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Hardware recommendations for 40gb internet, 100gb lan

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    mercer2
    last edited by Apr 19, 2022, 4:29 AM

    Hi

    I’m extremely lucky to have a 40gb internet fiber installed in my house, this should be completed within a month. I also have a 100gb internal core switch.

    What hardware do you guys recommend for this. I know this is way over the top, and greatly underused. I’m a typical user, but my hobby is home automation and homelab

    I would like to hit a Speedtest alternative service and get the full 40gb, with a chance to maybe upgrade to 100gb internet in the future.
    Thank you!

    Here is a pic of my home setup.alt text

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      netblues
      last edited by Apr 19, 2022, 5:47 AM

      Well, since this is a typical home setup, I would recommend looking at the tnsr router solution as a starting point.

      Out of curiosity, how many pages do you usually print at the copier seen at the background?

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        Patch @mercer2
        last edited by Apr 19, 2022, 5:54 AM

        @mercer2 said in Hardware recommendations for 40gb internet, 100gb lan:

        What hardware do you guys recommend for this. …
        I would like to hit a Speedtest alternative service and get the full 40gb, with a chance to maybe upgrade to 100gb internet in the future.

        If you really want to saturate a 40gb to 100gb link you may need TSR not pfsense
        See pfsense performance
        TNSR performance

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          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
          last edited by Apr 19, 2022, 12:02 PM

          Yup, pretty much that. ^

          There is no hardware I'm aware of that will pass 40Gbps with pfSense. We have seen some 'inventive' setups with multiple pfSense boxes in parallel filtering at ~20Gbps but not routing. That's not a supported setup though.

          Steve

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            mercer2 @netblues
            last edited by Apr 19, 2022, 12:36 PM

            @netblues

            Printer is 7 years old, so far 27k pages

            alt text

            https://imgur.com/a/DJgZzNO

            Also here is another showing it more, this printer has the advance finisher with saddle stitching, stapler, folder etc

            alt text

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              mercer2 @Patch
              last edited by Apr 19, 2022, 1:21 PM

              @patch My issue is that im not proficient in linux.

              so would like something easy to setup and monitor.

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                Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate @mercer2
                last edited by Apr 19, 2022, 1:32 PM

                @mercer2 What does the ISP providing the 40Gb service recommend?

                Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                  flat4
                  last edited by Apr 19, 2022, 1:49 PM

                  No help here...

                  However first thing first who provides 40g internet to the home? and second what the hell do you do at home to have a setup like that.

                  I mean what you have there puts my "work" data center to shame.

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                    mercer2 @flat4
                    last edited by Apr 19, 2022, 2:57 PM

                    @flat4 ezeefiber is the isp
                    houston

                    2.- not much is mainly audio (32 zones) and video over ip distribution around the house

                    alt text

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                      flat4 @mercer2
                      last edited by Apr 19, 2022, 3:03 PM

                      @mercer2 ah ok, grew up in H-Town.
                      Still heck of a setup. Like others have said you're in enterprise level hardware.
                      TNSR would be better suited for you speeds.

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                        Cool_Corona
                        last edited by Apr 19, 2022, 3:17 PM

                        Really.... this is nowhere a home setup.

                        Way to much power alone to support that kind of hardware.

                        I just dont get why......

                        If you run LB on ESXi, then enough hosts can do what you need on pfsense.

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                          Patch @mercer2
                          last edited by Patch Apr 19, 2022, 11:13 PM Apr 19, 2022, 10:55 PM

                          @mercer2 said in Hardware recommendations for 40gb internet, 100gb lan:

                          so would like something easy to setup and monitor.

                          A Lan with 40-100Gb capacity sounds generous but possibly useful.

                          To size your Wan, do not use what your ISP can provide and what Speedtest can measure (although at that speed you would probably have to run multiple concurrently).

                          Instead look at how many concurrent video channels you will want to access remotely. Or what is the actual high bandwidth concurrent tasks you will actually do.

                          The result of this calculation is likely to be within high end pfsense hardware capacity. If not someone is going to have to manage an enterprise system.

                          If you want it just for fun, then try playing with TNSR

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                            mercer2 @Patch
                            last edited by Apr 19, 2022, 11:36 PM

                            @patch
                            Thank you very much for your answer.

                            This is mostly for fun, and nothing I do needs 1gb, but I love tech so is always fun to push the edge for me.

                            our biggest data use is watching netflix.

                            Still it would be fun to test and play with 40gb bandwidth.

                            all of our neighborhood is getting 10g. so looking for ideas on how to better use such a big amount of capacity.

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                              Patch @mercer2
                              last edited by Patch Apr 20, 2022, 2:53 AM Apr 20, 2022, 2:38 AM

                              @mercer2
                              Sounds reasonable to me.

                              If it was me I would get hardware of at least Netgate 6100 level performance (but you may want a Netgate 1537 or equivalent) and load pfsense on it and get that running.

                              I assume you also have a hardware failure continuity plan, which involves having access to backup router hardware. After checking you can load pfsense and your configuration on it, load TNSR and experiment with it.

                              If you get board with TNSR then set up the two routers in a HA configuration.

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                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                last edited by Apr 20, 2022, 11:52 AM

                                You basically need something about as fast as you can get! And obviously it will need to have 40G NICs. But it still won't pass 40Gbps with pfSense. You would need to be running TNSR to actually get there.

                                Steve

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                                  luckman212 LAYER 8 @stephenw10
                                  last edited by Apr 21, 2022, 6:28 PM

                                  @mercer2 your IT room is about the size of my entire NYC apartment. How did you accumulate so much hardware?

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                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @luckman212
                                    last edited by Apr 21, 2022, 6:58 PM

                                    @luckman212 said in Hardware recommendations for 40gb internet, 100gb lan:

                                    your IT room is about the size of my entire NYC apartment.

                                    Ha. Yup could fit some bunks in there and put it on AirBnB!

                                    The power consumption would drain my experimenting fund in a few days I suspect. 😉

                                    Steve

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                                      mercer2
                                      last edited by Apr 21, 2022, 7:07 PM

                                      it is kind of crazy, our house is 15k sqft, with 30 tons of ac. our electrical service panel is 1200amps and this 3 racks have 7 x 30 amps dedicated circuits plus a dedicated 2 ton ducted ac.

                                      any recommendations on hardware components for a pfsense capable that also could be migrated to tnsr and snort?

                                      thanks

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                                        flat4 @mercer2
                                        last edited by Apr 21, 2022, 7:19 PM

                                        @mercer2
                                        Sir what do you do for a living?
                                        15k House, 30 tons of ac,
                                        going to assume that's in a basement?

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                                          luckman212 LAYER 8 @mercer2
                                          last edited by Apr 21, 2022, 7:29 PM

                                          @mercer2 said in Hardware recommendations for 40gb internet, 100gb lan:

                                          any recommendations on hardware components

                                          uh yeah this should fit nicely in your 15k sqft home: PA-7080 (and will only set you back $170K) 😳

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