tablets, laptops) all can do AX.. The QAM moves to 1024, or can - etc. and OFDMA all huge benefits for network with more clients per AP, etc. And MU-MIMO, etc. etc.. Lets not forget HEW as well..

                    There are for sure many new advantages with wifi 6 to be sure..

                    But in a home setup or a smb - prob not going to get you much. But users can be obsessed with a benchmark that quite often is meaningless - for example My phone now can see 600mbps per sec vs 400mbps when doing a benchmark on my home wifi, when they are checking email and watching some tiktok video's on it - and 50mbps would more than they would ever need, etc. ;)

                    I would love to have a good AX AP to play with for sure - but can not justify it as a "play" thing when I have 1 AX capable devices on my network currently ;) My work iphone 13 heheh.. Hey when I get my new work laptop here shortly - I will have 2 ;)

                    but my work laptop will sit on my desk with a wire - so still really only 1 ax device, hahah

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                      Exactly! Not even close to the device density where the advantages come into play. The number of times I have to transfer a lot of data locally is just insignificant. I can't justify spending the money. Much as I'd like to. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                      • JKnottJ
                        JKnott @Aledio
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                        @aledio said in hacking SSID:

                        tp link TL-WA801ND

                        I have one of those and it has problems because TP-Link doesn't understand VLANs. If you suspect someone has broken WPA2 (do you have proof?), then replace your password with a strong one. I get mine from www.grc.com and use a 63 character random string.
                        I replaced the TP-Link with a Unifi AC-Lite AP, which not only works properly with VLANs, but also supports 5 GHz.

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                        • JKnottJ
                          JKnott @johnpoz
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                          @johnpoz said in hacking SSID:

                          This would be a good psk ;)
                          5pp6ZH@DSccetrWvbhj#

                          I uses ones like this:
                          BTTD7f21Zu1hLx0LwYwthJLUfJFj9rtKX696npf0jHlak8JryFpzGYqFRaLBghC

                          PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                          i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                          UniFi AC-Lite access point

                          I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                          • JKnottJ
                            JKnott @NogBadTheBad
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                            @nogbadthebad said in hacking SSID:

                            I had a play with a couple of Aruba Instant APs 345 ( not the InstantOn one I run at home ) was very impressed with the abillity to use one of the APs as the controller as well as an AP.

                            With Cisco, dumb APs connect to a controller running on a switch.

                            PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                            i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                            UniFi AC-Lite access point

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                            • johnpozJ
                              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @stephenw10
                              last edited by

                              @stephenw10 said in hacking SSID:

                              The number of times I have to transfer a lot of data locally is just insignificant

                              If I was moving significant data locally - I would use a wire ;) heheh even if my laptop supported AX... Sorry while AX is cool and all, and hey speeds are getting pretty impressive to be sure.

                              Not going to beat a wire, my wire can do 2.5.. If my wifi could do 2.5, then my wire would be able to do 10, etc..

                              Wire is always going to trump wireless.. It will always be the right bower, if any Euchre players about ;)

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                                akuma1x @JKnott
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                                @jknott said in hacking SSID:

                                I uses ones like this:
                                BTTD7f21Zu1hLx0LwYwthJLUfJFj9rtKX696npf0jHlak8JryFpzGYqFRaLBghC

                                Oops, not good enough, no symbols... ๐Ÿ˜€

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                                • JKnottJ
                                  JKnott @akuma1x
                                  last edited by

                                  @akuma1x said in hacking SSID:

                                  Oops, not good enough, no symbols...

                                  TfffXxEe;BJ0+Tu'k^(T}/U:s2er5WhC!MC@GHC]Hc(yC}oa<p1mqz5OmCo&z_

                                  PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                                  i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                                  UniFi AC-Lite access point

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                                  • bingo600B
                                    bingo600 @JKnott
                                    last edited by bingo600

                                    @jknott said in hacking SSID:

                                    With Cisco, dumb APs connect to a controller running on a switch.

                                    I didn't want Cisco to decide when my 2702i's should be obsoleted, so i am on Autonomous not Lite/CapWAP.

                                    No biggie for me .... I was using them before "Lite".
                                    And i just have 5 active AP's @home / summerhouse.

                                    I even have an old C1242 doing 54Mb coverage in the garden via an ext antenna (have no C2702E's) , works fine for light browsing & a web-radio.

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                                      MoonKnight @JKnott
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                                      @jknott

                                      I think you are safe for some time ๐Ÿ˜‚

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                                      • bingo600B
                                        bingo600 @MoonKnight
                                        last edited by bingo600

                                        @ciscox
                                        And 10min with (when) enough QBIT's

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                                          SteveITS Galactic Empire @akuma1x
                                          last edited by

                                          @akuma1x said in hacking SSID:

                                          no symbols

                                          Character 47 is nonprintable? Maybe? ๐Ÿ˜‰ While more secure those are definitely harder to manually put into a TV or something without a keyboard or copy/paste. I have a bit of ASCII art as my SSID and found once it's rather annoying to enter manually.

                                          @Aledio per https://www.tp-link.com/us/user-guides/tl-wa801n_v6/chapter-3-customize-your-network#ug-sub-title-5 that model has Wireless MAC Filtering so you can block the MAC address, or as noted if they start changing MACs you can allow just your devices' MACs.

                                          @CiscoX said:

                                          I think you are safe for some time

                                          yes well now he's posted it for us. :)

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                                          • JKnottJ
                                            JKnott @bingo600
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                                            @bingo600 said in hacking SSID:

                                            I didn't want Cisco to decide when my 2702i's should be obsoleted, so i am on Autonomous not Lite/CapWAP

                                            It would be nice if more APs went with a central controller. With 802.11r you still have to disconnect and reconnect as you move between APs. With the Cisco central controller, you connect to it, instead of the APs, which become little more than bridges.

                                            PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                                            i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                                            UniFi AC-Lite access point

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